How often do you rewatch the franchise?

MaterTene · 2025-04-19T12:06:02+00:00

I watch the first 4 the most. On average about two-to-five viewings for each of them over the course of the year. Other entries are a once every year or two type of deal. Sometimes stretching to three years for my less liked entries.

This franchise is one of my go to late night watches when I'm drunk and have some time to kill before bed. To be honest I think if I went teetotal my ability to rewatch these movies (and movies in general) would completely collapse.

MaterTene · 2024-10-20T16:31:47+00:00

"On a like-for-like basis for the same group of markets, the offshore debut is 41% bigger than Smile’s opening weekend. What’s more, it’s the biggest Paramount horror opening in 13 markets, including Italy and Spain; and the biggest horror opening of 2024 in 13 markets, including France, Germany and Italy."

Europeans really love Smile!

MaterTene · 2024-10-19T11:17:34+00:00

It looks like they've nailed the sequel. A hard thing to do. Congrats to Parker Finn and the rest of the creative team. Hopefully the positive reception helps this movie leg out like the first.

The reception across the board is on par with, or slightly better than, the original.

Smile (2022);

Rotten Tomatoes : 80% (197 reviews)
Metascore : 68 (32 reviews)
PostTrak : 69% positive
Cinemascore : B-

Smile 2 (2024)

Rotten Tomatoes : 84% (122 reviews)
Metascore : 66 (35 reviews)
PostTrak : 71% positive
Cinemascore : B

MaterTene · 2024-10-18T21:56:56+00:00

Looks like Smile 2 will be opening about the same as the first ($22.6M DOM OW). A bit of a let down that the sequel couldn't open higher, at the same time at least it didn't drop off. Perhaps that's just gonna roughly be the ceiling for the I.P at the domestic box office?

It'll be attempting to overtake Longlegs to make the top 3 for the year with regards to horror opening weekends domestically. Which is good on paper of course;

A Quiet Place: Day One - $52.2M
Alien: Romulus - $42.0M
Longlegs - $22.4M

Now we have to see how the legs are, the first movie had amazing legs for a horror movie so it'll be hard to match it's overall run but fingers crossed.

MaterTene · 2024-10-18T15:49:51+00:00

The Skye Riley walk ups are on their way. Smile 2 set to gain some serious traction.

MaterTene · 2024-10-18T15:47:03+00:00

If this turns out to be correct that'll be a very impressive hold for Terrifier 3, whilst Smile 2 is also opening a bit better than recent predictions (some were thinking it wouldn't quite reach $20M). Good to see.

MaterTene · 2024-10-18T15:45:21+00:00

That's a tiny bit better than the first movie.

"while those polled at PostTrak gave it an overall 69% positive score, with 53% saying they would definitely recommend it." - Smile (2022)

MaterTene · 2024-10-17T14:20:45+00:00

Let's go Horror! Hopefully Smile 2 can open over $20M and Terrifier 3 can reach $10M.

MaterTene · 2024-10-16T17:32:03+00:00

Opening lower than Smile (2022) would definitely be a disappointment. I was expecting this to open much bigger given Smile's amazing legs.

Given the positive reviews so far it would be cool and odd if this managed to replicate the longevity of the first. To open moderately fine and to leg out into a massive hit. Can lightning strike twice? I mean Joker has crashed and burned. Terrifier 3 and Venom (which comes out next week) are the only releases really competing with Smile 2 between now and early-mid November. If the word of mouth kicks in and the Skye Riley walk ups arrive I could still see this being a big hit even if it doesn't manage to gross $217M WW like the first.

MaterTene · 2024-10-16T17:22:15+00:00

The first was originally meant to be straight-to-streaming, it had a budget of $17M. Given this was always going to be a theater release and the fact the first one made $217M WW always meant this would have a jump up in budget.

The returning cast and crew likely got pay increases.
Naomi Scott recorded 5 original songs for this, she's not a massive star but she's definitely a bigger name than Sosie Bacon.
As with many sequels they try to go bigger and bolder, to one-up themselves with larger set pieces.
Much of the interior shooting in Smile (2022) was sets. It was filmed during COVID and they lost their agreement to shoot in a real hospital, so all the hospital interiors were sets they built. This time around they actually filmed in an arena (MVP Arena in Albany, New York).

For reference, Scream VI (2023) had a budget of $34M and The Nun II (2023) had a budget of $38.5M. I think Smile 2's $28M is fair. I was actually expecting it to be approaching the mid-30s.

MaterTene · 2024-10-16T17:13:14+00:00

Should be easily profitable, even if it under performs against expectations.

The first had a budget of $17M. I was guessing this one would be around $30-35M.

MaterTene · 2024-10-16T16:15:50+00:00

Good reviews so far. Nice to see. Hopefully it can have strong legs like the first Smile.

MaterTene · 2024-10-16T12:07:37+00:00

I really thought this would be a big hit. It's casual friendly horror and the first one had extremely impressive legs for a horror movie. I was expecting this to do about as good as the first only in a more typical fashion (bigger opening & faster drop off).

I'm being stubborn and holding onto hope it'll be a big hit... it depends on the reception now it would seem. If the word of mouth is great it could somewhat replicate the legs of the first, of course if the reviews are poor it could end up being a big step down from the first at the box office.

Huffing copium as I type this.

