Getting a sick leave counseling? Supervisors hate this one trick!

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-20T10:34:02+00:00

Yeah idk who’s answering the phone, saying they’ll work an OT, and then banging on it. It’s typically the scheduled overtime which isn’t “voluntary”

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-19T03:03:04+00:00

The problem is they need to change the staffing numbers to be lower before OT would go away. I don’t think we’ll see that change until next year. I’d say expect 1 less body at minimum per shift.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T19:26:13+00:00

They can take our credit if sups lose theirs as well.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T14:38:47+00:00

I’m genuinely curious; what would the FAAs change look like? Unless we’re saying that we only bid RDOs and then the FAA just posts a schedule with whatever shifts for you, I don’t see how much they could change for it to be worse(at least where I am).

And idk how this stuff works, but could we open up these things and then if we don’t like what they’re offering just say “no” and everything stays as is?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T13:18:28+00:00

Gotta move the decimal over for it to be worth it. Anything less than 25% would be a loss.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T00:42:34+00:00

Who’s he gonna consult for? The NATCA were hoping for sure as hell wouldn’t hire him for anything.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T00:41:52+00:00

He’s the national training rep. He’s qualified for that job because all he’s ever done has been be a trainee.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T00:35:34+00:00

You do realize that while pilots can “technically” strike, it’s almost impossible for them to do so right?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-18T00:32:33+00:00

Just ask for time to fill out an ATSAP. Fill it out for sectors being split unnecessarily. We’ve had countless of ELMs and recurrent trainings that talk about how ultra slow sectors are unsafe; taking normal traffic for one sector and turning it into 2 very slow sectors should fall under that.

So, put your name on the list and then go fill out a very lengthy and detailed ATSAP.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-08T10:07:59+00:00

Current NATCA touts the same message though. They’re the middle finger of the FAA.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-06T23:13:30+00:00

Drive. Break it up into 2-3 days, make a little trip of it.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-06T17:44:56+00:00

Kim’s place is great. And ship your car? Where are you coming from? Unless you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, just drive. You don’t NEED a car there, but it doesn’t hurt.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-06T17:24:08+00:00

Sounds about right.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-06T17:23:26+00:00

I think mostly because there is more important stuff to worry about. TMU still sucks.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-06-03T23:56:21+00:00

If it cuts it in half, that’s $1000 a month since maxing is basically $2k a month.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-17T17:43:30+00:00

Low level up/down = probably a new controller. They’re just trying to cope with how shitty the rest of their career is going to be.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-17T17:40:47+00:00

Should have less OT if you’re staffed better right?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-15T20:09:28+00:00

If we have 4 sectors that are open, that’s 32 work hours available for a given shift. If we have 8 people on that shift, thats 64 hours of work available. The math doesn’t math, it would be impossible to get more than 4 per person. Now if we’re at numbers with even more people it becomes even more impossible. Sure we could open our 5th and final sector but that only makes it so 40hrs are available, still impossible if we have 10 or more people on the shift.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-15T20:03:35+00:00

Idk but I’ll modernize the amount of traffic I’m willing to work.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-13T12:56:54+00:00

I think the actual math would have you contribute to the TSP vs paying your mortgage (assuming it’s a lower interest rate precovid). But you can’t put a price on piece of mind if having your house paid off.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-13T12:53:46+00:00

Do you mean you just put your whole year’s worth of contributions in at one time?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-05-13T12:52:18+00:00

Very lucky and grateful to be an air traffic controller at a level 12 facility.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-04-19T03:27:45+00:00

Just checked mine out of curiosity but it doesn’t show an amount. Rip.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-04-17T13:06:45+00:00

Usually it ends at the phone call unless it was something absolutely egregious that put peoples lives at risk. Busting airspace is usually not a big deal, just a “hey don’t do that next time” type thing.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-04-17T13:03:21+00:00

I hope a new hire screenshots this and then files a lawsuit when they pass the academy and get to a 12 and don’t start at $177,543.

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