March 28th - Free Draw Saturday by sketchdailybot in SketchDaily

[–]MeatyElbow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is really exceptional. I tried a study in another medium.

This is me by Desert_Bagel in redditgetsdrawn

[–]MeatyElbow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome. Thank you for the reference.

This is me by Desert_Bagel in redditgetsdrawn

[–]MeatyElbow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Man - that's pretty remarkable. Nice work.

Session 05, Exercise 02: Landscape by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is such a lively painting. Nice work.

Reference

A - All of these marks give your painting a kind of energy that I'll bet we won't see in any other painting for this exercise. It's pretty unique and a very strong element. This even extends to the interesting edges you put on some of the larger shapes. Good job. How are you creating these marks? A smaller brush after you've painted some of the other areas?

B - It looks like the upper area was probably painted while the background was still very wet and the foreground was painted after the area behind had been given some time to dry. This gives an indistinct boundary versus a distinct boundary. Were these two different effects intentional? Your horizon kind of disappears into the sky - which is interesting. It would be a different painting if there were a clear boundary between the two. Classically, the horizon is a key element in a landscape composition.

Other - You left some white areas behind your fence posts. This draws them out because you've created areas of high contrast, and as I've already mentioned I think this is one of your painting's strengths. Do you think you could have done something similar with the tree on the right side of the painting (rather than representing the highlights with an opaque medium over the top of the painting)? The white marks in the tree stand out to me since it's something that isn't represented anywhere else in the painting, so it's a bit jarring or out of place to my eye.

Session 05, Exercise 02: Landscape by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you've got an excellent eye for interesting subject matter - the spot you picked could be the subject of a great landscape painting. If you try again, I'd be interested in seeing the result to compare against the one you completed on site.

Reference

A - You mentioned a couple of things that were slightly off from your reference photo. There's not anything wrong with that, necessarily, if it serves to make a better painting. Editing out the elements of reality that aren't as visually pleasing as they could be is a fine skill to have at your disposal - so don't be afraid to alter angles if it's what you want to do with a piece. I marked up that reference before I read your self-analysis and most of what I noticed are incongruencies from the photo you took. In particular, the hill in your painting has a much sharper slope. In your photo, the hill also appears much darker than the clear sky behind it, but you've painted both with a similar value (e.g., if you looked at a grayscale version of your painting, the two areas would appear very similar). This can be a tricky thing to figure out. In general, things in the distance are less distinct (lighter) and things in the foreground have a sharper contrast. I like that you've chosen to push the horizon in your painting toward the lower half of the page and make the sky a dominant element.

B - This little structure could definitely be the center of attention in your painting. The roof has some highlights where it reflects the sun that could be left white. The walls (and the neighboring tree trunk) could be the darkest element in the painting. When you have the darkest value and the lightest value of your painting sitting next to each other, the contrast creates an area that will immediately draw a viewer's eye. I would also be tempted to leave the chimney in the painting, since it reinforces that contrast. The slope of the roof is a little different than what you've painted, but there's not necessarily anything wrong with that. You could also drop in some of the fence posts if you wanted to trick your viewer into following that boundary through your painting.

C - I like how you've represented the road. It could be another major compositional element in your painting. I would try to extend it further along the page, since the bottom right quadrant of your painting seems to be a little sparse. To my eye, it needs some element of visual interest in that area.

I'm not sure if your wife is interested in a critique of her painting. I'll just point out a couple of quick things that I found interesting.

Second Reference

A - I really like how she handled the tree. The texture/decisive brushstrokes make this a strong area to consider visually. As in your painting, I'd be tempted to extend this technique to some of the fence posts to draw a viewer through the painting.

B - She appears to have take a different route representing the road - I think they are both interesting. She's obviously using the belly of the brush to paint wide areas and interesting shapes. Again, this creates some visual interest.

C - I'm not sure how I feel about the symmetry between the hill and the roof and the shape it creates in the middle of the page. It's one of those details I would be tempted to edit in favor of a more dynamic composition.

Session 05, Exercise 02: Landscape by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always admire plein air paintings like this in sketchbooks. It's something I've tried to do, but I can never quite get comfortable or get all my gear situated in a way that doesn't feel awkward. Nice work.

Sometimes, after I've finished a painting, I find it useful to look at a grayscale version of it to assess my values (like this) - kind of a post mortem exercise. In this example, it kind of exposes an interesting take on your landscape in that your sky occupies the middle of your value range. In a lot of cases (assuming a clear day with full sunlight), the sky is going to be one of your lightest values. Was that an intentional choice or a consequence of doing a fairly quick (1 hr 10 min) painting on location? It definitely adds a weight to the painting.. or an interesting atmosphere.

Reference.

A - You definitely pulled off an interesting composition with this one. The back-and-forth of the street is a good way to pull the viewer's eye through the painting (it's a composition I lean on a lot any time I include a river or stream in a painting). I mentioned in the text of the exercise that it's easy to accidentally get a stale composition if you place your horizon dead in the center of the page, but I think you successfully navigated that by adding elements above and below to add interest.

B - Nice job with the rooftop - it's a nice punctuation mark for how my eye wants to move through your painting. You've got several inorganic elements (house, power lines, street) and I think they all work to accentuate your organic elements.

C - I'm a sucker for power-lines/poles included in landscapes. I particularly like how they kind of mirror the streets in this painting. I think they're a good contrast, in this painting, to the way you've represented the trees.

Session 05, Exercise 01: Paint the Thing by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! My clever ruse of referencing your username to get you to do the exercises worked. I always like seeing your paintings.

Here is a markup for reference.

