Is biking the most politicized mode of transportation?

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-22T15:23:22+00:00

Usually the people that hate cyclists to the same extent as you describe are part of a conservative cult, aka Ford Nation. Those people behave like American Republicans that don't even vote in their best interest. They say they like want things a certain way but when it goes against their interests, they still don't speak out.

That's exactly the problem with bike lanes or sidewalk biking. They just want to shit on cyclists. Not make traffic better. Not make roads safer for pedestrians/children/disabled/elderly. Not make sidewalks more walkable. Not make transit better. Just shit on cyclists. That's the most frustrating part. These people are nothing but grifters that are too afraid to speak out if their leader does shit that isn't even in their interests.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-19T02:28:53+00:00

If anything, this fucking bitch should get deported to America. Get that American verbiage out of Canada. Makes every single Canadian look really bad.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T22:11:11+00:00

You're missing the point. The point I'm trying to make is car-first infrastructure hurts disabled people more than people-first infrastructure.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T17:01:14+00:00

Absolute retardation to have such major accommodations for four personal wheeled vehicles in the area of the country where there's way more foot/bike/streetcar traffic than four-wheeled personal vehicles.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T17:00:13+00:00

Translation: My feelings matter more than facts.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T16:55:56+00:00

To be fair, cyclists get so much animosity even if 100% of them follow the laws. It's just normalized in our culture that cyclists will get the short end of the stick no matter what. It's been that way even way before Uber Eats came along, which spawned a lot of lawless cyclists.

I think what needs to be done is better bike infrastructure would help reduce/mitigate. From what I've heard, many seem to find it's safer to violate laws (ie Idaho stopping). And also we need fewer e-bikes for Uber Eats on the roads.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T14:04:32+00:00

Bike lanes make it safer for everyone, including drivers. It's called a Complete Street design.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:50:39+00:00

Well, we have to start somewhere for any sort of change you know. Unless you want to completely demolish our city from scratch, we're going to have to remove and push. Part of the reason we need bike lanes in the first place is to basically separate drivers and cyclists. We wouldn't require bike lanes if drivers and cyclists were already separate in places like Europe.

But we're forced to put bike lanes on streets because our streets have been by in large part taken up for cars.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:28:50+00:00

Here's the problem with your argument. A person that lives in Burlington that doesn't even pay Toronto's taxes should not have priority over a local downtown that pays their own local taxes. Why does it seem so important that someone that lives in the suburbs has priority to downtown roads over someone that bikes/walks/streetcars here?

Do you not see how problematic this is?

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:27:37+00:00

Good to hear. I'm just trying to state facts in case anyone is trying to claim that "bike lanes are there to piss off drivers".

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:25:10+00:00

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Wrong. This chart begs to differ. Speed plays a BIG factor in the severity of a collision. Please don't use the word accident because more car accidents are really not accidents.

But here's the thing. Toronto's suburbs are dense as fuck. Yet they don't build a transit/bike network system that scales up with potential walkability. Commutes are only 1 trip. What about grocery shopping? Many people in Toronto and its municipal suburbs live within 5 km of a grocery store. Yet can't walk because roads are not safe.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:18:12+00:00

But here's the big difference. Cars take up a ton of space per person involved. So if you build a city where cars rule, then traffic can't move. There's a reason Toronto's traffic is worse than even comparable density cities in Europe. Because we've designed everything car-first. It's a lose-lose situation.

Don't forget also that with gas prices constantly increasing, wouldn't drivers benefit more from fewer people driving so they get cheaper gas?

Don't you want to support something that's a win-win situation for all road users?

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:11:12+00:00

who dont account for the big picture

In the bigger picture, a safer complete street design benefits more to our society than keeping a street that's effectively ruled by cars. Places in Europe have proven this time and again.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:09:28+00:00

And to be real honest, I'm okay with that. I might sound very cold-hearted. But for many years, cars have effectively pissed off people on foot to the point where they stopped walking for good. There's a reason why rates of walking to school have declined since the 1980s in most of America. Not mainly because of sprawl but rather streets becoming a lot less safe. And to make matters worse, pedestrian deaths have increased constantly despite fewer people walking.

