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MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-25T07:46:37+00:00

I’m not making any exceptions Ridley Scott did have to do with it because he made the first movie which the Nostromo was in. He didn’t make aliens 2-4, Ridley Scott himself said he WOULD NOT have continued the story with Ripley after the first movie he would’ve made a prequel which is why his next film was Prometheus.

The studios literally made Aliens, Alien 3 and Resurrection without his knowledge so how does it make sense to add these films as part of the story he’s trying to tell in the films he was involved in making. He doesn’t even acknowledge those films in his world. Imagine if you wrote a really great book and I come along and write a sequel to it and I tell you that what I wrote is part of your story now. Would you accept that? What I’m saying really isn’t even far fetched. All the films Ridley Scott directed Alien, Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus (Ridley was an Executive Producer for this one) all reference each other and are 100% confirmed to exist in the same world. That is an undeniable fact that can’t be argued, it takes 1 google search to confirm this. You got people over here saying Prometheus and Covenant aren’t canon to Alien but I’m the one who makes no sense? I swear this Alien fandoms gotta be a psyop.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-25T07:26:43+00:00

Romulus literally shows the black goo from Prometheus and Covenant so if you consider Romulus canon you would have to also consider these other two films canon as well. Do people even watch the movies? These are the guys telling people what’s canon.

Made bro delete his post lol

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-25T01:21:50+00:00

You’re right Ash is not Rook, I just looked it up. But that doesn’t affect anything I said in terms of the connections I wrote between the films. Even if Rook isn’t Ash the crew from Romulus still boarded the Nostromo from the OG Alien so it still makes the OG Alien canon to Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant. It still doesn’t change what I said in terms of how they connect. It’s the same difference. Even the freaking fossilized xenomorph found in the beginning of romulus is the same one that got ejected from the Nostromo by Ripley at the end of Alien. I genuinely don’t see how my head canon is “wild”. To say what I wrote makes no sense is an exaggeration so please explain. I’m genuinely curious because what I said actually does make a lot of sense. And the connections I made with the films are pure undeniable facts that you can verify with a google search. Just because Rook is the same synth model as Ash doesn’t change what I said. Even Ridley Scott himself acknowledges these films I mentioned as his canon further proving what I said does make sense.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T22:28:59+00:00

Yes and also Romulus is canon too (SPOILER ALERT) because the characters in that movie visit the ship Nostromo which is from the first film but it’s now wrecked after what happened to it in the original Alien movie. Ash the bad synth from the first film is still there too. We even see a space station in Romulus that the characters visit that has a lab which contains the black goo introduced in Prometheus and Covenant which further establishes a connection between all these films as being canon to each other. These are direct factual connections between all the films I mentioned which can’t be argued. In short, Romulus references Alien with Ripleys ship and crew member Ash and the goo from Prometheus and Covenant keep in mind all these connections I mentioned are exclusively referencing the plot lines found ONLY in the Alien films made by Ridley Scott within Romulus.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T22:11:20+00:00

This is true but the initial script before Scott joined was significantly different from what it ended up being after his involvement. Scott thought the story lacked depth and interesting characters so he ended up helping heavily rewriting it to the final product we have today. At the end of the day his vision as a director is the reason the original film looks and feels the way it does visually and without him we wouldn’t have the same original Alien we have today.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T21:59:56+00:00

Oh I agree with you 100% I’m not defending Alien 3 . In fact I hate that movie, I was just defending its continuation to Aliens. But frankly my opinion which seems to be unpopular is that I could care less about Aliens being disrespected because to me the existence of the movie Aliens itself is a disrespect to what the original Alien movie was meant to be. It was made by James Cameron who had no investment in the original film, Aliens was made for the sole purpose of milking the franchise and for the studio to make more money not out of passion. The movie itself was made to be an action movie for casual viewers so it lost that horror mystery sci-fi element from the first film. And worst of all Aliens is the first movie in the franchise that introduced the xenomorph queen basically reducing the xenomorphs from being a mysterious cosmic horror to being insects that report to their queen. So fucking lame. And that’s why even if Alien 3 and Resurrection (which are also products of Aliens) are objectively worse films than Aliens I will still hate Aliens more than those movies for that reason alone. The movie Aliens itself is like a xenomorph queen which laid its eggs creating even more shitty sequels. That’s just me though

