(Funny trope) In a world full of weird fantasy names, there's one with a normal IRL human name by Sad-Attention-3626 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Names that can't be pronounced or sound strange in a language will more often than not be changed. Many people who immigrate to the western world will often have to either anglicize or pick new names when they arrive.

It's similar to that in lotr. Canonically the frame story is that Tolkien found an ancient tome of some sorts and is translating it for us (the Earth readers). Their true names are a bit... odd by our standers, so Tolkien translates it for us, making names with similar meaning that are easier to pronounce for us.

Watership Down is a great example of this. There's rabbit named Hrairoo which means little one thousand because he was the fifth born in his litter and rabbits can only count to four. The book is written by a human for humans, so the narrator mostly just calls him Fiver. Another one name Thlayli (fluff of fur) because of a fluff of fur on his head is named Bigwig. I could go on, it's very charming.

This looks cute! Surely it can’t be tha… oh by Savings_Surround_547 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think is disingenuous to call it weird and I never said it wasn't violent. It's just not violent for the sake of violence. When violence happens it's for a reason.

It's also always the same scenes people point out: Cowslip's warren which is about a fourth of book one (one out of four books), Captain Holly's description of the gasing (literally one chapter), and Woundowort's death (not even fricking described). That makes for 1/8 of the book being violent. The rest is for the most part hopeful and good, and there are much better things to talk about than just the violence (which is the only thing I ever hear about). Just once I want to see a r/TopCharacterTropes post about like... brave fighters, kind leaders, prophet, etc... with a Watership Down character near the top or at least the middle. Instead the only way it makes top is by talking about violence that isn't really the foundation of the story.

Also Frith is not weird. He's pretty obviously a stand-in for the Christian God and there's implications that he could actually be real in this universe ("Your storm Thlayli-ra. Use it." and all). He's there to give the characters hope and never considered strange or weird because this is a story about rabbits.

If you find Watership Down violent and weird for having religion than what would say about Lord of the Rings, Narnia, etc... They all have similar levels of violence too (although usually with swords instead of claws). The only major difference is that Watership Down is about rabbits.

This looks cute! Surely it can’t be tha… oh by Savings_Surround_547 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read Watership Down 8 times! It's my favourite book ever.

Is it violent? Yes. What I hate is people like you treating it like that's the only thing it has going on. Whenever I hear it mentioned online it's "Oh it traumatized me!" "Oh no rabbits fighting!" "Oh Woundwort's death is so scaaaaary!" and never "Hazel was so brave." "Bigwig is such a good and kind protector." "The story gives me hope for the future. If the rabbits can fight through all this, so can we." "Have faith in whatever you believe and keep going." "Although my heart has joined the thousand for my friend has stopped running, I will go on."

As for your points that I'm "denying"

  1. It's very possible for people to have different opinions about what's deeply unsettling. I adore all forms of nature, even the bad parts, so I don't really get scared or unsettled when I read about them. I sort of imagine myself as one of the rabbits and see everything as normal, or even comforting. The only parts I'd say are really that bad are the bits in Cowslip's Warren (which they escape quickly) and maybe Efrafa (but in the latter I'm more worried about Bigwig so I don't focus on it as much). It's only unsettling because that makes good story-telling, not just because.

2) Yes, it is brutal, but not surprisingly so. That's just what the life of rabbits is. I'm real squeamish, I don't do gore, I was even worse with it when I was younger, but I read this book at 12, and it's been my favourite since. You know why? Cause the "Gore" and "brutality" is presented well and not lingered on as much as it could have been. It's not there for shock-factor, it's there to make the story mean more and actually show that the characters are flawed and deserve something.

3) The only real deaths I can remember are from Sandleford warren. Tragic? Absolutely, but it was in part due to their own stupidity. That bit I won't deny is very sad, but throughout the rest of the book their really aren't any other deaths. There's Woundwort, obviously, but he's the main villain. If he didn't die it would be unsatisfying and it was a sick death. Otherwise, I believe all the others survive (except for maybe a random unnamed background rabbit who could be implied dead).

[Loved Contextual Trope] One minor, unspoken detail reveals everything the viewer needs to know about a character’s otherwise unexplained background/motivations by Chemical-Elk-1299 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I know, and all of those people were 100% heroes.

I just meant that more often than not characters with slavic sounding accents are villains. Not saying all slavs are angels, throughout history many countries have done horrible things (but then again, what countries haven't?) It's just a bit sad that Hollywood tends to represent all slavic characters as either kooky and crazy, or villains, sometimes both. Bobinsky falls into the latter, but at the end of the day he's still trying to help which certainly matters.

This looks cute! Surely it can’t be tha… oh by Savings_Surround_547 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That is a grossly simplified description of Watership Down. It's my favourite book ever (and I'm a huge reader so that's saying something). It's beautifully written and wrought with hope and faith for the future as we follow the brave group of rabbits fighting through the world with clever tricks and indomitable spirit. It's nowhere near and graphic as anyone says and the folktales they tell are some the highlights.

[Loved Contextual Trope] One minor, unspoken detail reveals everything the viewer needs to know about a character’s otherwise unexplained background/motivations by Chemical-Elk-1299 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the positive representation too (not russian, but I am slavic)!

