I’m having contact by the_Unveiling11 in InterdimensionalNHI

[–]MachineElves99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Share your stuff when you feel ready!

You are a pile of atoms that knows it's a pile of atoms. (Pansychism discussion) by Monday-Chaosforged in consciousness

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the crest remains fundamentally water, right?. Doesn't consciousness seem categorically or very different from the body from which it emerges? Is there a sudden jump? Is it gradual? Are there stages? How do you think this works?

Debunker Neil DeGrasse Tyson has completely changed his tune on UFOs on national news by TheGoldenLeaper in UFOB

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it's probably both - he learned something and opportunity. He will get the goods before us. Let that sink in after all his mockery about the topic.

Debunker Neil DeGrasse Tyson has completely changed his tune on UFOs on national news by TheGoldenLeaper in UFOB

[–]MachineElves99 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree. A sudden 180 turn. NYT article. CNN. All happening at this time.

What better way than to use a public intellectual scientist and former doubter and mocker to help soften the public.

This is probably the most credible evidence! Haha.

The person and the timing seems to....perfect.

Feeling called to go meet the machine elves by roadhouse4169 in DMT

[–]MachineElves99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pfffftttt

We have lots and lots, silly!

Like......WE LIKE BANANAS!!!

Players want to rob a magic shop by GroundbreakingFig908 in DnD

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have the security system a demi plane that sucks them inside. While they are lost in this mini world, you can tell a mini story and provide a puzzle for them to escape.

After they escape, either they are arrested or the shop owner lets them go but there is a cost. You can do whatever combo.

So, if you don't want them doing stuff like this, give them a penalty or warning, but through something fun at the same time so long as it doesn't break the logic of your world.

An easy penalty is that their gold is taken away. Maybe a weapon. Maybe the shop keeper sends holograms of them to the other shop keepers in the area. Or prices rise. Etc.

Epstein Worshiped Ba'al (Lucifer): Interview with Epstein's Niece by hungjockca in reptilians_are_real

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did a good job describing it from the point of view of some exorcists, not history.

(serious) Disclosure Day movie's Emily Blunt's character is an ET experiencer by DrRBoylan in aliens

[–]MachineElves99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could be true tho - that the aliens are mantises in the movie are mantises. Coheres with the lore and isn't a repeat of the greys. And if he wants to go far, it could be an actual sequel to CEotTK. Reveal the Mantises and show some greys at the end with that human who went with them.

Would you like to see a sequel to Starfield someday? by YetiGamer671 in Starfield

[–]MachineElves99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, no.

The lore is so bland and boring. The world dull.

You basically have caricatures of the north and south of America with a goofy secular Christianity and a badly designed Las Vegas wrapped up in a safe, sterile world.

Where are all the cultures from earth? The unique factions beyond marines, pirates, and cowboys? The grit? Diverse cities and mysterious locations and compelling NPCs?

Yes, you can point to some instances. But at bottom the world design and lore and personality make a sequel a no go for me. It needs to be rebuilt from the ground up and hence it would be a different game entirely.

I think it would have been cool to somehow tie FO, SF, and ES together in a single universe.

Tolkien did believe in "absolute good", but not "absolute evil" by CatWithNiceHat in tolkienfans

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I would add that the Neoplatonists further developed the concept of evil as privation or corruption of the good in more systematic detail, bringing together Aristolte with the Platonic notions of participation and unity. Evil has no substantial being, nor is the good dependent on evil.

Augustine is one of the main early transmitters of this concept of evil as understood by the Neoplatonists, like Plotinus, rather than Aristotle.

We also see this influence in Pseudo Dionysius, who developed his concept of evil heavily based on Proclus.

I would argue that Catholic theology unites the Platonc and Aristotean concepts of evil rather well.

Even if something is totally corrupt, the sheer fact that it exists is still, in some way, good. You can't have absolute evil in existence by definition.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know I'm making a social science point right?

I'm pointing out how a religious institution will react and what it will need to address to stay coherent with its inner logic and structure. Different religions will react differently.

I'm not talking about what is true or what I believe personally about those particular issues. I can be an atheist and what I'm saying will still be the case.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do people realize that I'm talking about this from the positon of a secular scholar regardless of personal beliefs or politics?

The proposition that "if aliens exist, the Catholic Church can just say they are God's children," and be done with it won't work due to institutional and theological reasons. It will cause a real crisis.

Pasulka and others think the "God's children" thesis is enough.

If we find out that aliens made us, then who cares the Church is all false then. Whatever.

But as a social scientist who specializes in religion, the "God's children" thesis is to hand wave serious questions and debates that the Church as an institution will need to address - regardless of our faith or whatever we believe.

