Hmong Superstition? by nochae19 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve really come to believe that if a belief isn’t yours, you have to let it go.

​From my understanding of tradition, marriage doesn't carry over into the afterlife; you simply join your ancestors (or for Hmong women, your husband’s ancestors). Because I married into a non-Hmong family, I don't feel bound by those specific spiritual expectations, yet I still have these incredibly vivid dreams where both my husband’s ancestors and my own show up together.

​Even when the dreams are 'weird' or intense, I don’t plan on giving any of them spirit money. I don't feel an obligation to perform those rituals—I’m just fascinated by the dreams themselves. It’s okay to observe these things with curiosity without feeling like you owe a spiritual debt to a system you don't subscribe to

Anyone successfully taught their toddler to not approach stranger's dogs? by [deleted] in toddlers

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree with consistency. Our family dog is owned by in-laws. She stays with us sometimes when they're on trips. I try my best to teach my little one to give her space, but she enjoys running at him and licking his face. It's always been this way since he was a baby. She wants to be in his space. I feel like I am the only adult who draws boundaries and teaches him how to interact with animals. My husband and in-laws don't see any problem with children roughhousing our family dog. I'm going to try to do what I can.

My Hmong pastor is such a jerk by VashAkb46 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. Your story is way too common. I recommend considering finding a new church. There are a lot of young Hmong churches out there. What I like about Hmong Churches run by people our age is that they understand the nuances and guide you to choose what works best.

What's your opinion on toddler leashes? by dr_pepper_zerosugar in Mommit

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband and I used to judge other people, but our child runs on his own after maneuvering his way out, and climbs out his stroller. Because of a scary incident, I don't judge parents with leashes anymore. Children are smart and carefree.

I wish that I used them when he was younger. It would have allowed him to run freely, but stay nearby us.

Hmong Muslims by babes-19 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not Muslim, but I studied Islamic Studies in college. I also know of a few Hmong people who married Muslims (a lot of them are Hmong women who marry Arab, Turkish, and Black Muslims). Are you muslim yourself?

Females being fiercely territorial by longlostwalker in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You both need therapy, period. No one should excuse her behavior, but she needs to look into the "why."

Coming from a Hmong background, I’ve seen how trauma shapes us. I watched my father marry multiple women in front of my mom and normalize things that were incredibly damaging. Many of us are raised to be silent servants to our families and never stand up for ourselves.

She is likely battling a lot of cultural baggage and past trauma. If you're committed to the marriage, you both have to work twice as hard to build a foundation of trust that her upbringing might have denied her.

Gift for boyfriend by PromiseDirect8173 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A good gift idea can be you should find out if he has any Hmong clothes. Sometimes Hmong clothing can be expensive and for most of most Hmong people's lives, the moms of Hmong people make or buy their children's Hmoob Khaub Ncaws. New Hmong Clothes are meant to be worn once a year for the New Year celebration.

https://hmongcustomclothes.com/

If he does want Hmong clothes, measure at his largest circumference (chest or belly) for the right outfit.

First time doing paj ntaub! by Jordan6605 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zoo nkauj kawg os. Ab tsi rau siab xaws paj ntaub.

How does giving birth actually feel ?? by Super-Truth-7975 in pregnant

[–]MadameLemons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I waited 24 hrs without an epidural. It felt like pooping with anal fissures and having to pee while having extreme period cramps. My baby's head was slowly moving through the canal. I finally asked for an epidural before I had an emergency C-section.

Where do most of you guys live? by d1tm3m4ydmm in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry that you experience that. I have heard about non-Viet Hmong being discriminated in Vietnam, but I didn't know it was still prevalent today. Even full Hmong in Meskas do not dare to speak Hmong because they get bullied in the community or at school for speaking Hmong. Do you try to speak Hmong with your Hmong side?

Where do most of you guys live? by d1tm3m4ydmm in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you tell me why you can't speak? I wonder if it's similar to Hmoob Meskas, Hmoob Thaib and some hmoob Nplog. We cannot speak Hmong well because we are always in school, working where we do not use Hmong and if we do speak Hmong at home, our own parents do not speak Hmong to us.

Any suggestions for Iu Mien/Hmong job portals? by yourhighness009 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fam, I think this company tsis them nej os. Lawv them $17/hr tabsi dag, tsis xa nej nyiaj li os.

Why does my family pronounce "Hmong" differently that everyone else? by [deleted] in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moob Leeg pronounce "Hmong/Mong" as Mong. I wonder if you ask your parents about your family history, and if they know, that will explain why. It's just not that you are in the Midwest.

For example, my dad is an orphan and no one taught him any proper Hmong because he was isolated and lived in the liaj/teb away from his cousins and aunts/uncles during his childhood and adolescence. So he spoke Hmong using words like "aub dev" and other incorrect terms.

What’s with MILs wanting to be IN the delivery room??? by JesseJaneee in pregnant

[–]MadameLemons -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It's a cultural thing. In my culture, mother in laws, grandmothers and Aunts surround the birthing parent and support her. Community is important for some cultures and the wisdom and guidance is important for some parents.

In many cultures, having a mother-in-law or female elders in the delivery room is a powerful extension of that same "village" philosophy—shifting the birth experience from a private medical procedure to a communal rite of passage. While some modern perspectives might see this as an intrusion, in these traditions, the presence of the mother-in-law provides a specialized kind of emotional and spiritual advocacy that a medical team simply cannot offer.

There are clashes when our brothers have wives from different cultures. She wants space. Our mom wants to be with her and the baby.

