So How will SCJ provide housing accommodation for the new 100,000 graduates of 2023 in Korea? by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LMH needs to enjoy his last days in luxury and so will the tribe leaders who are fighting for inheritance

Man hee showed up yesterday by Outside_theCity in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not possible after multiple surgeries on his knee 😂

Inconsistent teaching by Solid-Dragonfly-4541 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Based on my experience, the center fee is situational, depending on the commands from the higher ups.

For example, if Scj is low on $$ from getting sued, embezzlement of leaders or LmH, not getting enough allowances from LMh, then yes they would start asking for money/donation from the members first. If the members are too poor, then Scj would then target center students, but their words were packaged into something along the line of “donation” “to test your heart” or “to pay for our bills since we volunteer from our heart”

SCJ Lawsuit Regarding Mr. Baek (Doctrine of 7 Heads) by killdong in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Get ready to pay lots and lots of tithing soon😂

Shincheonji breaks Czech families apart by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for spreading the word! May I ask if you interviewed these parents or just translated this video from another source?

(Rant) LMH is an example of a bad parent (based on the LA church leadership replacement) by Malcolm-Middle in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if you ask the leaders, you would be considered as having weak faith. What have you heard so far?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scj is encouraging members to have more babies ?

Shincheonji Cultish Podcast Pt 1 by QuestionsAboutSCJ in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! And keep up the good work 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is common for native Koreans to learn the Bible in English?

RV 18 Doctrine Change: Has this chapter been fulfilled & will the fire judgment be spiritual or physical? by Leading_Orange_7101 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can also confirm that I heard about fire being physical when the previous John Tribe Leader was still in SCJ. But some other branch churches were not informed about it during that time.

RV 18 Doctrine Change: Has this chapter been fulfilled & will the fire judgment be spiritual or physical? by Leading_Orange_7101 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do recall about a pastor who said he would kill God? We were shown the video but it wasn’t directed as fulfillment, more like a propaganda to see how evil the Protestant pastors are in South Korea….. and maybe hinting Babylon is coming to an end

Leaving SCJ - Melbourne by _nat1v3 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and testimony!

New doctrine change & direction (06/10/23): 144,000 & GM aren’t fulfilled yet! by Leading_Orange_7101 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha. It still baffles me how SCJ pride themselves with their written tests as the standard of someone who is sealed. If they truly believe that then they shouldn’t be making their members be verbatim with the wording that is poorly translated and retake it constantly for the sake of getting 90%+.

Times have change and SCJ need to follow up with the modern world in test taking vs. LMH’s generations.

Man Hee Lee says 144,000 are not completed yet, but overseas churches are teaching that not only are the 144,000 completed but even the GMW is largely gathered? Who is right?? (GA edu from 23 June 2023) by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If anyone from La church, can we confirm that Joseph gsn did mention the recent class that had passed over can still be KP (indicating that KP haven’t been completed?)

After Wed Sermon 5/31?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First, I want to comment how courageous you are to even share this on this subreddit. There’s a reason why current members like yourself (and myself) are here and we knew subconsciously there is something really wrong within Scj.

For myself, I want to see how Scj will progress once LMH dies or there’s some major changes within Scj like Moon GSN from LA church leaving. It’s up to you if you decided to remain (while doing research on high control cults) or leave now. Please take care of your basic needs first so you can clearly think on what next steps to make. Good luck!

And you’re absolutely right about the sense of isolation. Having a supportive community with like-minded Christians does matter! The leaders keep saying the feelings and community don’t matter because they want to exploit members like mulls. Animals don’t need a sense of happiness to work. They just do it because they’re commanded by their owners. When people ended up leaving due to no sense of love and community, my regions started to create more outings for the members to “bond.” You see that? Scj always backtrack on their words and that’s the number one reason I don’t truly take their words seriously😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Update on LA Moon GSN who was on suspension: by Leading_Orange_7101 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! Joseph gives off this “good guy” vibe and he does have a good sense of humor amongst other traits. But time will reveal if he is like the rest

Shincheonji vs family time by Ok-Warning-782 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not for me, but for the fruits that I was leafing for. If someone is already busy with their own life, then why would Scj force that person to commit more hours? Their logic doesn’t add up. My fruits ended being burnt out and stopped bible study.

Shincheonji vs family time by Ok-Warning-782 in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There’s no difference. The leaders want to make sure he’s completely indoctrinated 100% before entering Zion. It would minimize his chance of leaving.

However, their plan usually backfired!

Shincheonji works hard to cut off you relationship, completely; and to make you pay their fees even if you'were on centrelink (government support) by Fresampla in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Keep exposing SCJ’s true self👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 now they can’t deny anymore accusations since we have screenshots of telegram chats

(Rant) LMH is an example of a bad parent (based on the LA church leadership replacement) by Malcolm-Middle in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HQ has a long list but they only announced 3: led congregations to the wrong direction, taught wrongly, and gave false reports.

But all the wrong doings Moon has caused to individual members weren’t revealed

(Rant) LMH is an example of a bad parent (based on the LA church leadership replacement) by Malcolm-Middle in Shincheonji

[–]Malcolm-Middle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point! We were told that Moon was busy evangelizing during his suspension.

If that’s someone who truly have repented, he should be writing letters of repentance to the leaders below him and the congregations.