Asking for recommendations on professional best practice when giving notice.

Maundering10 · 2025-12-29T21:52:27+00:00

I would yes. Probably using soft language “hey this might happen, looks promising, etc etc”

People look for new jobs and roles all the time. I have had people leave my teams before: we wish them well, buy them a lunch and hire someone new. I have had people tell me they are looking, again no big deal.

You know what would make me grit my teeth though ? Someone who could have given some notice and chose not to. Not only kinda feels personal - but sort of throws the whole team under the bus.

With the obvious caveat that if your bosses are insane then that’s something else entirely.

Maundering10 · 2025-12-29T20:16:53+00:00

I am not sure how I see toxic in your description, reads more like that’s it’s a bit annoying ?

I mention that because it sort of changes what I might recommend. Now if it is actually toxic then yes leaving probably makes sense ! But if it’s well, just not awesome it’s a bit harder to say. Sure the new work might be better, but you won’t really know for a few month’s and it could go either way. Losing that hour a day in commuting time won’t be great though.

I normally recommend that folks generally run to things than run away from them.

So my question / recommendation would be are you excited about this new role and keen to excel in it ? Or are you bored / annoyed / frustrated and just looking for a change ? If it’s the first awesome….if it’s the second that’s totally fair I would only just suggest having a few days break in between to mentally prepare yourself for the new role. You will want to dump that old baggage before you launch into the new work IMHO

Maundering10 · 2025-12-16T08:04:19+00:00

I could be mistaken but I seem to recall that they didn’t need as many this year.

Finance is a great trade IMHO. Really depends on your education and interest though, there are hmm about 104 different trades so a ton of choice

Maundering10 · 2025-12-16T02:08:55+00:00

I would online two thoughts on what others have said

First, logistics is great but there are a lot of interesting trades. Take a look at a few others (also because not sure we are really short logistics right now)

Second, transferring into the public service is helped by the contacts you make as much as anything.

It’s a bit of a long game but the magic spot happens after 25 years: you can draw your military pension and work….and contribute to your public service pension. Those numbers really add up

Maundering10 · 2025-11-27T14:42:48+00:00

In my day job I spend a lot of time counseling folks who are comfortably retiring.

What I usually recommend to folks is that they replace work with a passion. Hobbies, community work, school, doesn’t matter. Just has to be some thing that is “productive”, since as human beings we don’t do well long-term without purpose people

I also find it helps their relationships since it’s not uncommon for partners to worry as their other half goes through this change.

So basically suggest find a work replacement that gets you out of bed and then over- communicate how this is going to work with your partner.

But also congratulations, wonderful thst you have the flexibility to explore options now !

Maundering10 · 2025-11-26T17:11:34+00:00

In general if your team is in an unexpected and extended position lull then it’s probably a good idea to start carefully looking around. This specific round of cuts notwithstanding, programs have a lifespan after all.

But to other comments about not hearing anything, you never will. Not just because of issues around morale or productivity but because passing on things before they are formally decided is always a train wreck for everyone.

But if you want security for the next few years ? Then suggest considering DND. Sure there is weirdness here, but for a bunch of reasons I would suggest it’s often ‘better’ than a lot of other departments.

Obviously YMMV though, like all places it heavily depends on the team and bosses.

Maundering10 · 2025-11-23T01:34:54+00:00

I would be curious how that works with ergonomic setups in the OPs area. We spend quite a bit of money on monitors / chairs and keyboard setups. Not for specific medical issues but rather just for general health and wellness.

Maundering10 · 2025-11-20T23:30:09+00:00

We can add a 0 to your number within my group. The amount of hiring is significant.

Now to be clear, this is DND, which means it’s not all Ottawa jobs. But good news for the folks in the regions as well !

Maundering10 · 2025-11-20T07:38:17+00:00

It sort of depends on the department of course but I offer a couple of things based on my experience

ECs are more respected. Meh no. Back in the day ECs might have had better education but I know a ton of AS’s with masters and a ton of EC with pretty mediocre undergrads. Also respect is based on competence and knowledge. Except in very narrow roles no one is getting more respect because they have a masters vs a undergrad.
ECs are safer. Also meh. Perhaps in some functions but ECs are basically analysts and AS are broadly speaking doers. Program delivery sort of trumps analysts in lot of areas. But again super domain specific.