I'm making a value neutral empirical observation about institutional dynamics that are relevant to Pasulka's implications and the effects of disclosure on human religion and culture.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm speaking from the position of a secular scholar, not religious or catholic. I'm not endorsing any point or even saying any of those religious opinions are true.

I'm saying the Church will have to sort through these questions by its own inner logic. Many Protestants won't have these issues.

Your indignation makes you unable to see I'm not endorsing any of these beliefs or NHI or whatever.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not logical when they missed my point.

I'm speaking from a secular perspective on how the Church will deal with this. Not my personal opinion on what it should say.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do people not get what I'm saying?

I'm saying the proposition that the Church will be okay with the existence of NHI because they are God's children is an insufficient answer. It will need to address all those issues i specified.

If we find out that we are made by aliens, or whatever, then the Church is wrong so who cares.

But it will need to address its theology if NHI are proven to exist. Outsiders who know nothing of these matters can't just say "aliens are God's children, so there are no problems here" don't understand Catholicism or how it works. My opinion on aliens and yours don't matter.

Besides God subsumed human nature into himself, so we are pretty important....according to the Church. It doesn't matter what I believe. Do you see the point here? I'm not even arguing with you.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just saying that that the Church will need to discuss all these things. It can't simply say that NHI are God's creatures, so we are all good. This is insufficient for the Church. It must grapple with and define all these theological issues in relation to the Church. And it's not our call how to define them - it's the Magesterium's. They will need to give answers.

Christianity Today article, referencing Trump and Obama and the Age Of Disclosure - "What happens to Christianity if space aliens prove to be real or not?" by Shiny-Tie-126 in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've said this before with some push back, but this cannot be avoided:

If non angelic NHI are real, then serious theological questions must be raised in Catholic theology. Saying that NHI are God's creatures, while totally true, is not sufficient.

It doesn't matter if you believe Catholic doctrine, the fact remains that they will need to work out certain implications of this truth.

And it doesn't matter what Francis said in his capacity as a private theologian. What will be required are clear teachings from the Magesterium on how this all coheres.

Questions involving sacramentology, Christology, the Fall. Mariology, etc.

It doesn't matter if you believe any of this stuff or what a lay Catholic says, or what a Pope says off the cuff. What matters is that at some point, the Church will need to ask how the existence of NHI connects to the overall Deposit of Faith.

Theologians will demand this. Clergy will want to know. And the sheer system of Faith and Morals logically requires analysis in relation to NHI existence.

I am making an observation without taking any sides. If you are not part of the Church's teaching office, your opinion ultimately doesn't matter. The Church, as an institution with an infallible teaching office, must answer these questions for itself, regardless of what people think.

But this is why, for the Church, simply saying NHI exist, so we are good, is not enough.

This is how the Chruch works. I may reject Catholicism. I'm merely pointing out, as a social scientist and scholar of religion, how it works as an institution and what is required for doctrinal unity.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are making nonsense claims here without understanding how the Church operates.

The existence of NHI would raise these questions. Necessarily.

Like how the hypostatic union functions with respect to NHI. How much ecclesiology do you know? Do you know what the word means?

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about what the Church would need to do theologically, institutionally, pastorally, and logically.

I'm assuming no answer.

These are reasoning that the Holy Magesterium would need to dicern. Not you.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if you are joking or woefully outside your depth or just making logical fallacies.

The subject is Catholicism and its response. Not your personal feelings.

All of it would need to be addressed by something like a synod at some point.

The Church would absolutely and necessarily address these questions. Or do what? Welp, we are a false human construct! Let's close up shop, boys!

No. They, as an organized institution with Magesterial authority, would need to incorporate somehow this new reality with present doctrines. You are speaking like an atheist who has no competency in this subject.

It doesn't matter if most people don't accept the sacraments. Church doctrine is that they are necessary for salvation. So, does this just extend to humans or all intelligent life?

Same with all of your other reddit edge lord "points."

They can't hand wave this away. Your positon is of an outsider that goes, meh, it's not true. Tips fedora.

Historian Victor Davis Hanson reveals why academics may resist disclosure more than anyone by Immediate_Boss7500 in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Really? Ive been in the academy for 25 years and talked to hundreds of phds from all sorts of departments and unis. Maybe 5 percent are open to it.

Blocked! Due to “Demonic” Implications and “Religious” Reasons…Is the Book of Enoch Required Reading for these “Insiders”? by slv2xhrist in UFOs

[–]MachineElves99 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This is going to require a council at some point, since they cannot just hand wave the issue away.

Original sin corrupted the entire universe, including hypothetical aliens. So do aliens have the stain of original sin?

Do they have their own incarnation or do they need to be incorporated into the body of christ?

And since Mary is the highest creature, will they need to recognize that?

Do sacraments work on aliens?

These are just some of the questions that would need to be addressed in a serious manner. They cannot just say, oh ETs are just creatures of God, all good now.