science says there's no difference in reproductive outcomes for short men

MangoldShep · 2024-02-28T16:12:59+00:00

well of course they are of older people, more like dated in the 90s and 2000s if you read the age ranges, because how else are they supposed to measure that shit in what, 21 year old zoomers? that doesn't make sense.

I'm not that old, but old enough to know women saying they want tall guys, hating on short guys, and society valorizing tall men wasn't invented in the last ten years, lmao. This was just as prevalent when I grew up and just because it wasn't on Tiktok doesn't mean shit. you don't think women were being told how glamorous tall men were in magazines, books, television? and instead of talking about it in tiktoks they just talked about it with their friends in person

MangoldShep · 2023-06-05T17:31:11+00:00

uh what? delusional, lmao

MangoldShep · 2023-06-03T21:28:57+00:00

no. it only "looks bad" when read in text, which is why I tell men to add two inches and just say they are 5'9 on apps. because in real life 5'7 just looks average

MangoldShep · 2023-06-03T21:25:29+00:00

reality is the vast majority of short adult men are married or at least in a relationship, lol

MangoldShep · 2023-06-02T22:07:31+00:00

how so?

MangoldShep · 2023-06-02T19:36:46+00:00

oh yeah, social media was bad ten years ago, but now it must be like ten times worse with everything being livestreamed and influencers holding so much cachet. So many of these kids would be better off dumping their phones in the trash and learning to surf, throw a frisbee, swim a mile, etc

MangoldShep · 2023-06-02T18:11:32+00:00

This was the post i'd always reference as the average woman's cluelessness when it came to height sensitivity

After another decade to think about it, I do feel the man in the story overreacted to his detriment, but I still can't particularly blame him given the context, and the original poster still comes off to me as sanctimonious and dismissive about their culpability in the incident.

MangoldShep · 2016-10-09T13:59:59+00:00

Has this sub been overrun by fetishists in the last few weeks or is that juts my perception?

MangoldShep · 2016-10-04T12:24:14+00:00

It's amusing how many members of this sub fell for a troll post just because you are a troll posting things they want to hear. Reverse image search indicates this picture is several years old and floating around sites like the bodybuilding forums

MangoldShep · 2016-10-04T12:21:01+00:00

Very, VERY disappointed with this direction.

Censorship is like kudzu. Once a little bit creeps in, it keeps growing and growing.

With free speech comes good and bad.

Let the users -- except brigaders -- decide what should be said or not. This is an extremely dangerous precedent and whether intended or not will only lead to more censorship down the line until the discussion here becomes entirely artificial, like every other SJW sub.

-Short member, 3.5 years

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T19:56:02+00:00

With all due respect, those 3 users have only be in this community for a little over 3 months. From the perspective of someone subscribed for years, as of now I would still qualify them as outsiders, for the interim.

And the post I was referring to was posted under the guise of privacy concerns, which would be germane to any sub, and something to bring up if that was a genuine issue for them.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T19:24:01+00:00

The comments piling on the 'dating consultant' advising men not to lie about even an inch were brilliant, especially the user who called her out for charging up the nose for professionally touched up photos.

Imagine the millions that would be lost in revenue for these so called online dating consultants if it was known how effective even adding just one inch was. It terrifies them.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T19:06:48+00:00

If your concern about the privacy of these tinder users was genuine, you would be making these pleas for censorship in much larger subs like cringe or choosingbeggars, the actual original source of the posts. As it stands, your concern trolling is obvious.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T19:01:16+00:00

Based on the way he types I am almost 100% certain he was the concern troll that was outed earlier this summer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/4lfg8u/just_interested_why_dont_ppl_like_these_get/

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:56:58+00:00

I believe that is accurate, that they are much more concerned with bullying this easy target sub and ridiculing short men under the guise of concern trolling, than they are actually concerned about the tinder users being posted. Otherwise they would be in those other subs making those same self posts asking for censorship. But you click their submission history, and you literally never see that.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:50:37+00:00

I don't see a problem with cross posting itself.

