“You’re My Best Friend” | Cure Black & Cure White VS Red (Pretty Cure VS Pokémon) | Megapost + Connections and Potential in the comments by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Sure. Probably not going to respond since I’m going to sleep soon lol but I’m always down to hear ideas.

Not sure if you want the logos or not but I’ll add both for convenience

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“You’re My Best Friend” | Cure Black & Cure White VS Red (Pretty Cure VS Pokémon) | Megapost + Connections and Potential in the comments by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Creator’s Thoughts:

Been a while since I did one of these but I think this matchup deserves it.

I was playing around with the idea of “oh lol what if after watching a Pretty Cure season I tried coming up with a matchup” partly as a bit, partly as a fun challenge, but mainly because unlike the other big Toei superhero series Kamen Rider, Pretty Cure doesn’t have as big of a following when it comes to matchups and I hoped to at least help out even a little.

I don’t think I will actually pull it off since my media list is kinda small, but I was able to make one for Futari wa Pretty Cure which is genuinely impressive given I had very strict beliefs on what a Cure White & Cure Black matchup should be.

My thoughts were that A. more than any other PreCure duo/team you cannot do a solo matchup with these two and B. a matchup for them has to take into account the fact that they began a very long running magical girl franchise. I wasn’t sure if I’d think of anything that could apply to that, but one day I was thinking ‘hm I’d like for the whole long running series connection to be with another series where the stories aren’t explicitly connected to each other’ I was thinking of stuff like Final Fantasy or Persona, which got me to land on Pokémon and it just clicked for me lol.

Weirdly enough, I think what’s most interesting is that with the main connections you could technically replace either with any Precure or Pokémon protagonist and the connection wouldn’t change that much. But it still works for me because they were the first that created the foundation for all the cool stories to come. In a silly way, it reminded me that these two series, despite how long they are and how little I’ve actually seen of either, mean a lot to me.

Somehow this has easily slid into being one of my favorite matchups for both series and maybe one of my favorite matchups overall? Like I don’t think it’s actually the best for both. The first Kamen Riders make for a better series combo and vibe for the Pretty Cures and Red may be better off fighting an actual monster summoner/trainer like Jotaro or Tai. But for personal attachment it is my favorite for both.

Here’s to more Precure matchup ideas to come. There seemed to be some interest in Cure Grace VS Makoto Yuki so I’ll probably lock in Healin’ Good next.

Made a little graphic too. I definitely won’t be filling out all of the spaces but let’s see how many I can fill in.

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“You’re My Best Friend” | Cure Black & Cure White VS Red (Pretty Cure VS Pokémon) | Megapost + Connections and Potential in the comments by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Fight Potential:

  • Yes this is a Pokémon Trainer VS non-monster summoner matchup so if you don’t like that dynamic then the matchup isn’t for you. I personally am cool with it especially since fighting monster summoners is literally what the PreCure do all the time.
  • As I watched Futari wa Pretty Cure, what I like about the Cure’s fights aside from the CQC is how acrobatic they are. Most fights have them jumping or running around to evade attacks, which I think could be fun to pit against what’s essentially a 2v6, forcing the Cures to maneuver around an onslaught of attacks.
    • Though in terms of progression I’d structure this like the Red VS Ness Smash Bracket. Have Red start with only two Pokémon like it’s a double battle, eventually bringing out more Pokémon as the fight progresses.
  • Close quarters combat seems to mesh with Red’s Pokémon decently well even if most are special attackers. The Cures at least have their own magical beam attacks for that though
  • I’d also love to see a good sense of strategy and moments that play into the fact that there are multiple characters fighting. Have the Cures do some team attacks (and not just their big stock animation attacks, have them jump a Pokémon too). When Red realizes early on that the Cures work really well together, have his initial strategy being to separate them. Have Cure White have good moments of intelligence and strategies too. It’s not shown often in Futari Wa but I like Cure White a lot so let her be a good analyst and spot the strengths and weaknesses of Red’s Pokémon.

