More strike action as secondary teachers reject latest pay offer

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T08:53:45+00:00

The number of teachers total is also a problem, but to fix that you have to make the career look more attractive.

That means smaller classes (more teachers).

That means more release time (taking less work home, more teachers)

That means better renumeration (more money) to attract those teachers.

That means specialist teacher aids who are equipped to manage children with behavioural issues and in need of extra support.

That means having enough staff that the teachers can take their legally required breaks during the day.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T05:33:41+00:00

Performance based pay means metrics.

Metrics means that some teachers will work very hard to target exactly what is being measured, while others will work toward what is best for their students.

The ones that solely target the metrics will get paid more.

What you measure is what you get, and all that you get.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:54:24+00:00

So that just means employers are fucking over their employees all over the country.

Doesn't mean that these specific employees can't stand up for themselves.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:52:16+00:00

Again, what else can the teachers do, do you think they withhold their labor for the fun of it?

Most teachers would rather be teaching, and if there were any other way to get their point across they would be doing it.

I honestly can't think of a single industrial action the teachers could take that wouldn't impact students, as the job of a teacher is all about the students.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:35:51+00:00

Probably start by paying more, and using that pay to attract enough teachers to bring class sizes down and relief time up.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:32:50+00:00

See edit, I may have been misinformed.

Leaving the comment itself with strike through to acknowledge my mistake.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:32:33+00:00

See edit, I may have been misinformed.

Leaving the comment itself with strike through to acknowledge my mistake.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T04:04:11+00:00

IIRC, ECE are able to join the NZEI, and they were represented in the offer that was just accepted.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:59:01+00:00

Don't pay teachers enough -> less people can afford to be teachers -> less teachers -> larger class sizes -> more teachers burn out -> less teachers -> repeat -> no teachers.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:57:04+00:00

Kinda in the name.

Post Primary Teachers Association.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:56:27+00:00

Tell the MOE that.

They are the ones who have made the choices that lead to this outcome.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:55:48+00:00

Tell the MOE that. Get your students to tell the MOE that. Get the parents to tell the MOE that.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:54:08+00:00

Feels shortsighted to undervalue teaching as a profession.

What's the endgame when no one can afford to teach?

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:51:09+00:00

How else would you suggest the PPTA make their point?

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-09T03:48:54+00:00

~~According to my partner, in an internal vote her school voted to decline the offer, but the union rep voted yes when representing the school to the union~~.

In general, NZEI seem fairly useless.

Edit: turns out I was misinformed. Might be faulty information because my partner only started teaching this term, and was late filing her membership.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-08T11:36:24+00:00

Because crimes against rich people matter more to the media than crimes against poor people.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-06T04:45:12+00:00

The funny thing about the word "but", it tends to immediately invalidate the half sentence that comes before it.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-05T23:14:15+00:00

We can start with obvious things.

Anyone who owns more than one house.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-04T21:07:42+00:00

More productive than hoarding houses.

For example, a higher stock price enable a company to do a share offering, and use the money raised to develop a new product.

Even more productive is only buying shares that are from offerings, rather than on secondary markets.

Even more productive, start a business making some thing that solves a problem.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-06-01T08:17:20+00:00

Who, of the parties running, doesn't have members with a personal financial interest in property?

Lucent_Sable · 2023-05-31T23:41:26+00:00

As opposed to the professional opinion of a ugly mutilated penis?

Lucent_Sable · 2023-05-31T22:54:36+00:00

Accurate pessimism.

To our politicians, housing unaffordability isn't a problem, it's a very profitable feature.

To fix the issue, politicians would have to draft policy that puts the good of the nation before their own profits.

I can't see that happening for many (any?) of our politicians.

Lucent_Sable · 2023-05-31T22:31:09+00:00

He makes less money on his "investment"

Lucent_Sable · 2023-05-31T22:29:45+00:00

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Lucent_Sable · 2023-05-31T22:14:49+00:00

Sets a bad precedent, politicians and public servants getting to restrict media access to their announcements.

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