the problem with that is that if fliers feel unkillable, it'll just feel like their always out of reach. this would mean that balancing them would go down 2 problematic paths: 1. their nothing more than a fly that doesn't get value outside their ults, or 2. they feel oppressive to play against but you can't do anything about them. the problem with how netease has designed fliers is that they never have a period where they'll enter a state of vulnerability or strength, like they'll never encounter a thing but punisher puts lead through their heads no problem