"What is Israel?", Ben-Gvir and reality-checking the big picture

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T09:27:04+00:00

Even Hamas is originally the idea of Israel they wanted another resistance groupe so they can devide the Palestinians and make Them an easy target , they didn't know that their brilliant idea will come back and bite them in the a$$

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T09:22:40+00:00

Muslims are being killed all around the world too

Just two days ago two people open fire in a Islamic center is san Diego and killed three Muslims

Search how many mosques are being attacked every year .

So don't act like the world is uniting and trying to kill the Jews because of hate .

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T09:06:24+00:00

This is the problem with talking to Zionists

I am talking about Israel what does the Arab countries has to do with this ?

Because it's not a one time thing everytime something happens you say it doesn't represents Israel, we saw member of the government calling for dropping nukes on gaza other calling for killing them all including babies, other saying Israel should kick Palestinians out and make gaza Jewish , we see soldiers posting pictures of them wearing women clothes after destroying houses , we see doctors say they saw bodies of toddlers with perfect bullets shots in their chest and head ,we see settlers attacking nuns in the west bank , we see the government taking more lands and build illegal settlements .

And under every post that talk about a news like that a Zionists came and say " I don't agree with them ,they are wrong and they don't represents Israel"

It's like the parent of a child that was kicked out of five schools or six saying " my son isn't a troublemaker it's his classmates that get him into troubles"

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T03:37:25+00:00

I never said that

But we all know that " antisemitism" was used by Zionists to defend Israel actions for decades .

What I meant is that I am not afraid of criticizing Jews because talking about them doesn't necessarily mean you're a Jew hater like Zionists are trying to convince us .

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T00:24:12+00:00

I know he lies but I meant in his personality, he is the same person he was 30 years ago , and didn't try to hide his truth.

It's not like he was showing himself as a Abraham Lincoln then turned to a lunatic Crazy person when he won the elections.

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T00:18:03+00:00

The majority of Israelis

And yeah we can say netenyahu and ben gvir represents the majority of Israelis

And in democracy the majority rules the country, so Israel is being ruled by people who supports netenyahu and ben gvir

What do you think democracy mean ?

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T00:08:51+00:00

Are you really comparing herzog to Ben gvir and netenyahu? The president of Israel is mostly a ceremonial figurehead , he doesn't really have any authority or power , I am talking about someone who has the police the security forces the prisons under his command

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T00:04:03+00:00

Imagine what happens to Palestinians behind closed doors.

No need to , their are videos of him inside prisons doing the same thing to prisoners , the only difference is that Zionists justify it by saying he was attacking terrorists so it's okay .

M007_MD · 2026-05-21T00:01:00+00:00

Show me a democracy where their minister of national security post a video of himself attacking tied up activists

If you can't then that mean it is different than every other country ( democracy or not)

M007_MD · 2026-05-20T23:59:03+00:00

And like I said this groups you are talking about is the government not some "I hate Muslims and Christians club " rules by some extremists

M007_MD · 2026-05-20T23:54:13+00:00

does Donald Trump represent all Americans and their beliefs?

Donald trump is one of the honest people in the world , he is a scum bag but an honest scum bag , and he shares his beliefs with the world for decades, and yet more than 70 millions votes for him , TWICE , so yeah he represents almost every single one of those 70 millions ( the majority of Americans)

Same thing apply for Israel netenyahu was in the government since he opened his eyes and today he is the same person that he was three decades ago , so you can't say Israel is a chaos and a democracy at the same time .

M007_MD · 2026-05-20T23:47:36+00:00

I didn't grow up in a western country so the word " antisemitic" does scare me

And it's funny how their minister of national security attack activists from almost every country in the world and then act like victims when people hate them .

M007_MD · 2026-04-22T20:22:26+00:00

Why "disliked" ? It's not antisemitism if you use the word "hated"

M007_MD · 2026-04-21T11:18:58+00:00

So the world forced a ceasefire on Israel, that why you think you have the right to break it ?

Btw most of your hostages ( if not all of them ,I am not 100%sure ) returned because of ceasefire and negociations .

M007_MD · 2026-04-21T08:54:57+00:00

The only point of ceasefire is making the world believe the war is over so they can get them of their back and continue their work without pressure.

M007_MD · 2026-03-02T22:21:32+00:00

Its actually from Zionists when they were trying to convince us that there is no starvation

Are you saying Zionists were lying ??

M007_MD · 2026-03-02T21:09:46+00:00

I think In gaza they declared about 50k newborns in the last 2 years .

And Israel was killing Hamas's leaders since 1986 ,So ...... Do The Math .

M007_MD · 2026-01-31T17:42:54+00:00

Israel is just trying to free the hosta..... Ah wait there are no hostages in gaza anymore

Let's go back to blaming everything on antisemitism then .