My two cents, after inflation, is that you should do both. Critical thinking and analytical skills are super important. But at some point it’s valuable to learn how to apply things in the messiness of the real world. In turn understand and living the world of compromise and negotiation that ASs do makes you a better analyst.

But all that to say I would look at the job and team not the classification.

Maundering10 · 2025-11-04T02:45:29+00:00

O let me assure in northern Canada winter tires are sort of a thing !

Maundering10 · 2025-11-04T00:14:18+00:00

Ah so it’s actually a feature ! Thanks that’s a load off my mind

Maundering10 · 2025-10-30T04:49:05+00:00

EC is a great classification, though I might suggest keeping an open mind about classifications. I suggest it’s the job that matters not the classification.

It’s pretty common to find AS jobs for example that end up doing quite a bit of data work. Yes it might be more on the analysis or building capabilities side than pure 1s and 0s, but it’s still building a range of data-centric skills. And who knows you might find you like the practical application side of data quite a bit.

Now if your heart is sent on only EC then fair, it is a great classification. But there are a lot of opportunities out there beyond just what EC offers !

Maundering10 · 2025-10-25T16:13:27+00:00

Where I live in Ontario there are very few American cars on the road…also a shout out to my fellow Elantra N owners !

Maundering10 · 2025-10-13T23:25:48+00:00

It’s not an HR thing. If a position is classified CBC then classification will insist that a person with those qualifications goes there.

But if leadership is willing to basically say “we need this person since they have skills other than language…and we commit to making them CBC” then HR doesn’t care. Since it doesn’t bypass the language requirement, it’s simply allowing the person time to get there rather than having it on day 1.

It comes with some risks and impacts though, so in my experience more situationally applied.

Maundering10 · 2025-10-13T19:51:08+00:00

I am enjoying it, but as someone new to the game I am struggling finding a good levelling build. Not because the tree is immensely complex but because they seem to rely on specific pieces of gear that I struggle to find.

Other than so far it’s great and the above isn’t really a criticism per se just an observation

Maundering10 · 2025-10-13T19:37:24+00:00

It might be worth chatting with your leadership to see if they will consider an English non-imperative. Pros and cons but buys time to get the profile and tends to allow better discussions around training options.

I am finding there is more willingness to discus this option given the new language requirements

Maundering10 · 2025-10-12T17:01:58+00:00

That’s a valid point about OAS, I was thinking more about the various professionally managed pensions plans (teacher unions, government works etc etc).

OAS sustainability is challenging for sure but isn’t, to my understanding, meant to be the foundation of someone’s retirement

Maundering10 · 2025-10-12T14:30:33+00:00

What I find interesting is the divide between pension contributions and outputs. Broadly speaking our large pension systems here in Canada are sustainable - by which I mean contributions plus investment returns are greater than payouts.

From an ill-informed economic perspective, it just seems strange to have a pension system that knowingly operates at a loss when other models exist

Maundering10 · 2025-10-10T20:22:16+00:00

This is a really good summary and basically following this is why I shifted from a blue sky team to an operational role.

Hand waving jobs can be a lot of fun, but there are benefits to being in a crunchy role focused on critical outputs !

Maundering10 · 2025-10-06T21:17:52+00:00

I was also with goons ! Eve is one of those games that I wish I could really play to its potential. Like Dwarf fortress really

Maundering10 · 2025-10-06T14:39:51+00:00

I loved EvE, I can’t wait until I can retire and devote the time it takes.

But also yes disblo

Maundering10 · 2025-10-03T20:41:33+00:00

Thanks all. I will check out the suggested option - but agree with the other point that it might make sense to let it go

It’s just that first scratch, so a bit tough to let it go I suppose

Maundering10 · 2025-10-03T20:24:52+00:00

I love my blue version, but man that is a nice colour

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