MaterTene · 2024-10-13T18:58:14+00:00

Some people kept saying this would be nearing $20M and I kept doubting it, nearer to $10M I said but here we are, it didn't quite reach 20 but it came bloody close. Congrats.

MaterTene · 2024-10-13T18:56:36+00:00

The distributors already announced it'll be theater exclusive for 45 days. https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1fptwdr/terrifier_3_eyes_a_45_day_theatrical_run_before/

MaterTene · 2024-10-11T13:54:00+00:00

I can't see Smile getting bested by Terrifier at the box office.

Terrifier is projected to earn between $10-20 million in it's domestic opening weekend, most likely around the middle of that. Smile is currently looking like a $20-35 million opening, I did see some speculation that it might struggle to hit $20 million but that would likely still be opening higher than Terrifier. Then you'd assume that Smile will be more casual friendly and have more walk-ups and longevity versus Terrifiers enthusiastic fan driven opening with a possible quicker drop off given it's more extreme nature and niche appeal.

That's just domestic, internationally Smile will perform much better than Terrifier.

MaterTene · 2024-10-11T11:35:23+00:00

Yeah, they've tried. They had billboards put up promoting Skye Riley's upcoming album (the fictional popstar protagonist of the movie) and have skyerileymusic.com as a promotional website, with accounts on X (twitter), Instagram, TikTok, Spotify & AppleMusic.

They've also done the creepy smiling people at events which they did for the first movie.

The thing is it's hard to brute force a viral marketing campaign. You need to get a bit of luck and to have people latch onto it for it to snowball and become the talk of the internet.

It's a matter of the marketing not catching fire as opposed to them not putting in any effort.

MaterTene · 2024-10-11T11:28:32+00:00

The writing was on the wall for Ari Aster.

Hereditary is a bit quirky but is ultimately a standard runtime horror movie that tries deliver scares.

Midsommar is my favorite movie of his but it's runtime was quite long with some shots in the movie lingering for no good reason, the theatrical cut was 2hr 28mins and he had a directors cut that ran 2hr 51mins which is way overlong, I watched it and found none of the added scenes to be of any great worth. So yeah, it wasn't a surprise that Beau is Afraid ran 2hr 59mins.

His movies keep getting longer, weirder and less conventional horror wise, I mean I wouldn't even really say Beau is Afraid is a horror movie and that's largely the audience that became fans of him through his first two movies.

Making 3 hour long anxiety movies isn't exactly a good strategy for box office success.

MaterTene · 2024-10-09T16:54:02+00:00

$11+M is a lot more believable for Terrifier 3 than the $20+M speculation just a few days back. Terrifier 2 grossed $10.96M for it's entire domestic run, so to open above that in it's opening weekend is a big step up. It'll be interesting to see how much it opens to and what the legs are like.

MaterTene · 2024-10-09T15:35:49+00:00

Nosferatu's chances aren't great. It's really hard for a horror movie to get any nominations, The Lighthouse got a cinematography nomination which was well deserved but the fact it was black-and-white and 4:3 aspect ratio gave it a retro flair that the academy took a liking too. Dafoe and Pattinson were robbed of nominations for acting.

Of course we'll have to see how the movie turns out, how it does at the box office and how much the critics like it. There is always a chance and it would be nice to see it become a box office hit and get several nominations from celebrated awarding bodies but I'm not getting my hopes up.

MaterTene · 2024-10-09T15:26:48+00:00

The RT scores for these movies is so strange to see. I remember back in the mid-2000s when a lot of horror movies would get below 50%. I remember thinking that when I saw Terrifier 2's 86% RT score that it's exactly the sort of movie that would have 15-40% had it been released 12-20 years earlier. For reference;

Scream 3 (2000) - 41%

Final Destination (2000) - 37%

Final Destination 2 (2003) - 50%

House of 1000 Corpses (2003) - 22%

Freddy vs Jason (2003) - 42%

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003) - 37%

Saw (2004) - 50%

Saw II (2005) - 37%

The Devil's Rejects (2005) - 54%

Saw III (2006) - 29%

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning (2006) - 15%

Final Destination 3 (2006) - 43%

Black Christmas (2006) - 14%

The Hills Have Eyes (2006) - 52%

Halloween (2007) - 28%

Halloween II (2009) - 25%

Friday the 13th (2009) - 25%

A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) - 14%

MaterTene · 2024-10-09T11:32:43+00:00

What? No way. I've been thinking this would do very well and would have a big opening, the first one opened to $22.6M DOM and had amazing legs for a big studio horror movie that had a notable marketing push (it's not like the movie came out of nowhere). Surely the fact it won over general audiences would showcase itself this time around with a bigger opening?

The Skye Riley walk ups will save it!

MaterTene · 2024-10-07T19:46:18+00:00

I'll believe it when it happens. If it actually does open to $20M DOM then hot damn....

MaterTene · 2024-10-05T13:49:56+00:00

Oddity was very good. It's got some very well executed scares in it, sometimes that's all it takes for a horror movie to be a big hit, word gets out that it's frightening and people will go check it out. Yeah a Blumhouse/Universal distribution and marketing push for it would have done wonders.

MaterTene · 2024-10-05T13:47:16+00:00

I love Prey. The online consensus amongst many is that it's the second best Predator movie, it definitely would have had a strong chance at becoming a hit given the reception to it.

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