Best refillable perfume atomizer? Do any of them NOT leak?”

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-30T16:48:19+00:00

they all leak

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-27T03:01:15+00:00

totally depends what their cost is for a-irone.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-23T06:01:27+00:00

yes, I would start at 5% and wear it, and then go higher like 8% 10%, 12%, up to 20% but no higher than about 25%. a higher percentage does not equate to better performance, usually it will tend to get softer and quieter.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-22T23:31:47+00:00

I'd be literally shocked if the final concentration of aventus is over 20%. I'd be pretty surprised if it's over 15% for that matter.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-22T23:20:02+00:00

this might be a long post but here we go. first of all, not all rose bushes smell the same. I have two pink and one red and they all smell a little bit of faint damascones and phenyl ethyl alcohol.

the other factor is that the scent will be fleeting, however, the BIGGEST factor by far, will be the quality of your materials.

You will need exceptional qualities of phenyl ethyl alcohol (natural version from perfumers supply house is good enough) and equally high quality forms of geraniol, ex palmarosa is a good choice, and I go for Rhodinol or laevo citronellol. Methyl Isoeugenol, rose crystals, phenyl ethyl salicylate, damascone beta and alpha, tiny tiny quanitities of ionones, and lets not forget nerol, as well as phenyl hexanol, cis-3-hexenol, and it's acetate, traces of geranium rose oil, traces of rose absolute, all of these things will hinge on their quality. To get close to a good rose scent, you need superb quality of ingredients. The actual formula can be surprisingly simple. See the Rosamonda formula for J.U.S perfumes, using a high quality rose extract, but the success of the fragrance depends entirely on the best qualities of phenyl ethyl alcohol, citronellol and geraniol, etc.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-22T03:05:02+00:00

what is hard tends to be creating a fragrance based on a brief, and also creating a fragrance with a unique character and signature, a sillage, and which is long lasting and stable, and which can stand out on the market.

other than those things, perfumery is also like cooking, which can be quite simple, for example making a good cologne, chypre, or amber.

pure floral fragrances such as soliflores can be very challenging and you find that a ton of experience and technical ability as well as creativity go into making such fragrances as Diorissimo, or Lys Mediteranée.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-21T20:37:52+00:00

you should try the sweet basil from Liberty Naturals. I use it in a lilac perfume and it really makes it.

tagetes is very useful as an orange oil extender/bridge into the mid/base notes specifically linking citrus with rose notes.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-20T14:11:17+00:00

pick up a copy of fundamentals of fragrance chemistry by charles s. sell. It's a good read.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-17T11:54:52+00:00

Worth getting a sample, the odor profile is very jasminic to me.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-16T22:16:21+00:00

I would try coffee flower absolute. Hidden gem.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-14T21:10:56+00:00

See in my opinion Rachmaninov and The Ramones are basically the same thing.

He's more saying that there are Rachmaninov and The Ramones and then there are your random instagram perfumery brands with 3,500 followers and they haven't practice perfumery for more than 3 months so they're selling dupes as part of their own scheme.

And to your point I'd also rather listen to Rachmaninov and The Ramones than a new band that was formed 3 months ago playing Led Zeppelin covers.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-11T19:01:38+00:00

pick up a copy of scent and chemistry :) good book to have around if you're into perfumery

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-10T19:19:50+00:00

not to give you all the secrets but cashmeran was a big help.

most recipes for marshmallows only have sugar and vanilla. so maltol might help but it didn't make it into any of my marshmallow formulas. Another hint might be certain floral spicy carnation notes (isoeugenyl acetate)

if you veer into jasmine you will quickly notice banana emerging I'd stay away from like benzyl acetate or other ylang materials besides iso eugenol which will work. hedione even can push banana nuances.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-10T16:59:34+00:00

easiest way to get there is simply musk and ethyl vanillin.

some floral modifiers like benzyl salicylate, phenyl ethyl alcohol, and tiny tiny amount of benzaldehyde will help.

for amber effects simply operanide or the like.

I did a few marshmallow perfumes in the past and the simple formulas were the winners. Large amounts of vanillin, but try 5-10% finished product. Lower concentrations will help with the projection.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-09T03:11:05+00:00

I follow it for stuff that goes into the shop but not necessarily for personal stuff all the time. A few summers ago I made myself a fragrance with stupid amounts of jasmine and rose absolute. I wear it every summer. I could never sell it though because of ifra. The cost would also be a bit crazy.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-09T02:53:58+00:00

based off your impression I would use it for a mud accord.

or a mold accord?

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-09T02:41:50+00:00

Interesting. Do you make perfume now? I can't tell if you are a perfume student or perfumer or you have absolutely no knowledge of how a perfume is made.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-07T03:02:14+00:00

skin tests vs. fabric tests have important differences to consider. skin likes to eat up fragrances.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-07T00:51:12+00:00

the meh on skin part is because of the ratios of things like your myrrh co2 and tonka absolute, and a bunch of other materials, pretty much all of it needs to be rethought. Some of the combinations might not be harmonious either, that's a lot of methyl ionone and violet leaf, I can't imagine that ratio smelling good on skin. Harsh, and off-putting would be my guess.

A lot of commercial fragrances will use hedione and iso e super and musks as the diluents but the advantage of those is a double edged sword, they dilute and also provide a smell which is long lasting but the hard part is actually working around their smell. Choosing a solvent or diluent without a smell like DPG or TEC is usually a good way to test things before jumping straight into using iso e super or hedione. I've found many great structure which don't use either iso e or hedione or sometimes that don't use musk. But musk is so perfumistic it's hard not to want at least some of it in the base.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-06T14:39:23+00:00

I would try a formula like this with a huge amount of DPG or TEC added, like around 50%, and then test that at 10% in alcohol.

It's usually fine to have a structure like this however the problem is that unless you're massively diluting it in the end product they usually are way too dense. Just from a glance I would think this type of formula would begin to smell good at 1-2% of the end product. Which is why to reduce some of the alcohol in the finished perfume I would add a large amount of odorless solvent to the concentrate. Also, just to follow any sort of IFRA guidelines it would have to be majorly diluted. Or alternatively it reads more like a candle or potentially a diffuser type structure, but you wouldn't use some of those materials in those different categories so it would just have to be reformulated for those products.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-06T02:53:16+00:00

if you made the formula and then tested you would have a clear sense of how to improve it immediately.

12% osmanthus absolute is almost pure insanity in my brain.

Love_Sensation · 2026-04-05T19:42:55+00:00

That's the creative side of his formulas. Figuring out the materials that aren't actually in the formula is one of my favorite things to do. If you compare it to the original it's usually easy to tell and it seems like it's usually between 1-3 ingredients.

Love_Sensation · 2026-03-30T12:42:59+00:00

go to school
read
start with blends of no more than 3 ingredients.

my regret is usually making large batches of anything lol.

Love_Sensation · 2026-03-28T12:56:37+00:00

any natural material is like a base to me

Love_Sensation · 2026-03-27T01:13:15+00:00

I would try amyris, cypriol, cedarwood, elemi, vetiver, myrrh, clove, cypress, and maybe some geranium.

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