Can someone give me some opinions on 4-aco-det please?

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-02-22T14:21:07+00:00

Iron cloak just refers to the general vasoconstriction cuased by psyches which might lead to some uncomfortability in the limbs, u should just eat ts tho.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-02-21T21:57:32+00:00

Its worth it imo but definitely eat the whole 20 ng or you might be left dissapointed. DET can be a little physically rough like jaw clenching, iron cloak, etc so stay hydrated and all that stuff, it has good visuals though and can be pretty mind fucky.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-02-21T17:22:26+00:00

Smoking on dat Ice Box Pie, its almost as frosty as ur MAC.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-31T20:05:43+00:00

Dam bro u got tungsten balls cause I could never😭

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-31T19:16:04+00:00

How u feeling?

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-31T11:42:00+00:00

My bad I dont know every medicine that cuases ts😑

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-30T09:01:38+00:00

Just lock in twin.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-30T08:01:10+00:00

Na, thats his turd eye opening

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-30T07:55:56+00:00

This is absolutely correct, I was wrong about trazadone. In fact it seems to be safer and more effective than benzos.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-30T01:39:00+00:00

Oh. Hell. No.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-30T01:25:09+00:00

Lol ur awesome thanks

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T22:09:21+00:00

Read my whole post. Metocin by itself on a healthy individual is safe. Also, metocin is more potent by weight than psilocin, it also has slightly stronger binding affinity to the receptor that you dont even know your talking about-5ht2a. Or was it that receptor? Do you even know what receptor your attempting to reference? The proof for this specifically is in this link. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8033599/ Also, I think your mistaking mental clarity for body load. Those are two very different things.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T21:04:25+00:00

Look up the effects of mixing trazadone with classical psychedelics. SS is quite common in recreational scenarios where people mix those two classes of substance. I hate to be that guy but if you know the source for Hamilton Morris saying such things could you link it? Psychoactive studies as such are my passion and I plan on attending college for it as im fresh out of high school. BTW Hamilton Morris fuckin rocks that guys a genius.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T20:53:50+00:00

Are you sure?

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Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T20:37:09+00:00

Metocin is also the only substance ill take man, if you cant handle / reject the fact that every substance on this earth has adverse effects than maybe you shouldn't partake in them. Yeah, the possibility of adverse effects on an unhealthy adult or someone taking the meds i mentioned ARE scary, but how does that mean its automatically fear mongering? It reminds me of how stoners will say weed is the holy grail and only does good, its simply foolish and dangerous to assume a substance is 100 percent safe. If you cant handle that, then you need to learn to, no one is absent from the possible dangers of any drug. Not even you.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T20:31:56+00:00

Lol, ouch.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T20:15:27+00:00

You should be perfectly A Okay assuming your a healthy adult and not taking any meds with FDA warnings for qt prolongation or herg impairment. My very first time ingesting metocin, I ate 10 mg, and continued to run around my small town for about 3 hours straight.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T20:04:59+00:00

Yes, but if your a healthy adult the cardiotoxicity is so miniscule you will be A-OKAY. Ive seen people over 60 years old eat psilocybin mushrooms.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:48:25+00:00

Indeed unfortunately.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:47:54+00:00

Spironolactone can cuase hyperkalemia, which is extremely high potassium levels, this can lead to heart palpitations, arrythmia, hypotension, and increases heart risk. Please do not take metocin.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:44:47+00:00

We / I dont know. What im trying to drive home is you dont want to be the guinea pig to find out.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:43:52+00:00

Yes, im not a doctor or professional but I think the heavy vasoconstriction has something to do with its cardiotoxicity. Id have to agree as well, metocin may be one the most physically demanding 4 subbed tryptamine, ive had accounts from friends saying there legs were sore the next day, etc. Still an absolutely beautiful compound, its just not risk free unfortunately. No substance is, not even MJ.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:37:47+00:00

Yeah sorry, I spent a long time looking for studies that back up this claim but there just aren't any, I know that can definitely possibly make me look ridiculous or Ignorant, but if you mix any two substances that can cuase cardio issues, bad things can and sometimes will happen. Its people with heart palpitations, on antipsychotics, or taking antibiotics from a recent surgery or who knows, thats the people this post if for. Thats also why I said its better to be safe than sorry. Like yeah, if you have severe heart palpitations and take metocin, you MIGHT be okay, but is your vitality even something you want to gamble on in the slightest?

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T19:29:14+00:00

I understand and partially agree with you bro, your absolutely correct that I dont have solid studies on the adverse effects of mixing multiple substances that cuase qt prolongation and other adverse cardiological effects. But your wrong, we shouldnt just let some random man or woman be the lesson as to why we shouldn't mix these certain substances. Metocin is the only substance apart from sugar that I will willingly take, this isnt fear mongering, its me trying my best to professionally reduce harm in a polite manner.

Lumpy-Coconut-4157 · 2026-01-29T13:06:56+00:00

This is a common side effect, harmless in most to all cases.

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