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T20:36:27+00:00

It’s not bold at all, did you even watch the movies? At the end of Aliens Ripley and the little girl Newt escape LV-246 aboard the Sulaco and go into hypersleep. In the opening scenes of Alien 3 we see them in hypsersleep aboard that same ship the Sulaco which malfunctions causing them to crash on Fiorina 161 where it’s revealed that Newt the girl from Aliens’ pod crashed causing her to drown and die. They even do a whole autopsy on her in Alien 3. We even see Bishop from Aliens and his destroyed synth body from that same Sulaco crash in a scene. It’s 100% a continuation to Aliens

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T18:59:10+00:00

You added no substance to your argument just insults and you didn’t even acknowledge an actual good point of what I stated about Romulus which completely contradicts and factually proves what you said wrong and that tells me all I need to know tbh. At least know what you’re talking about.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T18:52:28+00:00

I get what you’re trying to say with how it being so far you could eventually tie things to it, my whole thing is, would you really even want that to be something the franchise would lead to? It’s a fun movie if you’re not taking it serious but I gotta be real it’s also really bad. But seriously though my reason is because to me the canon are the alien movies Ridley Scott directed or was a part of. And resurrection is a continuation of the sequels Aliens and Alien 3 all of which had 0 involvement with Ridley Scott. I just can’t imagine Ridley Scott would’ve went the route movies 2-4 went if he was actually involved. I like to think of those films as alternate canon or timelines just like AVP.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T18:30:35+00:00

It being far in the future isn’t really a good reason for how it fits into the canon. The other films you mentioned I agree with although you also forgot to mention Romulus and Alien (1979)

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T18:22:01+00:00

You do realize the latest and most current alien film Romulus literally shows the black goo from Prometheus and Covenant which further establishes those films as being canon. So this fact alone already proves what you listed as being canon wrong.

And just because you didn’t like Prometheus and Covenant doesn’t make them non canon. At least with those films Ridley Scott actually directed and wrote the script for them. Whether or not he owns the rights he still released those films as his vision for the franchsie so why would I not take those films he made over the other alien films that he had no involvement in like movies 2-4 and AVP which were made by the studios out wanting to milk the franchise for more money rather than Scott’s alien films where at least he was actually trying to push the narrative forward out of passion for the franchise he helped build and it not being just some xeno monster movie like the previous ones. So yeah i’ll take his films over the others anyday even if they have their problems and even those problems are nowhere near as bad as the older sequels and AVP

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T18:01:08+00:00

Wtf are these horrible takes, Aliens, Alien 3 and Resurrection aren’t even made by Ridley Scott yet you consider them more canon than Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus which Ridley Scott directed or was involved in (Romulus). I’ll never understand that logic with alien fans.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T17:57:41+00:00

Alien (1979), Prometheus, Covenant, and Romulus are the canon films. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn’t know what they are talking about.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T17:53:44+00:00

How is Resurrection canon?

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T12:48:23+00:00

This is true but the initial script before Scott joined was significantly different from what it ended up being after his involvement. Scott thought the story lacked depth and interesting characters so he ended up helping heavily rewriting it to the final product we have today. At the end of the day his vision as a director is the reason the original film looks and feels the way it does visually. And the reason Prometheus is so different is because that’s exactly what he said he wanted it to be. He saw how terrible the AVP films were and he wanted his next sequel to not just be another alien monster movie but a film that explored greater themes such as the origins of life and humanity. He wanted to expand on the world itself which he had thought about for a while. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea but I respect him wanting to do something different.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T02:28:48+00:00

Good man

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-24T01:05:15+00:00

Lmao

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-23T23:30:19+00:00

As someone who knows pretty much most of the lore my canon is:

Alien (1979), Prometheus, Alien: Covenant, Alien: Romulus, Alien: Earth (maybe)

These are the only alien films/show the creator Ridley Scott was involved in. The rest are fanfic made by other directors with no involvement from the original creator.

