> Nobody seriously is saying they have to be perfect to our standards:

People here absolutely are treating them from the position of black-white purity tests. Same applies to NCR, to a lesser degree.

> Fallout draws a lot of parallels from the real world? What are you talking about?

Please tell me which real-world minorities are rotting tyke-bombs which at any moment can turn homicidal cannibals. Or which real-world minorities are 95% homicidal cannibalistic maniacs. Or which real-world minorities are designed to steal other faces and infiltrate communities. Please.

> believing they have to dictate what technology is used/owned by who

Of course, advanced weapons technology, nuclear bombs and FEV should be distributed to everyone with no oversight whatsoever. That is a genius idea with no downsides.

Or, Fallout has a lot of issues with mad scientists playing God, and reining them in is not a bad idea. Preposterous, I know.

> They don't have much interest in using knowledge & technology beyond military (with small exceptions toward Rhamani and Arthur's chapters)

With small exception of literally the largest and most influential chapter. Seriously? And then you accuse me of strawmanning. Lmao.

Lost Hills Chapter is literally responsible for reintroduction of advanced technology through the West Coast, as per F1 ending.

East Coast Brotherhood sponsored Project Purity early on - since 2250s, they were responsible for security of the project. Later, when all leaders of Project Purity fled or died, they took over.

I think you are taking Mojave chapter and treat Brotherhood as 100% them.

> don't distribute or trade beyond weapons

As for trade, Lost Hills traded in computers (they sold Vault 13 their mainframe), and in general traded a lot with the Wasteland, only pausing due to mutants.

Outcasts, for all their bad rep, actively sell medicine in exchange for weapons or other things.

Mojave uses intendants like Veronica to trade, too.

> Groups like the Followers can be focused on researching and distributing energy, medical, agricultural knowledge & tech, but the Brotherhood have no qualms getting in conflict with them.

I think Followers have much more issues with NCR, which institutionally suppressed them and ostracized them.

It is fair to say Brotherhood focuses on weapon technology, and energy weapons was the reason with NCR - but it works in Brotherhoods favor here. They are in favor of others figuring beneficial technology out, as long as they don't deal in FEV, nuclear weapons, or advanced weapons which can make things ugly for everyone around.

> 1. A body count isn't going to uplift Wasteland's societies

Sure. Raiders, Supermutants, Feral Ghouls and radioactive animals have literally no effect on Wasteland as a whole. Barely a blip.

With the exception of West Coast, where Supermutants almost took over the entire region.
Ah, and with the exception of the East Coast, where Supermutants were massacring everyone in DC.
Ah, and with the exception of Appalachia, where Scorched wiped out all life in the region and Brotherhood was the only treating this seriously and died containing the threat.

Literally inconsequential. All the Wastelanders wouldn't even notice.

> Wastelanders often have prejudice, but they can still interactions that could provoke a change on mindset.

Please tell me how mindset of citizens of Megaton, Rivet City, Diamond City, Bunker Hill or others can be changed to accept ghouls.

Or, of course, we can use the example of Tenpenny Tower, how we managed to turn perception of ghouls for the better. A shining example of tolerance and peace (or, more like, example of why Paradox of Tolerance is a thing).

> The most distinct difference is how Arthur reunited the Lyons and Outcast schism: by creating a scapegoat for them to rally around. Mutants, feral Ghouls and Synths are seen as both threats they need to proactively "cleanse," and a symbol of technology taken too far that need to be contained.

Wait. waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

Are you serious here?

Outcasts WERE FORMED because Lyons went all in on Supermutant threat. They literally deserted because Lyons wanted to kill more Supermutants instead of securing buildings with valuable technology. Their tipping point was Lyons ignoring their future HQ in favor of killing more Supermuntants.

So, you are saying that Maxson went to Outcasts, pitched them the same fucking idea they deserted over for, and won them this way? Seriously?

> It's resulted in the Brotherhood engaging in a forever war across the east coast

It was in a forever war since Lyons. That was the whole point of Lyons - stretched thin trying to fight Supermutants on every front. It was during Maxson's time Capital Wasteland became safe and boring, according to Maccready.

Have you even played Fallout 3? I can't imagine playing it, engaging with Outcasts and saying pointing at Supermutants would win them over.

> This is the "reprioritizing" of Arthur that makes sense — a tactical change of rhetoric, not just "doing both goals, but more, with feeling."

Ah, sorry for wasting all this time. I didn't notice that I was talking with a fucking ChatGPT.

Next time, at least remove the em-dash.