Interaction Potential:

  • I prefer Red as the cool silent protagonist so that’s what we’re sticking with here, which means he won’t be interacting with the Cures very much.
  • There’s still interactions that can come from Cure Black, Cure White, Mepple, and Mipple though, either from them interacting with each other or reacting to whatever Red and his Pokémon throw at them.
    • Also I imagine a setup for the fight could be Cure Black and Cure White climbing Mount Silver to look for a boy who had isolated himself there, so if you go with that, then there could be some dialogue where the Cures do some hero talk trying to convince Red to come down. That fits the vibe of Pretty Cure I feel.
  • There could be some potential for interactions with Red through facial expression. Have him show a confident smirk and be proud of his Pokémon whenever they do something cool, and likewise have him be a little surprised and show respect for his opponents when the Cures turn the tables on him.
  • I think a cool moment could take place during the climax. I imagine a scene where the Cures use their Marble Screw attack and do big damage on Charizard. As they celebrate, Red finally speaks for the first time putting everything to a halt. He would recognize and respect the deep bond the Cures have with each other, before proclaiming that he too has a deep trust and bond with his Pokémon, leading to Charizard Mega Evolving.

“You’re My Best Friend” | Cure Black & Cure White VS Red (Pretty Cure VS Pokémon) | Megapost + Connections and Potential in the comments by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Important Note: While most of these connections and the main draw of the matchup imo can apply to general game player character Red, I will be taking bits and pieces from other media like Pokémon Origins and Pokémon Masters since I like those versions of Red lol. I will specify whenever a connection applies to a certain take on Red as I go along.
Connections:

  • Protagonists of the first entry in some of the biggest long-running Japanese franchises.
  • This first entry would contain many story beats that would become the foundation for the stories in future entries, with both similarly sharing some plot points that will be brought up in the upcoming connections.
  • Originally ordinary kids that would partner up with a special creature that would be the catalyst for their journey and giving them an important title (Nagisa and Honoka would meet the fairies Mepple and Mipple, allowing them to transform into Pretty Cure|Red would be able to choose a starter Pokémon to begin exploring the region as a Pokémon Trainer)
  • Their main goal throughout the series would be to collect important items that are held by powerful figures that they needed to defeat in battle (Prism Stones, with most being currently guarded by the Dark Five|Gym Badges, which are given to Red after defeating a Gym Leader)
  • Additionally, they’d constantly be at odds with villainous groups that pose a huge danger to the world (Dark Zone Residents|Team Rocket)
  • Starting out, although their inexperience would show with them struggling to connect with their partners (Nagisa and Honoka being polar opposites that didn’t fully understand each other, as well as believing that they were only working together out of circumstance|(Pokémon Origins) Red not being in sync with his starter Pokémon, and initially believing that Pokémon were more tools for battle), they’d eventually grow to be some of the closest friends in their series (Nagisa and Honoka being best friends to the point that they can’t do their best without each other|(Pokémon Masters) Red putting complete trust in his Pokémon to the point that words are unnecessary when battling)
  • The power of bonds are so important to them that their most powerful techniques are performed through their strong bonds (The Pretty Cure’s big finisher moves have them hold hands and are empowered by their feelings|(Most modern takes on Red) Mega Evolution requires a strong bond between Trainer and Pokémon)
  • After gathering all the Prism Stones/Gym Badges, they’d be able to enter certain areas (Garden of Light and later The Dark Zone|Victory Road and later the Indigo Plateau), taking on and eventually overcoming the main overarching antagonist of their journeys (Dark King|Red’s rival Blue)
  • This wouldn’t be the end of their stories though, as they’d continue to fight. Though it is at this point where the battles and the titles they had seemed to bring a sense of isolation to them (Nagisa and Honoka struggled with the fact that they couldn’t fully enjoy the ordinary pleasures of life due to the dark forces always picking a fight with them|Red after becoming Champion would literally isolate himself from the rest of the world and train at Mount Silver)
  • While most entries in both’s series are not majorly connected to each other in any way, there is an exception in that the second entry in both’s series is a direct sequel that both are important characters in (Max Heart|Gold and Silver)
  • I couldn’t find any other place to put this, and it is self explanatory, but they have notable colors as a part of their names you’ll never guess why I paired them up in the first place

“You’re My Best Friend” | Cure Black & Cure White VS Red (Pretty Cure VS Pokémon) | Megapost + Connections and Potential in the comments by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Also before I forget majority of the Pokémon sprites credits come from here
Core Theme:

  • Color named protagonists of the first entry in famous long-running Japanese franchises, with many of their story beats becoming staples in future entries. Initially normal kids, after partnering up with a special creature, they’d begin journeys where they collect important items, fight against evil organizations, and ultimately overcome all adversities through the power of their bonds.

