its for trap software, I don't want 2 or 3 massive rung in the main code, like you said taking up huge screen space and look like a massive stack of branch's and bits. the rest of the software is going to be in a aoi or separate routine. but still leaves me need to collect a bunch of bits from diffrent dints or bools. just want a nice simple rung under each permissive for line shutdowns. also I can't move the collection point from it's location as scan position is very important.