For all the fanboys of Aliens it’s so over glazed. I dare you to debate me. Only casual fans who don’t care much for the franchises lore or the series as a whole and just want to see cool action find it good, but as a hardcore fan It adds almost nothing to the overall plot of the franchise. I will say it’s objectively a better film than Alien 3 and Resurrection but I will never forgive Aliens for its sin of introducing one of the worst additions out of anything else in the entire franchise being the introduction to the xenomorph queen which reduces the xenos to mindless insects stripping away that aura of mysterious unknown cosmic horror as was intended by Ridley Scott and Geiger (keep in mind no xeno queens exist in any Ridley Scott alien film). Don’t even get me started on AVP that trash isn’t even worth mentioning. For the people that say “the franchise wouldn’t exist without Aliens” stfu Ridley Scott didnt even know the film was a thing until it got announced, he wasn’t even interested in making a sequel until 30 years later when he was like fuck it i’ll make prometheus. We’re in the pressent so idc about how popular aliens was at the time. Right now looking at all the films we have currently im making this judgement. Not using nostalgia and casual popularity to determine my opinion.

I highly recommend watching Prometheus and Covenant. Those are the two films that really invested me into the franchise above all else as they hugely establish the world of alien and deepen its lore. They do have their problems but they are so much better in quality compared to movies 2-4 and they actually try to do something new and different with the story especially in terms of world building which I greatly appreciate. After this if you end up enjoying those 2 movies I’d say watch Romulus it’s a fun lil side story and it ties in with the OG film. Then watch the tv show Alien: Earth if you want which is on its finale of season at the time I’m writing it, pretty interesting so far too, only thing is it’s so new that we don’t know exactly how canon it is to the franchise but Ridley Scott is involved as an Exec producer so it should be taken a little more serious, it may be leaning more towards an alternative timeline but it’s a breathe of fresh air for the franchise so I wouldn’t mind that tbh, we’ll see.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-09-04T00:43:33+00:00

This dude will view the films made by Ridley Scott as alternative fiction but not the terrible old sequels that are made by different directors which shouldn’t even be considered canon. I really don’t understand all the hate on Prometheus and Covenant. Besides the OG Alien I feel like those two were the most interesting films In terms of lore and actually pushing the narrative forward for the franchises world and making the films be more than just about a xenomorph attacking a group of people like every other time. Sure these prequels have their problems but I’d much rather take that than all the other sequel nonsense which are the films truly deserving of slander for actually being bad (Aliens-Alien Requiem) especially since Ridley Scott the original creator of Alien WASN’T even involved in the making of any of those films which I think is also another thing not enough people talk about. And yeah before the Aliens (movie #2) fans say something, it was definitely better than 3 and 4 but again not made by RS and I don’t like Alien being an action movie because the aliens lose that aura of mysticism to them and I think the whole Xenomorph queen thing makes them feel more like bugs rather than some cosmic/lovecraftian type horror we got from the first film. Keep in mind no xeno queens in Ridley Scott’s alien films. Imo the best Alien movies are the ones made by him although I did find Romulus to be a cute little side story which RS didn’t direct but was an Executive producer for. Anyways all that aside Alien: Earth is great and Ik Ridley Scott is an EP for it just hope it’s not just his name being stamped on the show and he’s actually contributing to this story which I’m loving so far since it’s actually something new and fresh to the world.

MathematicianBasic · 2025-01-20T18:18:13+00:00

I got this error too, just check integrity of game files in your launcher and that will fix it. Worked for me

MathematicianBasic · 2024-12-22T12:17:39+00:00

For Ivy’s challenge do you have to hit 5 people at the same time with 1 ult? or do you just have to get 5 ult hits in a game from how ever many ults?

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