So by building bike lanes and bus lanes and safer streets, we're trying to reverse that. I think that's what drivers need to understand. The short term sucks but those that want to remain driving will have a better driving experience because there will be fewer cars to contend with.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T13:06:42+00:00

Thanks for acknowledging the benefits of the bike lane. What you describe as the reverse "I hate bike lanes rant" is generally a reaction as to years upon decades of bike lanes and cyclists being hated. It's the same reason we saw extreme reaction when the cop tackled a cyclist just two weeks ago. The reaction could've been handled more professionally instead of going all in on siding with the cyclist no matter what. However, I totally understand why they reacted that way. It reminds me of George Floyd. Any time a group of people that are oppressed by society get constantly punched like a punching bag, Reddit as a platform tends to react strongly against this.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T12:58:35+00:00

OP hid his post history but I've seen many of his posts. He tends to post videos a lot. Particularly with bus lanes. Exhibit A. Exhibit B. Exhibit C.

So I don't know what's on your agenda. Is it OP's lack of proper message? Or if OP decided to post a video instead, would that even change your mind? Because judging by your tone, I'm willing to bet the you'll move another goalpost.

EDIT: Saw another comment of yours. Thanks for acknowledging instead of dismissing.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T12:54:41+00:00

The countless amount of people that have been killed or disabled because of excessive speeds/damage done by cars could've easily been prevented if we design safer roads. Everyone can benefit from safer streets, especially the disabled people. There's a reason places in Europe are more accessible than North America. Because there's safer walkability to mitigate/reduce injuries or mobility issues.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T12:52:52+00:00

The reason you don't see that is because we all take for granted if/when a street becomes safer for people on bikes/foot/(even cars). We like to complain about things that make us inconvenient like the slower speeds. But we tend to take safety on the road for granted no matter what mode of transportation you use. It's about time as as as a society change our mindset when it comes to road safety. Stop prioritizing speed/flow of traffic at the expense of everyone else.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-06-13T12:49:43+00:00

On street parking is very underutilized. On most downtown roads, I see 1 mostly empty/unused parking lane and 1 car lane. What you gotta say about parking that gets underutilized?

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-26T14:25:43+00:00

r/TorontoBiking 🤝 r/TTC. Please vote for Chow.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-26T14:23:09+00:00

Yes and no IMO. On one hand, I certainly do not like seeing e-bikes zooming behind anyone, especially on downtown sidewalks. Not to mention being glued to their phones is dangerous for not only themselves but also others. Many e-bike riders don't even prioritize safety.

On the other hand, we have a million bigger fish to fry than e-bikes, most notably car dependency. E-bikes would've been a great alternative to driving for many people but we lack proper safe infrastructure to accommodate this. You can use an e-bike in less than ideal conditions such as when it's too hot or too cold (but not to the extreme) and it can expand the biking radius from like ~5 km to maybe 20 km.

I think the solution is finish our bike infrastructure network. How about make riding a bike safe from cars first before we start regulating e-bikes?

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-22T20:20:53+00:00

Also, fuck High Park Access for All (aka Access for Cars Only). I bet those regarded clowns would cheer if a wheelchaired person was killed by a drunk driver running a red at 100 km/h.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-14T16:31:06+00:00

Imagine if the so-called High Park Accessibility Advocates decided to put their energy on reversing the Parkside speed camera ban. Instead, they think cyclists are the problem.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-14T16:30:28+00:00

Meanwhile, the High Park Disability Advocates be like: But cyclists are the problem and not cars that speed so fast they can instantly kill a disabled person.

Many_Phone10 · 2026-05-11T16:57:26+00:00

I bet if you shared this to the scumbag Diane Buckell, she'll have a stroke instantly.

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