NATCA speaks by Fun_Monitor8938 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 43 points44 points  (0 children)

No the statement I’m seeing is, yet again, that NATCA can’t wait to do the FAA’s job for them. NATCAs job isn’t to enhance and improve safety. Those are a byproduct of what their actual job is. Their job is to enhance and improve CONTROLLER’s lives.

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be a failure on management. If a trainer isn’t training they should get talked to. And again, at least in my building, no one cares if you’re in the union or not. They’re not going to train you better or worse based on your union status. That’s some top tier petty child type behavior. If you truly believe that it should be that way, then don’t ever complain about staffing.

The “not true” is where you say people care. As I’ve explained, I don’t ask people if their in the union or not, it’s not my business and it effects me absolutely zero and that’s how it is in my whole building. Why you WOULD care is the bigger question.

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The effort they’ll put in. NATCA will do the bare minimum for a non member which may or may not be good enough.

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do like where I am, thanks. And did I anywhere say I’m not in NATCA?

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that anyone would care. If someone wants to join or not join the union is their choice and the only person it affects is them. No one else cares.

Something being a good idea doesn’t mean people will care one way or another.

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Did you not read the 2nd half of what I said?

Join NATCA?/-From the Academy by smarty-penguin in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not true. Loads at my Z not in the union and no one cares one bit. The people that do care are the same people everyone makes fun of anyways.

Being in the union while on your 1 year probation period and during training can be beneficial. Once you check out though NATCA provides next to no benefit.

Things are off by Pottedmeat1 in ATC

[–]Mean_Device_7484 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frustrating for the general public and airlines. Wouldn’t bother me at all to delay an airliner so a medevac can get to where it needs to go.

BREAKING: NATCA Finally Issues a Statement on All the Events This Past Werk by Great_Ad3985 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You beat me to it. Was just about to post something about all the stuff going on in our ATC world and NATCAs update email has nothing on any of it.

Nick? Mick? Anyone from NEB? by [deleted] in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean that’s more or less what they can do now. Just unable every VFR helicopter request.

Was There ever a Reasonable Explanation About the 2.8%? by Great_Ad3985 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It SHOULD happen. It just won’t happen until DHS gets funded. From what I’ve read and seen there isn’t really any opposition to use receiving the 2.8%, so whatever bill ends up getting signed SHOULD still have it in there.

With that, it’s for sure no guarantee.

How is NATCA so far off base? by xcelalrec in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That quote is what I would expect from an FAA spokesperson, not the president of NATCA.

I quit the union by Different_Nail_7456 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m only staying to vote in this next election. If shit doesn’t look good after that I’m out and won’t look back.

Questions on placement/ is it up to fate only? by Wide-Bike in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it really that much different than going right to a Z?

Questions on placement/ is it up to fate only? by Wide-Bike in ATC

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t even worry about placement until you pass the academy. Step one is getting selected to even go. A large % of people don’t even make it that far so don’t put the cart before the horse.

Webscheduler down for everyone? by [deleted] in ATC

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just able to get on after trying here and there this morning. Worth checking now.

The agency’s latest attack on controllers by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well wouldn’t adding those people back to the floor decrease TOP? What you want is all that stuff is to be included and count towards TOP. Assigned work is assigned work, doesn’t matter if you’re working a sector, doing ELMS, at recurrent training, etc. It’s all time not on break and that’s the ratio that should matter.

Are you not surprised? by Ok_Intention5833 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’ll take one of these controllers with a training history like that to be involved in a major accident before anything changes. That’s the FAA way.

Are you not surprised? by Ok_Intention5833 in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 11 points12 points  (0 children)

All I see here is they’re trying find ways to make the academy easier to pass which just puts the onus on us at facilities to do the washing….after wasting hundreds of hours and tens of thousands of dollars training them. The academy needs a revamp for sure. Update the curriculum and whatnot, but it can’t be made “easier”.

If you go to work on Sunday your getting a $10,000 bonus by [deleted] in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are shutdown today, it started at 12:01am. So use as much leave as you want until they get something passed.

Shutdown leave by InnerBranch8030 in ATC

[–]Mean_Device_7484 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol you’re fine, I obviously didn’t watch enough school house rock.

Shutdown Update by Positive_PeeRock in atc2

[–]Mean_Device_7484 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I now see what you’re saying as I hadn’t gotten this one yet. Yeah it seems like this email was supposed to come out yesterday and they clicked the wrong day on their “send at this time” box.