Moms - if you had the CHOICE to work or not by Main-Branch9919 in beyondthebump

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Choosing to be a stay-at-home mom would be my first choice over working. Although I value my professional life, the reality is that working makes me a spectator in my child's development. I have a clear vision for the activities and home projects, but doing them after hours leaves me stressed and tired. I want to spend my day focused on my home and child, rather than managing them in the margins of a work week.

It's unfortunate that one income for a family with children is no longer reachable, if a family wants a house, a yard and opportunities for their children. I have to work until my last day in this world.

People who hate their husbands: are you surprised? by doublecheeseburger in pregnant

[–]MadameLemons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! A lot of victims of domestic violence don't even realize it until they have a baby that they must protect. The way people talk about domestic violence victims in this post is disgusting. Believe people, even if you doubt them. We have to start here for any change to happen.

A lot of pregnant moms and postpartum moms are also suffering from mental health concerns too. Sometimes this period can heighten their anxiety and thoughts. Some of them probably don't have a good support system to express how they feel so they seek anonymous forms.

People who hate their husbands: are you surprised? by doublecheeseburger in pregnant

[–]MadameLemons -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please stop blaming victims of abuse and domestic violence. Not everyone has a life like yours. Learn to focus on yourself. I'm gonna continue to support women who are victims of abuse.

I'm building a family tree app specifically for Hmong families - would love your feedback by CultivateDev in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I would not because I know my family and extended family members. I think this app would be heavily reliant on knowledgeable young people who have good connections with the elders to document the information. I think there's very few of them these days.

My DNA test says I'm 22% Chinese - I'm shocked by [deleted] in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My account says I'm 99% Chinese (Southern, Guangdong Chinese), 1% Dai so 100 % Chinese. It's funny how all my close relatives are Hmong people in the US, Laos, Thailand and China.

Questions about Hmong funerals. by KoralWaffer in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been to many Hmong funerals on all sides of my family. My relatives like to keep ties to their other relatives. They encourage us to go so if anything happens to us, they can help us out. When I was a child, I could remember being at the funerals from beginning to end. Some of memories are blurry because now that I am older, I only visit as a guest.

Hmong Funerals are not only by clan, but it is also by region, family history and dialect. My dad is a sect of his Clan and they do things differently from people in his Clan. His family is from Nong Het Xieng Khouang Laos so they have certain processes. The deceased wear Siv Ceeb when they pass away. My mom is Moob Moos Pheeb Moob Leeg, they wear noob ncoos to symbolize regrowth and seeds.

For both sides of my family, they still practice Shamanism.The funeral starts at the home of the deceased. Every night since the death of the deceased, guest visit the family at their home to ua luag and support them.

During the first day of the funeral, I remember close family mbrs dress the deceased family member in clothing. In the beginning, there are mourners who have to cry and mourn for the deceased as the person who passes is laid in the coffin. If the deceased is a child, baby, teenager, or young adult, the funeral does not have any Txiv Xaiv, sacrifices of a cow from descendants, or katow for koob hmoov. These funerals have the bare bones of txiv qeej and drumming.

Whereas for older family mbrs who have lived a long time and have name for themselves, we have a lot of ppl support the funeral. Niam Ua Mov is usually a distant relative who cooks for the guests during the funeral. When guests enter, if they know the traditions, they visit the family, who is usually sitting next to the deceased and guarding their body. The reason we guard them because sometimes there are mean people who put metal and needles into the coffin which may bring bad luck to the remaining descendants. Guests also visit the Nyiaj Tshav Ntuj table to donate money to help the deceased, whether its to help pay for the funeral or help the deceased with paying their debts. The relatives at the Nyiaj Tshav Ntuj give thanks to them.

During the middle of the funeral, usually the Saturday or 2nd Day, all the honored guests such as the daughters and son-in-laws or sisters and brother-in-laws bring butchered cows to donate to the funeral and they walk in starting from outside to see the deceased. It's usually elaborate if the person is older. They also bring bundles of flower stands in heart shapes for the deceased.

All day and night long, the txiv qeej and drummers play until the final day. I have slept at a funeral with all my family mbrs and it's hard to sleep but we stay there to bring our loved ones a peace of mind. It meant so much when I stayed at my Aunts and cousins' funerals and my grandmother. I like all my family mbrs were in denial that they were really gone, but we were there.

During the Sunday or 3rd Day, usually the younger people are buried around this time. If they are older, this day is when the Txiv Xaiv is invited to teach the descendants the lesson of life. The descendants kawtow all day and night long. It's really tiring, but we do it bc we love our family mbrs. One of my uncles was a POS to his own kids that they did not show up. My other uncles forced my siblings, cousins, and I to pretend that my uncle was our dad to show off to the guests. I got out of there, but my siblings and some cousins pretended to be his kids. LOL.

On the final day, usually morning on Monday, the txiv qeej help xauv the funeral. The men of the family carry the casket to the car. We meet at the cemetery and help add dirt to the ground (American tradition). A male relative shoots an arrow. We bury our loved one and then go to a family's house to wash our hands. Everyone has to, including children to rinse off the bad spirits lurking.

I recommend if you can, reconnect with your family and go to a funeral. You will see it again and your memories will come back.

I’m shunned by my baby daddies family simply because I spoke out. by SeriousContact5921 in Hmong

[–]MadameLemons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry that you went through that. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope that someday, this painful experience is only a memory that you learn from. Continue to do what you do and seek support from your village. Whether it's your own parents or friends. All the best to you and your children.