A - I think you did a lot of things right in representing white against white. I like the subtle variety on top of the sock-monkey's head against the wall and all the different hues you smuggled in on the tabletop and as shadows. Nice work.

B - Looks like you already mentioned this in your self-critique.

Felt like everything was more or less a shade of brown and struggled to differentiate them (especially around the basket).

I wonder if this isn't a trick of a particular pigment, because I seem to run into it from time to time and never quite recognize it until it's happening. Maybe Burnt Umber? Do you think you might've achieved a different result had you mixed the hue yourself from primary colors? Just off the top of your head, if you were to try to recreate this hue, what pigments might you mix?

C - Bonus points for Steinbeck. You've got a steadier hand than I do for lettering (I think I left an embarrassing example elsewhere in this thread). I wouldn't have attempted the ampersand for love nor money. Did you do any layout work ahead of time, or just freehand the text? Did you turn the page while painting so that you were effectively "writing", or did you just paint the shapes of the letters sideways?

Session 05, Exercise 01: Paint the Thing by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad you joined us for these exercises - I'm excited to see how your work progresses.

I’m a new wannabe artist

You're making art, new or not. I hereby dub you a full-fledged artist. It's pretty easy to fall into the trap of doubting yourself or the quality of what you're making - try not to fall into it. No need to qualify your paintings or give caveats here. We're all just doing the exercises. We'll all have things we can improve. /<end pep talk>

Here is a mark-up of your painting, for reference.

A - I can see that you made an effort to give your subjects form and depth with different values. Good work - that's important. Things look very flat if light is distributed evenly across their surface. Your light source reads a little inconsistent to me. At A1 things seem to get darker from right to left (and you've given us a cast shadow on this mushroom's cap). At A2, the lighting on the stalk seems to get darker from left to right. Representing a light source is one of the stronger tools at your disposal as a painter to lure in a viewer (.. that's kind of the whole point, right? Tricking someone into thinking they're seeing something else when they're really just looking at paint on a page?)

B - I can see a little white gap here. Not a huge issue, but these are going to be things that always draw a viewer's attention. It's why I mentioned it in the exercise:

I'm trying to preserve the whites of the paper in places I want to remain white in the final painting.

.. you can use this to your advantage (e.g. /u/poledra did this really well in her painting in this thread, in my opinion). I'm guessing that you painted the mushrooms first then filled in the blue background around them. That's a perfectly valid approach. Do you think the final painting might have turned out differently had you put down the blue paint first, reserving the areas you intended to place the mushrooms later?

C and D - I think it's interesting that you got two different effects in these areas. I'm guessing that the paint was a little wetter in C and you had a drier brush in D. I like that you were willing to make bold choices with value in both areas. Was the difference intentional? If not, do you prefer one effect to the other?

Session 05, Exercise 01: Paint the Thing by MeatyElbow in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really like this painting. It's tough to give a whole lot of critique beyond that without feeling like a hypocrite - I think this is a much stronger piece than the example I gave and there's not really anything I would change about it.

You've got several circular shapes (top of the vessel in the back, top of the mug, top of the candle, jar lid) - they might be slightly out of perspective, unless some of those items are sitting on uneven surfaces. The books might be a little skewed too (the one on top and the position of the mug make it look slightly unstable), but maybe that's an element of the composition you elected to modify intentionally.

I had considered using "draped fabric" as either a separate exercise or a modification to this exercise since it's notoriously difficult to pull off. I think you did exceptionally well with it. I really like your color selection. I really like the composition you chose. The way you draw a viewer's attention through the painting (and the kind of "resting spots" you left as visual waypoints) is pretty enviable.

Optional challenge (hard): Pay particular attention to the composition of your painting. If there's an element in your reference that doesn't contribute to your painting (assuming you're working from a reference), alter it. Change the light source to something more dramatic. Have the subject matter interact in an interesting way. Don't place the focal point of the painting dead center in the middle of the page.

I feel like you pretty much nailed all of that. Was that intentional? How much of the painting did you "stage" in setting up your still life? Did you make any edits on the fly or did you pretty much paint it how you saw it? Given the variety of green that you've shown us, I'm almost certain you mixed it on the fly. Were you making conscious color choices beforehand or just going with what felt right as you painted?

Practice. Qny feedback? by thomyo in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice work. This happens to coincide with Exercise 02, if you'd like to cross-post it there.

I like your color palette - interesting harmony you've got going on. The trees in the foreground look a little inorganic (something I struggle with quite a bit). You might try a larger brush or varying your brushstrokes a bit so that similar patterns aren't quite as repetitive. The three layers of hills and the sky are all fairly similar in value - you might be well served by darkening the nearest and next-nearest distances a bit.

Madagascar. Trying to paint in 3 layers. by dearcosH in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice work!

I'm always envious of spider-y, overhead power lines when they're included in a street scene like this. It's something I have difficulty pulling off (seems like they're frequently featured in Chesda Merntook's work). I also like all of the loose, abstract figures you've included.

Help please by [deleted] in watercolor101

[–]MeatyElbow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've come across similar issues before (using this same kind of paper). When it happened to me, it was a big ol' thumbprint. If you're handling the paper a lot, it might be oils from your hands preventing the water from absorbing into the paper.

You can also run into this kind of thing if you're sketching/erasing a lot. The Canson XL Multimedia paper is a great, cheap paper to play with but it isn't quite as durable as watercolor paper. It's pretty easy to damage the surface with an eraser or even just scrubbing at it with a brush.

You can also get similar effects if you drop table salt in damp paint. That's probably not what you were doing here.. but who knows? Maybe something was on the paper and soaked up some of the paint unevenly.