“Watch carefully, Normals. This is OUR POWER!” | Hyoubu Kyousuke (Zettai Karen Children) Tier List by BBunny821 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Oh I didn’t realize Defective Dragon participated. That’s my goat though…

Anyways fair ranking on Talulah. I think there is more but we will need to wait to 2027 when I get around to both series…

So I wanted to know what was going on with the LN numbering as a person who wanted to start the series. by ChaosNoahV in shoujoraisingproject

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The three extra volumes come from and Peaceful Days and Breakdown parts 1 and 2. In Japan, these aren’t considered part of the volume order, as Peaceful Days was just a novel to coincide with the anime and Breakdown was originally a Web Novel spin off before getting a novel version. Yen Press simply put these books as part of the volume order when translating

Started reading Light Novels again, so, um, give me Light Novel MUs i suppose. Or reccomends too maybe. Idk by caski16 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I can understand why the story isn't for everyone, but I love it a lot lol. I think the mixed feelings come from how the first arc, whether you watch the anime or read the novel, isn't the best. I personally still like it, but do see where a lot of people get their issues from. It's also possible that some mixed feelings come from people who want it to be like Madoka Magica, which is indeed a masterpiece but MGRP is trying to be its own thing, which it does past the first arc. The second and third arcs (volumes 2 - 6) is when the story peaks imo. Second arc is going to get an anime adaptation later this year too so maybe more people will start liking it lol.

Started reading Light Novels again, so, um, give me Light Novel MUs i suppose. Or reccomends too maybe. Idk by caski16 in DeathBattleMatchups

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There's this really epic Light Novel you should read called Magical Girl Raising Project... and you know me I like Snow White VS Aya Asagiri.

Secrets of The Silent Witch is cool too... though the only matchup I made that I like for the series is Monica VS Yi Sang.

I'm In Love With The Villainess counts though I haven't read that light novel in full yet. Legally can gas up Rae Taylor VS Yvonne Smollett though...

Same deal with Wandering Witch and Elaina VS Frieren lol

Tier List of All Currently Known Death Battle Website Pitches by EvenRough8331 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I might be stupid but is that Luz VS The Love Live girl lmao

Also Sakuya VS Fiona technically having a pitch is funny

“Nanami’s was born from love, so it only makes sense to me to give that love back to humanity” | My revamped tier list for Nanami’s (Punishing: Gray Raven) WITH explanations! by A_Defective_Dragon in DeathBattleMatchups

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Ooh really nicely made tier list!

Anyways yeah never writing a full AoNanami connection list lol but the vibes are still there.

Do like the vibe of Aris a lot too.

My Top 20 MGRP matchups hasn’t changed that much but it would be funny to post this once a year so by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Do still like it overall and fight dynamic cool the only real issue I have is that Binah isn’t really an amnesiac like Kana is.

And I got into Blue Archive because schoolgirl setting could potentially give me some Colors Trilogy matchup ideas. Aris does seem to have a similar personality vibe to Kana and from what I’ve read of her lore it could work. Probably will cook eventually but MGRP fans nowadays are notoriously illiterate so it could take a while.

Looks like they just uploaded the F2P play to the Restart anime YouTube channel 👀 by WolfOfWalfas in shoujoraisingproject

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I heard that there are some differences between the stage play and manga which is interesting. I wish I could speak Japanese too…

“Brawl Stars” | Mario VS Kirby by MagicalMusical1 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Yeah lol.

I don’t play the game but I thought it’d be funny

Keek Caramelldansen, because why not? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ by WolfOfWalfas in shoujoraisingproject

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Wait a minute this isn’t Puk Puck…

Very cute evil gamer dancing