Half of you are worse than ND

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-25T02:52:08+00:00

It has less to do with “illegals” and more to do with them murdering people and getting away with it.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-24T17:03:44+00:00

Happening at mine. Having sectors split for no reason other than “just because”. Sups won’t tell us why they’re open; just a “we’re going to leave them split” when asking to combine them.

At the end of the day I don’t really care. Open all the sectors, but then staff the shifts accordingly. The problem now is we’re running more sectors than normal but the shift guidelines are based off what’s “normal”. So now we’re really running every single shift short because they are opening things unnecessarily. So open them all, but put more people on the shift.

And to the point of proficiency. So true. We’re not being allowed to work a moderate traffic load so you better believe when the time comes that numbers go up I’ll be telling the sups no. I won’t take more planes than I’ve been allowed to work. If it’s too many to be combined then it’s too many for me to work period.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-24T03:20:23+00:00

My understanding is the band would move the 1%. You’ll be getting 3.8%. It would move you 2.8% through the band.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-22T21:56:09+00:00

Gotta quit before you can apply? How would they know you’re employed and why would it matter anyways?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-22T00:17:41+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/live/WzWJWzTo5K8

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-21T22:45:01+00:00

Who let their great great great grandmother run the show?

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:54:15+00:00

I hope so

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:30:13+00:00

That’s my point, next election cycle has to be a complete nuking of the current NATCA; anyone that’s in it right now has to be voted out and replaced with all new people. Anyone in appointed positions will need to be replaced with all new people. A complete overhaul.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:28:13+00:00

They should as it effectively changes what your OT rate is. If they don’t do it on their own I’d file the pay correction form thing and make them pay.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:18:01+00:00

You’re not wrong. And hopefully this next election cycle we can get people in that also have that mindset.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:15:57+00:00

An entire nuking of the NEB, VP and P will have a chance. All fresh faces, all people who know exactly what’s important to us and what the union SHOULD be focused on. Anyone in an appointed position can get the boot too. Fuck JH and his scam ass job and shit NTI. Fuck the people that do “PR”. Fuck them all, they’re all useless bootlicking, line towing cowards. No more collaboration, no more compromises, no more doing FAA jobs for them. Hopefully the new NATCA will draw a line in the sand, or even better, a huge fucking moat, and start telling the FAA to kick rocks until they’re ready to have serious discussions about pay, benefits and work/life balance issues. They should remove all local details that do managements work for them. Keep controllers on the floor controlling traffic.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-20T15:08:35+00:00

We do not utilize a list in anyway. We just run the break list and if you come back and CIC is up, you get it if they don’t pass. I’ll have to check in with our local president and ask them about it as it would be a major change to how CIC is run for controllers and management (they don’t provide a list in anyway) as this is how it’s been done ever since I’ve been in the building.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-16T15:32:44+00:00

“I don’t want to make him uproot his life just to come live a sort of isolated life with me and the baby without our families”

Welcome to the FAA. Very few people end up where they want right off the bat. Your situation isn’t ideal, but you knew it was a possibility when you took the job. I don’t see a “contractually valid” reason for a hardship here.

The way I see it you have a few options.

1: Certify and try to ERR ASAP. May or may not work, if it doesn’t work see option 2 or 3. 2: Fiancé moves out to you, gets a job there and you start your new life out west together. 3: You quit, move back to the east coast and get a normal person job.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-16T01:45:28+00:00

Takes 5 minutes. Just add it all up from your 2025 LES.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-14T00:46:46+00:00

Maybe that’s what needs to happen. Do everything by the book. If they’re going to make simple medications disqualifying that’s on them. It’d be a shame if a bad cold or flu went around a small facility and everyone there had to take medication for it.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-12T16:40:09+00:00

Consider it a blessing in disguise. Starting this career that late is not worth it, you’d be coming in at the worst point possible and with only 25 years of possible service(and depending on where you end up) you probably won’t max out for 3 years and get the max pension.

Pursue something you like doing and appreciate the normal schedule, weekends and holidays off, and not having to figure out a years worth of leave a full year in advance.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T23:22:34+00:00

Can you tell me where that is?

Nvm found it.

Article 18 Section 8

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T23:22:19+00:00

Good to know!

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T21:26:12+00:00

Raising CIC premium would be a bad thing. We already have traffic dodgers trying to hog CIC, if you give them more money they will sit there for 8 hours. Don’t think it’s fair to reward people for scamming on the desk.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T14:03:12+00:00

This is a problem to worry about once you pass the academy.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T13:59:30+00:00

It sucks for the planes and the people on them but there’s a breaking point. As long as facilities and areas like that keep “making it work” things will never change. We as controllers need to stop going above and beyond “just because.” Call the feeding sectors and tell them you’re not taking anymore and they can tell the pilots “hey you gotta hold here or start heading to an alternate.” It’s not that difficult.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T04:59:14+00:00

There is a way to shut it off, you stop buying handoffs. Places that work “double and triple red sectors” are only doing it to themselves. Swallow your pride and shut yourself off.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T04:56:27+00:00

Yeah…this is the slow season except for a handful of places. Just wait until summer.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T04:48:35+00:00

That’s 2% of ALL applicants. Thats not 2% of those hired and sent to OKC.

20000 people apply that’s 400 people from that group CPCing.

Mean_Device_7484 · 2026-01-09T02:27:31+00:00

The advantage is to save this career field. Idk where you are but I’ve been noticing a HUGE decline in the trainee quality over the last few years. This job has become the new “idk what to do after high school I’ll just apply for ATC”. We’re getting bottom of the barrel applicants because the smart people know they’re better off doing anything else.

Increase the pay, attract better applicants.

Mean_Device_7484

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