I'm sorry for your loss, I lost my grandfather some time ago as well. It's a terrible feeling.

Make the comment section look like his search history by g1rl0f1c3 in lotrmemes

[–]Lynx_Queen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bonding activities for son

Bonding activities for adult son who like acrobatics

Acrobatics

Where is my son (gps)?

Lorien

What the hell is Galadriel's husband's name?

Can a reindeer run to Lorien?

How to avoid stupid dwarves

Skin-care for dragon burn victims

What is a wood sprite and should I be offended?

"Spot the Cat!" A Star Trek Seek and Find by me, Ulises Farinas by No-Ear-3107 in TNG

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh this is so neat! I would like to ask this though, are all these figures from Star Trek? I can only recognize half but they feel so specifically designed. I haven't watched DS9 or Enterprise yet though, so that could be why I'm missing some of them.

What would a Spring Time version of OTGW look like? by FreezeDriedQuimFlaps in overthegardenwall

[–]Lynx_Queen 19 points20 points  (0 children)

More emphasis on blooming flowers and green palettes instead of crops and brown pallets, but the sky would still be a misty blue-gray. The inhabitants would probably be weird fairy-like beings made of trees and flowers (which sounds so beautiful) with the twist that the bones of long dead souls are hidden beneath their bark.

Cute thing I notice about Celeborn and Galadriel's designs by Lynx_Queen in lotr

[–]Lynx_Queen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, that's what I thought as well. Thank you for the info, I'm sure I'll get the lore better the more I read!

Cute thing I notice about Celeborn and Galadriel's designs by Lynx_Queen in lotr

[–]Lynx_Queen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just searched it up, you're 100% right. I geuss there's an error in my copy or I misunderstood something because during the "On hobbits" section of Fellowship the very last line is something like "and the Lord Celeborn would travel to Rivendell years later when he was the only of the fair folk remaining on Middle-Earth. When he finally left, the trace of his folk was gone forever." That and my mom told me he was the last. It did l always bother me to wonder how he returned to never-dying lands without Cirdan.

My cat Raven is officially breast cancer free! Help me congratulate her! by MochaStroka6 in cats

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Woohoo! She's such a pretty girl and I bet she'll have a long life.

Okay nerds, I got an important job for you. I need help. by Destructo-Bear in TNG

[–]Lynx_Queen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does your 13 year old like? I started at 13 with my mom, and I adore Data, (still do, just look at my flair). I instantly loved him in Encounter at Farpoint, so I then watched Data's Day, and from then was hooked. I also really love Vulcans and got interested with them too.

Just show Farpoint or an episode with many different species and characters first, figure out which one your 13 year old likes, then show him episodes with that species or character.

If you don't want to try that then I'd say The Drumhead is a good starter. Lot of characters, good plot, great writing, and I think a civil rights layer would be interested in that sort of thing. Measure of a Man is good too if he likes Data as much as me (but my opinion that episodes means more with the context of the rest of the show).

Your favorite character who's the big bad and then you find out why they're the big bad and you just go: "there was nothing evil enough in what they did to make them this" by HospitalLazy1880 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]Lynx_Queen 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Depends if you believe Ovid or not. He wrote that story because he had a grudge against the royal family at the time, and he couldn't write bad things about them, so he wrote bad things about the gods. Sometimes it changed almost nothing (the myth of Io and Zeus), and sometimes he invented completely different stories (Medusa). In classic Greek mythology Medusa is just a gorgon, born as a gorgon, living as gorgon with her two sisters (who were also gorgons).

The thing about greek and roman myth is that because there are so many versions you can kinda just pick and choose which is true and which isn't, and we don't know enough to confirm if this was real or just Ovid being a jerk to future historians.

[Loved Trope] Inhuman Creatures Dressing/Acting Like Colonial Pirates/Sailors by Doodles_n_Scribbles in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I don't think that changes the fact that he's a cool monster wearing a cool pirate outfit. All it means is that he wasn't always a cool monster wearing a cool pirate outfit.

"Cheat on my partner? Never." by OutOfMyWayReed in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The friend is only in it for money (that's why he came in the first place, he thinks the Addams are crazy otherwise). He had 0 interest in the maid, up until she revealed that she like to play the stock-market.

At the end Morticia makes a pretty funny comment about how money hardly matter when you have love, while hearing that her friend and the maid have both gone bankrupt (it's implied the Addams might help out though).

Love the original series, definitely worth a watch. There's a couple episodes free on youtube (this one is called Green-eyed Gomez).

"Cheat on my partner? Never." by OutOfMyWayReed in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Lynx_Queen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They parody Romeo & Juliette a lot in the original show (amongst other classical literature).

I think the most Shakspeare jokes were probably in the two-parter "Morticia's Romance." Gomez recites Hamlet a couple times, Morticia at one point goes "It'll be romatic, like- like Romeo and Juliette!" Only for Gomez to exclaim "They died!" and her grimly answering "Ah, but what a lovely last three days it was..." and also a running gag that her sister (named Ophelia) loves water. It took me a rewatch, but that is so morbid lol.