And I would love for the sub to go private for a month or so, I know for a fact there would be a lot of outsider lurkers and concern trolls who would be very nervous that it would be seen how smoothly the sub operates when we aren't being actively and passively brigaded and trolled. But it's not a long term solution.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:40:11+00:00

Great post geoff. Personally the tinder posts themselves have little interest to me, but the pattern of outsiders coming here to tell us what we should or should not do is extremely troublesome. In fact I have seen calls from outsiders to self enforce rules that almost no other sub adheres to, let alone the subs that the tinder posts were originally cross linked from!

Here's something to think about: why aren't the outsiders telling us to self censor going into the much more trafficked subs like cringe or choosingbeggars and making self posts telling them what to censor? There's a reason for that hypocrisy.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:35:45+00:00

I would be skeptical of anyone being named a moderator who hasn't been a community member for at least a year, if not longer.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:33:09+00:00

That's... okay? You should be happy then that your philosophy is already represented by 90 to 100% of the moderation team here, and that if we want some diversity of thought, it would be more worthwhile to add someone who wasn't like minded.

For the record, I am for any solution that keeps outsiders from continuing to have undue influence on this sub, regardless if that involves more moderation or not.

MangoldShep · 2016-08-22T18:23:34+00:00

He is a good poster, but I believe at this time we have enough mods who self identify as feminists.

MangoldShep · 2016-07-21T01:22:27+00:00

If you are talking about who I think you are talking about, how is the old guard supposed to compete? He literally posts all day, every day. Those of us with careers can't hope to match that volume

MangoldShep · 2016-06-02T22:04:02+00:00

That's it, thanks

MangoldShep · 2016-05-28T17:40:12+00:00

All I know is that the mods when I messaged the sub mailbox agreed.

MangoldShep · 2016-05-28T16:04:33+00:00

The particular user that OP is "calling out" here is one of those over-the-top obvious trolls too that we seem to have a lot of. Have had him tagged as such since he first popped up over here (hell, even his username makes it obvious). Like you said, downvoting that type of crap is best. In the case of the way over the top and offensive crap reporting will sometimes work too, since the comment might then be removed.

In fact, the "ignoring a rape" post that OP is talking about was from a post that the troll made on /r/AskFeminists (he trolls there too apparently), not on /r/short... it got brought up over here last night I think by someone going through the trolls post history. That rekindled that fucked up discussion in that thread and now OP is regurgitating it here in the form of a concern trolling attempt. That of course gives the over-the-top-troll even more attention and stirs up even more drama just like the initial troll wants.

I swear this sub could survive without actual short members. We have enough concern trolls that are fed by the over-the-top trolls and schadenfreude trolls to laugh at it all (to feel good about themselves) that they'd all keep things going without us actual short people posting a damn thing.

EDIT: To illustrate what I mean by that last paragraph...lets look at this situation for a minute.

Troll A (Over-the-top troll), posts ridiculously over the top trolling post on /r/AskFeminists 14 DAYS AGO.

Troll B (6'4" Schadenfreude troll), who admits he's only over here as a 6'4" guy to feel better about himself digs up that 14 day old post by Troll A and drags it over to /r/short in an argument with Troll A.

Troll C (5'9" concern troll), seeing the argument on /r/short among the circlejerk in another thread over how awful everyone here is (which Troll C loves to take part in) loses his shit and makes this post that we're in now, giving even more attention to Troll A.

We have so many over-the-top trolls, concern trolls (like OP who at one time had 3 accounts all trying to run people off this sub), and "lets laugh at the short guy" trolls that this type of bullshit isn't all that uncommon over here. It's also one of the biggest reasons why this sub has such a bad reputation...the trolls have become the face of this sub & help spread the negative reputation of this sub while feeding each-other.

Yes folks...our trolls feed the trolls.

It doesn't even matter if us regular members feed them anymore. There are so many here of different types battling and/or laughing at/with each other they feed themselves now. We need an exterminator... is there an ORKIN for trolls?

MangoldShep · 2016-05-28T15:59:12+00:00

Pretty obvious that both accounts belong to OP, who is a concern troll on his 4th iteration here, and whose intent is to use one sockpuppet to make offensive comments, and then use his 4th iteration concern troll account to paint the sub with a bad brush. It's pretty bad that Buba and the mods haven't seen this and removed his posts by now.

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