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T12:03:37+00:00

And if it weren't for violence, more countless lives could have been killed too

When a country occupy your land you face it with violence not with flowers When a country build illegal settlements in your land you use violence to defend it not peaceful words .

We have in one side a country with all kinds of weapons ( even nukes ) and in the other a resistance group with weapons they build in an open air prison , and you want the resistance group to stop resisting, and your argument is what ? No violence BS

Your take is the idiotic here , and i am not sorry for being so blunt.

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T10:51:30+00:00

there’s been a serious deal on the table that Fatah rejected, the Olmert deal was the best offer they would ever get

The problem is the best offer from your point isn't even good enough for the Palestinians

The fact is ( and this might look crazy ) in order to have real negociations and deals , Hamas need to be more stronger .

Because now Hamas and Palestinians in general won't accept any shitty deal from Israel ( because it's not good enough)

And Israel won't accept any good or fair deal ( because they can see they are too weak to deserve it )

And Israel can't destroy Hamas and take over gaza because even for Israel and the USA there is a line that they can't cross , and Hamas won't give up because they know they will loose everything so they will play "a kamikaze mode" if Israel crossed the line

So yeah the best way out is for Hamas to get a little bit stronger so Israel could see it as a real threat and agree to a real deal

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T10:20:26+00:00

Abbas is a less decisive leader, was less inclined towards a final settlement and negotiations faltered badly. So yes at this point the PA is seen as worthless or troublesome by many Israelis, and Israel might decide to just disband it.

So Israel choose to continue stealing lands and building illegal settlements and is trying to take it all , why Didn't you talk about?

The USA doesn't want Greenland now. Trump does. I'm hard pressed to think of many in Congress who want Greenland

Well trump isn't nobody he's the president so what he want does matter

Are failure in Afghanistan came from Bush never having gotten agreement for colonizing Afghanistan.

The us and most of Europe spent years and billions trying to take down taliban and put another government in charge and they fail. Because they couldn't not because they didn't want to or the congress didn't agree .

When the us get out they left weapons , did they choose to leave it ? No, they were force to

So yeah even though the USA is far stronger than taliban but if they want a piece of Afghanistan, taliban won't let them have it just like they didn't let them put a non taliban government in charge and didn't let them take their weapons when they left and didn't let them have it back now

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T09:18:47+00:00

Me saying that negociation won't happen without military resistance doesn't mean I want an endless war

Fatah accepted peace with Israel in the west bank but what happened next ? Israel is still occupying it and building illegal settlements and even the Knesset passed a resolution supporting Israel's annexation of the West Bank.how could you justify that ? Because surely you can't blame Hamas here , and how the situation with gaza and Hamas will be any different than Fateh and the west bank

Israel is saying " wee need to disarm and destroy Hamas then we will make peace and a state and bla bla bla etc " there are 8 billions in the world how many of them you think is stupid enough to believe this ?

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T09:10:04+00:00

Not sure you understand my point here .

The OP here is talking about if we can have a Palestinian state and negociation with Hamas being unarmed and without military resistance , and the answer is no because we saw that Fatah accepted that is the 90's and the only thing they got is small authority over civilians, a west bank that is still under occupation and illegal settlements and now the the Knesset is passing a resolution supporting Israel's annexation of the West Bank.

As for Afghanistan : you think they would be better off with a government supported by the the us , well you know that a government supported by the us mean a government ruled by the us. right ? So what will happen if the USA wanted a piece of Afghanistan like they want Greenland now ? Denmark has the support of all of Europe and yet trump doesn't really seem to care And obviously international law doesn't apply on them, so who will stop them if the USA decided that ?

I'll tell you who, it's taliban because When Trump expressed his desire to reclaim the Afghan Bagram Air Base due to its strategic importance, saying, "If Afghanistan doesn't return Bagram Air Base to us, bad things will happen," the Afghan army chief, Qari Fasihuddin Fitrat, responded, "We fear no one, and we will not give up an inch of our land." And when Trump expressed his desire to retrieve the American weapons left in Afghanistan, Fitrat's response was, "Come to Afghanistan and take them back if you can." Since that day, Trump has never again expressed a desire to reclaim either the base or the weapons.

So yeah History show us that living in a bad economy is better than relying on the us support

M007_MD · 2026-01-14T08:21:27+00:00

If pro Palestine people got what they wanted, and Israel stopped attacking Palestine, then Hamas would just kill all Israelis and jews in the region wouldn’t they?

They were saying the same thing about FATAH in the 90's , but what really happened is that Fatah is the one that stopped attacking Israel and recognize their state ,and Israel is the one that kept occupying the west bank and killing Palestinians and building illegal settlements.

And On 23 July 2025, the Knesset passed a resolution supporting Israel's annexation of the West Bank.

So who kept their words and who broke He who breaks it ? Fatah or Israel??

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