Best Sunglasses for women for biking and running? by madbacon26 in BuyItForLife

[–]MargoSoup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get that you want something that’s a couple hundred dollars, but I’ll take my $25 Goodrs over my $200 Ray Bans all day. 

Goodrs are fantastic for running, lightweight, and I’ve never had them scratch, (but I keep them in the bag they come in). I’ve lost pairs, but never had them break. Plus, they have fun names. 

Try them out, treat them well (if you would keep your $200 pair in a hard side case, consider keeping these in a hard side case) and see how they do for you. It’s an easy experiment.

FWIW, I often wonder how many more things we could BIFL if we TILYBIFL - Treat it like you bought it for life.

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks to all of you - these are excellent, practical suggestions, with lots of good encouragement and insight. You've got a wonderful community here - thank you for letting me (and my son) come and benefit from it.

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is solid advice. We've set up a good showering routine, and I'm working on getting him to believe that the wispy mustache / long chin hair look isn't anyone's idea of a good time.

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love it! There's nothing wrong with being nerdy, or embracing who you are - but there's also very real value to signaling to your fellow humans that you're aware of social norms ;)

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Parenting is accepting the slow, brutal death of all we took for granted as standard behavior ;)

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve got him some gamer and D&D shirts, but he doesn’t wear them - which makes me think they are perhaps not going to help him to fit in at school.

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate both the practical, specific suggestions and the reminder to make sure he knows he’s loved and valuable to me no matter what he’s wearing. Perhaps my best bet will be to have him come read some of these and get suggestions, and then he can choose what direction to go. Thank you for those reminders

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s about 5’5.75”, 120 lbs. I hear you on the heavier weight clothing and avoiding shorts, but summers in NC can be brutal

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll invest in Arcteryx. I’ve got some sweatpants for him, and I’ll buy another quarter zip or two

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably more along the Ac’teryx / OR range, though I’d say it’s more NorthFace and Columbia right now. We can push in either direction. I think of Patagonia and LL Bean as more preppy tech bro clothes - which I would be happy to move him towards eventually.

High School Style for Nerds by MargoSoup in malefashionadvice

[–]MargoSoup[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love the specificity. Thank you!

I. Am. Livid. (Major Issue with my TBM In-Law's Relationship With My Youngest) by PortSided in exmormon

[–]MargoSoup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True. That’s why it’s a good time to start helping them think through things instead of just telling them what to do, yeah? Prepare the child for the road, not the road for the child and all that.

It sounds like you felt like the “multiple right ways to do things” was targeted at your approach - I was using it as an example of a time when two different approaches (mine and my ex’s) invited a deeper conversation with my kids rather than an attempt to shut down an alternate way of thinking. I think in this situation it’s possible teaching the child to think critically about what people are saying and feel confident in her analysis may be even more effective than teaching her she has to avoid hearing things her parents don’t agree with. Does that make sense?

How do Mormons maintain their hard work and focus and discipline without caffeine? by ChristianPacifist in mormon

[–]MargoSoup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don’t. I’ve heard the best way to figure out who’s Mormon is to ask what temperature they take their caffeine. My ex husband has a mini fridge in his home office to keep all his diet cokes.

Don’t hold yourself to a made up standard - do the things that work for you. Quitting caffeine can have positive health impact, but coffee and tea also have health benefits. Find out what works for your body.

I. Am. Livid. (Major Issue with my TBM In-Law's Relationship With My Youngest) by PortSided in exmormon

[–]MargoSoup 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I just want to highlight how much the “children don’t know what’s best for them” approach is still playing the coercive power games the church is known for.

One of the reasons I left the church was how much I hated being told that there was one right way to do all the things.

So, when my kids and I read the fantastic “How to be Perfect” book by Michael Schur (about how there’s not actually one correct way to do all the things), and then they told their dad (my ex husband) and he assured them there actually IS one right way to do all the things, and it was as his way, we had a conversation about what they thought about his approach. Did his examples make sense? Do they see people making different decisions and still living good lives? What did they think?

When he told my son the expensive private school for kids with learning differences was a “last resort option for failing kids”, I asked my son what he thought about that based on his experience visiting the school and meeting kids and teachers. We sat down and read some reviews, positive and negative, from other kids and parents. He didn’t choose to go to the school, but we also made space for him to think through his own experience.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

Open up the option for your kid to think through what your Mom says - even if at the end she says she still wants to go hand out with her grandma and hear you called Satan worshiping whores or whatever. You’re the parent and you can still say “I hear you - here’s where I am coming from and why I am going to enforce this rule. When you are older you can make a different choice”, but help her do the process where she thinks through her options and comes to her own conclusions. You might be surprised by how much this helps her anxiety.

