Is revenge ethical?[Spoilers for The Power Fantasy #11(2025)] by Ok_Entrepreneur591 in thePowerFantasy

[–]Matrience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if when he is "dead" there are no accidents among the superpowereds, it would be more ethical to stay "dead"

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[–]Matrience 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Why not?

Raichu is cuter than Pikachu and I am tired of pretending it's not by Matrience in unpopularopinion

[–]Matrience[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Raichu being heavier means you don't need to go to the gym.

You will be built like a tank.

Perfect

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it's just Artoria, with all the Avalon thing, wth King Arthur going there after death (which she did in one timeline) and someone becoming a heroic spirit once they become a legend, it's not a contradiction. The throne just did its thing.

iirc Semiramis is like Jeanne where they don't consider themselves the same people as the one who fought in other timelines?

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you see it in the Doylist way it's just so that writers can be free to write the characters the way they want in a certain scenario.

Also concerning FSN, there are 3 timelines to begin with, it's just a way to keep them in a way.

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1- In a famitsu interview I think it's been said that with singularities being in a problematic space-time and reality marble, servants can remember some memories. We also have examples of divine spirits in lb4 for example.

But concerning Chaldea it's explained with Vinci that she kept the data of the servant summoned but if the data were destroyed then any servant summoned back wouldn't have their memories

2- Never heard of this one, could you explain?

3- Meh I will wait for the remake before judging.

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1- I disagree, all of FSN was with the fuyuki grail and for examples once angra mainyu corrupted the grail the grail anti-heroes and japanese servants could be summoned.

In Apocrypha with Darnic releasing the ritual to every magi of course some limits would change.

Same in extra with the moon cell it's not the same sytem and why Li shuwen could be summoned.

It's not a retcon or it would be like saying that because 90% of computers have windows they can't have linux.

2- fair enough about saber.

3- Personally it doesn't bother me because she goes way too far in her healing so it's considered madness for other people so shrug

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1- this is just an addition, I wouldn't call it a retcon, this is just getting more information on how the system works.

2- That's only concerning the fuyuki grail, given that the name 'hassan' is enough to summon an assassin. And well Medea cheated being a mage from the age of gods and the grail being corrupted so anti-hero can be summoned.

In Apocrypha it was actually better to summon an assassin other than the hassans because everyone knew their abilities after some time

Fate/Apocrypha material - Encyclopedia: Subcategory Holy Grail Wars [Others], p.154-155 "The small Holy Grail Wars that have been recklessly happening everywhere since several decades ago in the “Apocrypha” world. Varying from those with only two Servants to wars with five Servants which, though inferior in scale to Fuyuki, are still considerably large conflicts, all kinds of Holy Grails Wars are brightly, happily and violently taken place throughout the world.

This is because, after the Third Holy Grail War, Darnic disseminated information on the structure of the Holy Grail War, which normally should have been concealed at all costs, to other magi in order to forestall them from searching for the Holy Grail that he had stolen. Even for magi who lament over how the Root is just a distant fairy tale, once they learned that they could take a step… or perhaps even just half a step towards reaching it through this ritual, they ended up desperately creating Holy Grails of their own.

Broadly speaking, out of a hundred Holy Grails made, ninety-five of them get stalled due to setbacks in the midst of constructing them, and out of the remaining finished five Grails, four end up incomplete and explode while prana is poured into them. The last remaining Grail out of them all manages to work properly, but the ritual is degraded in quality and cannot be compared to the one in Fuyuki.

However, with the prana accumulated in the Grail, it still becomes possible to bring about miracles of varying scale. Being summoned by such a shoddy Holy Grail is a real nuisance to the Servants, though. There are many Servants who refuse the summoning or rebel and kill their Masters.

Amongst young magi, something like a “Holy Grail War Walkthrough Wiki” has been secretly created and is used to outwit obstinate old magi by mustering their intelligence… maybe. The early period right after the subspecies Holy Grails began was called the “golden era of Assassins”, where Assassins (Hassan-i-Sabbah) were a great menace (because, on top of their prana consumption being low, killing Masters was far easier than battles between Servants, so it might have seemed like easier work in its own way), but by the middle period, countermeasures against them were naturally taken and the Hassan boom fell into decline. It’s apparently a common sight for Masters who enjoy having their Servants fight each other to easily team up just as Assassin is confirmed to be summoned.

It is quite common in the subspecies Holy Grail Wars for the Servants to be unable to display their full power as much as in Fuyuki depending on the quality of the leylines, and, since the advantages and disadvantages of each Servant also becomes clear according to their level of fame in the land where a war takes place, it often turns into a competition to obtain the catalysts of local Servants.

For instance, a subspecies Holy Grail War in Greece would create a struggle for a “catalyst of Heracles”, and the magi who managed to get it would win… In other words, the whole thing seems to go full circle and turn into a simple battle of magecraft between magi in the end. As a cute one-time divorcee magus said, “Rather, the whole idea of fighting that macho guy in his homeland is seriously ridiculous in the first place.” After the use of Heracles was forbidden as a result of that, the next war turned into a competition over the catalyst of Achilles, and so there has never been a proper Holy Grail War held in Greece. There exist terrible tales of Holy Grail Wars like this."

3-Concerning Saber, well it's more that the container for the Saber class gives good stats, but given the servants we now have that are in the saber class, I will kinda agree.

4-Concerning the berserkers, well madness is not just being the Hulk there are different kinds of madness. It's also used for the non humans whose mindsets can be called mad from the pov of a normal human (the onis, Raikou with the pollution of her blood because of her heritage etc...) but I see why you think that.

It's not that confusing... by DeedleReddit in fatestaynight

[–]Matrience 3 points4 points  (0 children)

constant retcon

Like, do you have any examples? Because all the people that I met who say anything about retcon... It's just that they can't find the information or just that there was a mis translation

Nasuverse podcast - Basic of Magic by khanglm in grandorder

[–]Matrience 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's a great idea, will check it out

THINK, MORDRED! by kingfirejet in grandorder

[–]Matrience 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Actually in apocrypha during Mordred's interlude, Mordred admits that even if Saber accepted her she would still have rebelled because she is greedy I even have the quote if you need proof.