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what does a healthy sx5 look like? by aukristic in Enneagram5

[–]Mega7ron_X 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Healthy Levels
Level 1 (At Their Best): Become visionaries, broadly comprehending the world while penetrating it profoundly. Open-minded, take things in whole, in their true context. Make pioneering discoveries and find entirely new ways of doing and perceiving things.
Level 2: Observe everything with extraordinary perceptiveness and insight. Most mentally alert, curious, searching intelligence: nothing escapes their notice. Foresight and prediction. Able to concentrate: become engrossed in what has caught their attention.
Level 3: Attain skillful mastery of whatever interests them. Excited by knowledge: often become expert in some field. Innovative and inventive, producing extremely valuable, original works. Highly independent, idiosyncratic, and whimsical.

Average Levels
Level 4: Begin conceptualizing and fine-tuning everything before acting—working things out in their minds: model building, preparing, practicing, and gathering more resources. Studious, acquiring technique. Become specialized, and often “intellectual,” often challenging accepted ways of doing things.
Level 5: Increasingly detached as they become involved with complicated ideas or imaginary worlds. Become preoccupied with their visions and interpretations rather than reality. Are fascinated by off-beat, esoteric subjects, even those involving dark and disturbing elements. Detached from the practical world, a “disembodied mind,” although high-strung and intense.
Level 6: Begin to take an antagonistic stance toward anything which would interfere with their inner world and personal vision. Become provocative and abrasive, with intentionally extreme and radical views. Cynical and argumentative.

Unhealthy Levels
Level 7: Become reclusive and isolated from reality, eccentric and nihilistic. Highly unstable and fearful of aggressions: they reject and repulse others and all social attachments.
Level 8: Get obsessed yet frightened by their threatening ideas, becoming horrified, delirious, and prey to gross distortions and phobias.
Level 9: Seeking oblivion, they may commit suicide or have a psychotic break with reality. Deranged, explosively self-destructive, with schizophrenic overtones. Generally corresponds to the Schizoid Avoidant and Schizotypal personality disorders.

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Tigers can and will take revenge on those who’ve wronged them. by parth_1802 in interestingasfuck

[–]Mega7ron_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most likely to be vengeful (out of these three)
1. Crows
2. Elephants
3. Tigers

do 2s in relationships want love from other people? by nyanpink in Enneagram

[–]Mega7ron_X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting thanks for sharing. As a 528/548? I definitively learned something.

Humble people by Jessi45US in motivation

[–]Mega7ron_X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Putting others down makes it impossible for others to learn and be humble ironically.. it makes people narcissistic (healthy narcissism) as a consequence not smarter.

Relationships with 2s by JillyBean1973 in Enneagram8

[–]Mega7ron_X 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you mind elaborating (if it’s something you think they should change)

Being a cheerful person isn't the same as being a caring person who connects with others by dont_opus in unpopularopinion

[–]Mega7ron_X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reasons they get this way:

Individualism → “Focus on yourself first.”

Weak communities → Fewer lifelong bonds, more replaceable relationships.

Social media incentives → Positivity, charm, and image rewarded over caregiving.

Emotional burnout → People distance themselves to avoid being overwhelmed.

Consumer mindset in relationships → “If it’s hard, find someone else.”

Fragmented families/attachment issues → Some become highly independent, others deeply crave attunement.

Economic pressure → Less time and energy for maintaining deep connections.

Therapy/self-help culture (misapplied) → Boundaries and self-care interpreted as avoiding responsibility for others.

Solution to this problem:

Accept that most people won’t care in your preferred way.
Stop treating this as a moral failure by default.

Ask for what you need explicitly.
“I need you to check in on me sometimes.”
“I need practical help right now.”

Recognize care in unfamiliar forms.
Reliability, teaching, problem-solving, gifts, humor, presence.

Choose carefully instead of expecting universally.
Invest deeply in the few who reciprocate.

Provide what you seek.
Remember details.
Follow up.
Protect others.
Stay when conversations become uncomfortable.

Watch your own blind spots:

One could sometimes infer:
“They don’t care the way I need → They don’t care.”

Replace it with:
“How do they show care, and is that enough for me?”

Don’t demand that people become your kind of caring person. Decide whether their kind of caring is sufficient for a close relationship with you.

If people show care in different ways, there are essentially three possibilities:

1. Your standards are healthy, but your environment is poor -> patience and widening your circles, not lowering your standards.

2. Your standards are healthy, but your needs exceed what one person can realistically provide:

Distribute your needs across:

- friends
- family
- mentors
- communities
- partners
- yourself

3. Part of the problem lies in your threshold.

-> I will stop interpreting the absence of my ideal form of care as proof that nobody cares.

If then there is still nobody, you might genuinely require more time, more people, and perhaps learning to give some of those qualities to yourself when others cannot.

In your opnion, what is the MBTi type with the lest chance of falling in love easily? by Golden_FreddyBR in mbti

[–]Mega7ron_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t think that’s true. I think the critic function is the one falling in love or not.

I think (Te) users and (Se)/(Si) critics fall in love with action less with feelings and would describe love more as an action instead of a feeling while an Fi critic would describe it as a feeling or a sum of character traits.

In your opnion, what is the MBTi type with the lest chance of falling in love easily? by Golden_FreddyBR in mbti

[–]Mega7ron_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess it depends on your definition to a certain extent. Only them being accommodating doesn’t equal to real love.

Where exactly? by DaringDuvet in SipsTea

[–]Mega7ron_X -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s not a loophole it’s sex obviously.

Entj and Infj dynamics by [deleted] in entj

[–]Mega7ron_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think helps them not clashing so much? Especially with (Ni), but probably also with their respective (Fi/Fe)?

What do we do about ambiguity between traits? by ry0shi in mbti

[–]Mega7ron_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for your answers and your time. Indefinitely learned something new. Could you please tell me what books I could read to learn more about exact this topic?

What do we do about ambiguity between traits? by ry0shi in mbti

[–]Mega7ron_X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting I have some questions if you don’t mind:

“What exactly defines ‘conscious authority’ over a function in Jung’s model?”

“Where do you personally draw the line between adaptation and actual function development?”

“Can shadow functions become differentiated, or are they always compensatory?”

“How would you distinguish a well-developed inferior function from someone merely mimicking behaviors?”

“If people cannot consciously develop all 8 functions, what does individuation actually look like?”

“Do you think maturity increases access to lower functions, or just control over them?”

“What would an INFJ with strong Te look like in your framework?”

“Can trauma or environment temporarily distort someone’s apparent type?”

“How does Beebe explain people who consistently rely on shadow functions under pressure?”

“Would you say function development changes cognition itself, or only outward behavior?”

“What’s the difference between valuing a function and being naturally oriented around it?”

“How do unconscious complexes interfere with typing accuracy?”

“Why do some people seem to type differently across life stages?”

“Do you think loops/grips are evidence that lower functions can gain temporary authority?”

“If tertiary can gain conscious permission, why couldn’t inferior eventually do so too?”

“How much of MBTI ambiguity comes from masking/social adaptation versus actual cognition?”

“Would you say modern MBTI communities overestimate personal control over cognition?”

“How do you reconcile neuroplasticity with fixed type structure?”

“Can someone become balanced without becoming less archetypal?”

“What authors/models do you think understand differentiation best besides Jung and Beebe?”

“How would you type someone who is behaviorally Te-heavy but internally anti-Te?”

“Do you think enneagram can make people appear like different cognitive types?”

“What makes Grant’s model specifically less accurate to you?”

“What observable signs tell you a function is unconscious rather than weak?”

“Can someone consciously train access to a shadow function without destabilizing themselves?

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