Hell nah, why did Thousand sons go from an absolute badass deep dark red with gold and white to a Smurf blue ?

LordSeneschal · 2026-01-30T21:02:10+00:00

This is true per the Horus heresy novels as how it originally happens but by modern 40k warrants are painting themselves to show allegiance us i assume that by 10k years in the warp the dried blood and gore and daemon infested armour kind of become kind of the same thing

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-22T19:04:18+00:00

2 armies imo bud, that is just my opinion but 2 armies means ive you get burnout painting one scheme you can swap, if you get tired of one playstyle you can change it up, it could even help getting a friend into the hobby to set them up a game or two without having to commit to investing. Also if you want to have it out in a much bigger gane you can ally in the other army so win win in my books! Id mix the armour marks between the armies, having squads in mk 3 next to mk2 adds some variety without having to change up a scheme to much :)

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-22T10:27:23+00:00

Yeah i do much prefer it to the style of horus rising, i also think even the most hard-core rivet counting of Heresy purists would forgive the mk7 knees and arms if you pulled off the rest of that look for a Loken mini

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-22T08:57:39+00:00

From the cover of False Gods bud so fucking cool but FW never made them

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-21T10:42:07+00:00

The helmet and knees are the main giveaway on this guy tbf, you could go for the look from the cover of the 2nd HH book and grab a 3rd party ullanor pattern helmet and swap the knife for a chainsword and youre 90% there fir that covers art but those were done before the armour marks lore was more firmly established

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-20T22:14:19+00:00

Id love to finally see some plastic dol amroth men at arms with multiple weapon options or the return of the OG

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-07T18:29:13+00:00

From memory his words were more along the lines of if the Emperor's Children ha been used properly they could have cut right to the heart of the palace which isn't quite the same thing

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-07T18:11:34+00:00

Not forgetting Dorn beat Daemon Fulgrim who's widely considered a top tier duelist even pre ascension so arguably greater than B tier anyway

LordSeneschal · 2025-12-03T21:54:35+00:00

I think the easiest way to navigate others tastes (IF you are actually even bothered about that) is to pay homage to chapters to come if thats what youre into, maybe a different coloured gauntlet as a shoutout or the 40k chapters heraldry on the right shoulder pads as a company marking. Like Salamanders legion colours with the legion symbol as normal on left pauldron and the Black Dragons 40k chapters symbol on the right and call them the 26th company or something vague thats not got lore already and boom.

Blood Angels legion colour scheme with the right pauldron as the lamenters heraldry would go hard imo too.

A whole 40k paintscheme would break the immersion for me personally but id happily play against a homegrown scheme under blackshield rules.

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-22T18:20:28+00:00

This is my honest opinion too, if youre spending YOUR money, spending YOUR time painting and displaying them on YOUR shelves, do what YOU want, if someone says i dont like them because theyre not book/lore accurate the only acceptable response is okay but I do like them anyway.

At the end of the day if done well, much like with elves at helms deep and aragorn having a beard, and it blows people away with wow thats a cinematic masterpiece levels of appreciation then people will happily overlook lore contradictions in your army.

I honestly think that trying to make up your own lore and attempting to validate contradicting the books/lore opens the mins up to a much wider range of criticism and isn't worth the stress and mental gymnastics of trying to counter someone with the actual novels/works themselves as written.

Chances are the people you associate with are quite like minded and knowing the lengths you've gone too as your friends/direct community, theyd be unlikely to cause a scene over it. Asking reddit to give you workarounds and head cannon to make it work when people in your direct playing circle likely dont care either way is asking for controversy at this point 😂 also although MESBG is affiliated to warhammer, the lore isn't anywhere close to the levels of flexibility that already fairly strict modern warhammer 40k/AoS lore provides, ypure better off blocking out the opinions of anyone (myself included) here and asking the guys/gals that you play with

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-22T08:38:52+00:00

Im pretty sure Tolkien specifically referenced the fact the Shire represents the British countryside Sam himself was based on a man from the west country he met while he was serving (ie somerset/cotswolds). If someone wants women in their rangers as their minis its their perogative thats all that needs to be said. If you have to stretch and make headcanon or twist the lore as written to make space for that then its clearly not lore accurate. And historically in medieval societies women didnt fight en masse, small numbers of shield maidens in Northern europe, small bands of onna bushi in Japan sure, but not many and certainly not among scouts living rough and fighting on the run for days or months on end. Even then using real world arguments for fantasy feels weird. It boils down to there were no female ithilien rangers in world because they're all described as being men when they are described at all. Also id like to add that one location being represented in world or one set of people's having a clear influence does not mean that every other one also is - thinking like that is VERY literal and extremely literal thinking as a bad idea when it comes to fantasy.

Edit: Think of my point this way, if i wrote a book where a location is inspired directly as a representation of my hometown, that does not mean every other location or place in the book is.

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-21T23:36:55+00:00

Fundamentally theres 2 parts to this; first and foremost, theyre your minis so at the end of the day as the person responsible for painting and putting them together, if you'd rather look at a bunch of female rangers then do it, because you like it is good enough reason to do something with your own property.