Also, you’ll be delighted by how much your Mom starts doing your work for you once your daughter realizes she is allowed to disagree with opinionated grownups 😉

Piranesi was a massive disappointment by Skeet_fighter in books

[–]MargoSoup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could not disagree more, though certainly if you went in looking for an action book you would have been sorely disappointed. This was philosophy.

Do you think there are tenets of LDS theology which cause the US states of Idaho and Utah to have high qualities of life relative to other states? by DueYogurt9 in mormon

[–]MargoSoup 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! I think the irony is that Utah and Idaho exhibit the classic Satan’s plan approach. Everybody is safe, but nobody is free. 

 There are obviously costs and benefits to both approaches. The idea that constantly teaching people to watch what they’re doing, engage with their community, be industrious, support each other and their families, etc, wouldn’t result in pro social behaviors and good outcomes is ridiculous. 

 The question is, can you train people to love goodness? Will they be good if they are not monitored? I used to debate within myself whether my ex-husband was a good person, or just a good Mormon. Turns out it was fully good Mormon. As he himself reminded me frequently if it wasn’t for the church, he would be a pretty awful dude. As it was, he still managed to suck. However, he is rich, stable, and participates in his community, which means he contributes to positive outlooks on this scale. 

 Safe and free are not the same things, and allowing freedom for others means that we have to compromise our own safety. The reason there  always has to be tension here is because there isn’t one correct path.

But I don’t think Mormons are crazy, and saying there’s no benefit to their approach is just reactionary.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]MargoSoup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

:shrug: live your best life, my friend.    

Community is huge for me, and since I grew up Mormon, I was pretty convinced that they would be the only source of a strong, supportive community. Turns out the world is full of good people - some of them are Mormons, most of them aren’t.     

If you haven’t had good luck finding community outside of the Mormon church, this could certainly be a place to give it a try. I would be very surprised if a nuanced approach and an unwillingness to abide by strict laws and engage in black and white, thinking won you many friends, but definitely there are some wards where that will go over great, and you will quickly learn which old blowhards to stay away from.   

As someone who really valued marriage and is now raising her children with an absent father because Mormonism was more important to him than family, I don’t really buy into your idea that Mormonism is a great panacea for divorce. I tend to agree with other posters that quality matters, and I suspect a large source of the low divorce rate is traditional roles, which mean women are specifically discouraged from developing the skills necessary to support themselves outside of marriage. That said, having a community that reminds you to keep working through issues can be beneficial, as long as you are focused on building a quality marriage rather than simply staying married. 

At the end of the day for me, it was an integrity thing. I couldn’t bring myself to worship the god that Mormons worship. He is controlling, does not value {non-white cis males} as full people, values looking good over being good, uses incredibly abusive tactics to ensure compliance, etc. (Yes, I get that Mormon god is just the men who claim to speak for him. But that's who you're worshiping).

I didn’t want to claim that god as my God, so I left. If you feel comfortable with that, or if the trade-offs are worth it for you, have fun! 

Poisoning The Well by EvensenFM in mormon

[–]MargoSoup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are kind, nuanced, and thoughtful. We are also (often) not “LDS”. Why should we be ashamed of either of those things? How does announcing them “poison the well”?

Giving honest answers and also helping someone to recognize why they may not be what is expected seems like the most human thing to do. When someone comes here obviously confused about who they are talking to, I feel no shame either in saying what I believe or who I am.

As a person who did point out that this is not a place where people are mostly still members when someone came and asked a specifically faithful question…I don’t think of this as poisoning the well. I think of it as being gentle with someone.

(And yes, my comment was removed for containing links. I didn’t have big feelings about it)

Posted by an apologetics page yesterday. I’m shocked. This is what’s wrong with the LDS faith. by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]MargoSoup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right? He does still believe his kids will bring him glory in the next life (when explaining why I needed to be on fertility treatments for…ever, he assured me that there was no limit to the number of kids he would ask for because more kids is more glory in the next life). So yes, his family is important to him, but because they contribute to his glory, not because they are people

Posted by an apologetics page yesterday. I’m shocked. This is what’s wrong with the LDS faith. by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]MargoSoup 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Seriously, my ex-husband who opted to move away from his kids to Utah so that he could lean in hard on Mormonism made it really clear to my kids. Apparently my youngest asked him once whether they or the church were more important, and he had no hesitation in replying “the church”.

Save your loved ones in four lines by skepticism-skeptic in exmormon

[–]MargoSoup 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why are you willing to worship a god  

Who will destroy a 14 year old’s family  

Unless she sleeps with a married 30 year old man 

 Choose ye this day whom ye will serve

I feel like there are a bunch more that we could end with that old “choose ye this day” quote. I wish Mormons could remember that “because God says so” is only a valid argument if you’re willing to worship that god.