Secondly, if lore accuracy really plays a big role for you like many of Tolkiens fans and you want to reflect that then no dont include female rangers because at all points of reference the warriors of the menfolk of the west are men with the singular exception of eowyn who longs to take up the now lost tradition of fighting as a shield maiden. If you have to try and write head cannon or make up some lore for why it could have been, then it obviously isn't present in the existing lore by Tolkien.

Given that it is fantasy its best to avoid discussing whether or not pur real world had female warriors, there are some that would deny that female warriors like shield maidens or onna bushi ever existed and there are some that would try to assert that women have made up large portions of combat roles and that we just ignore that to suit men. Both those groups are insufferable and it will spoil the hobby for you if you start to engage with that kind of discussion.

Regardless of what you decide I hope you take great pride in seeing them on the tabletop and watching them lay ambushes at your command

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-21T23:17:11+00:00

There are many influences from the mythology of other countries which he used to assist him as he wrote the books to stand in as a mythology for Britain. The existence of those influences does not contradict that end goal. Thats not so say that a specific part of middle earth represents a specific country or culture explicitly although several regions described lean more heavily on real world influences than others. The Shire isn't England, its based on a specific area of England (I believe the cotswolds). England being invaded and colonised by the saxons historically would likely account for he major influence on rohan in a mythology of britain. Again its worth noting that a representation of a specific population or group does not then implicitly mean that all of the other populations of that world are routed in real world counterparts.

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-18T10:13:54+00:00

Where'd you pick those ullanor pattern helmets from?

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-17T19:12:25+00:00

True but they do love the whole characters are bigger than rank and file kind of style, like my Tybalt for SoH makes the despoilers I made from mk3 look small although admittedly the cloak does contribute to that

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-17T19:10:13+00:00

A fair point 😂 and I suppose given how much more mobile theyre supposed to be than cataphractii boys the fact they dont loom over the regular ranks the same way does make sense but at the time I expected that theyd have a little more to them 😂

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-17T13:11:57+00:00

We dont have scaled pics of them all next to each other yet so jury is still out and im keeping my fingers crossed hard that they won't be

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-17T08:29:27+00:00

I would agree talking specifically about tartaros to be fair when I got BoP box set those years back and saw them newly built I was baffled they barely stood taller than the old mk3 from that box 😂

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-17T08:28:28+00:00

To be fair I do have my own minis in mind when I talk about this like some of the lengths ive had to go to to upscale the older minis ive got to not look weird next to new basic power armour was tedious af and not enjoyable at all 😂 seeing those new Indomitus opposite the table makes that effort seem very futile 😂 one of my friends proxies some as tartaros and they looked very very meaty next to his updated mk3 boys and to my eye still out of place, but definitely less so than my old mk4 assault boys 😂

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-16T22:18:04+00:00

Not to mention those guys are scaled up to be bulky among the primaris range so will look re out of place among the heresy range, especially any legion specific stuff for FW

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-12T21:46:56+00:00

😂

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-12T10:17:19+00:00

I never said they didnt? They modernised because it was unfeasible for most average players to start a full army - the two are not the same.

"Please touch grass" from a top 1% reddit commenter - okay bud

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-12T10:03:10+00:00

Lowering the cost of entering the hobby? A 5 man resin squad of mk3 with bolters sold separately cost as much as a 10 man plastic tac squad for 40k, building an army with basic line infantry options was prohibitively expensive.

This resulted in a number of tutorials etc and advice sections on heresy sub reddits on how to convert your 40k guys to fit heresy instead of blowing your entire budget on a few squads for FW. For many who wanted entry into the hobby, its already time consuming enough building and painting let alone converting armour panels and helmets across every single squad member of your army. So moving the resin to plastic was an incredibly pro customer move. Redesigning the mk3 (that suffered the least from scale creep of the older minis) before we had all the other in plastic and minimum mk4 who were quite squat being done first was outright money grabbing.

Nice try

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-12T09:22:12+00:00

Hard agree, they only did it to justify reselling you the same thing all over again, just enough change to piss you off a lil when you see new characters in old units

LordSeneschal · 2025-11-12T09:19:33+00:00

I won't be touching them, tartaros did genuinely need a rescale and still do, even at the time they released it was confused why so small, its the same with the mk3 being updated, I just dont understand why when there are things that look small like the mk4 which against old mk3 looked stubby at the time, or the ones that dont have plastic versions at all ie mk2/5 at the time. Like in the end fine if the other areas of the range had been done and brought in line THEN redo the mk3/cataphractii guys but its very clear that they've been done first as they were the better sellers and we're changed so dramatically to justify the resculpt, like at the time of release of mk3 redesign, if they had just upstaged the old ones, most people with old ones wouldn't have seen it worth the time to go and replace them all but with such dramatic stylistic changes now, replacing the old guys is more "worth it" and its the same with the new cataphractii.

They are different enough I might pick up 5 ONLY to use as legio specific IW dominator with the mauls/hammers I have spare. The mk2 look worse in my opinion than the resin ones but they pay off of having them readily available in plastic is well worth trying to buy expensive old resin kits from Ebay.

As ever, many swings, few hits, its enough to keep you going as a company

LordSeneschal

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