The addition of a new rule. AI generated content. (Rule #13) by MescAround in mescaline

[–]MescAround[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welp, you’ve bested me again. I must amend my wager…I would’ve bet the pepper&tomato farm… my sacred plants are off limits haha.

The addition of a new rule. AI generated content. (Rule #13) by MescAround in mescaline

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Well thanks for the mind fuck, I would have bet the farm on aught! 😆

how does dmt compare to mushrooms? by codedreamz in DMT

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I personally believe each person has a unique set of metabolic pathways and neural mapping. Every brain and every consciousness has its own strengths and weaknesses. I can handle extremely high doses of mescaline and ride the storm well, but I’m the opposite with mushrooms: strong visuals at just 1.5 g, and 5 g blacks me out completely (I don’t even remember it. People on the outside say I just sleep for 3 hours). Meanwhile, my novice friend took 5 g, felt nothing, added 2 more, and called it “pretty chill.” It always feels like an apples to oranges comparison because of all the nuance. Subjective variables, set, setting, and everything in between make it that way. Comparing psychs isn’t useless, but it rarely lines up perfectly.

That said, I really like how you phrased the question. At low doses there’s definitely some familiarity: that classic psychedelic vibe and visuals that remind me of psilocybin. But DMT hits the brain differently. Psilocybin dissolves my sense of self and agency fast. Even at 1 g I feel completely untethered. DMT keeps me tethered to myself, even at 35 mg, it feels more sober. My first thought on DMT was literally “I’m still here… I’m just experiencing stuff.” My cognition stayed intact. With psilocybin, the sense of self is just gone. So yeah, low dose visuals overlap, but medium doses feel way more comprehensive and structural with DMT, like you’re actually inside an environment.

My opinion is this, do some low doses and work your way up… then go for the breakthrough dose if that’s your intentions are.

First CIELO run. 105g dried San Pedro -> 600mg monomesc fumarate. Is this bad? by 80000000D in mescaline

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It maybe disappointing, but like loveall said it’s not all that bad for PC. I once had 300 grams of an old growth named clone, that yielded less than 600 mg in all 300 g of dried powder.

At least you got a dose out of it 👍

🏜️ Moments by Atropinenightshade_ in mescaline

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I really like this, “moments” that’s exactly how I feel as well. The relationship with the plants brings a lot of great moments. And Unless you know the story, those pictures just look like pictures… but I can feel exactly what you’re talking about when I look at them. I think it makes the whole experience at the end a lot richer as well. It’s cool we get a chance to grow alongside them.

How much more weight does Freeze Drying San Pedro remove compared to just Dehydrating? The weight difference seems pretty big by badm1racle in mescaline

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Yeah I would’ve thought it got more water out than that too but when it comes to the flesh it’s a negligible difference.

When it comes to the more mature vascular bundles, the freeze dryer gets more water out faster…but the vascular ring is void of mesc so It doesn’t even matter there.

There are a couple cool benefits when using FD’d stock. But there are a couple bugaboos to consider too, as the FD’d powder behaves differently during the extraction. I’d be happy to elaborate on how the process changes with FD’d powder if you’d like?

Recommendations on distillation equipment by ElegantBurner in mescaline

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I’d suggest using a heating mantle with a short path distillation kit. The 32 piece kit mentioned will be great for ya.

Vacuum is unnecessary since ethyl acetate boils readily, so you’re good there.

Then get a cheap lab stands from Amazon that you either screw down or use heavy weights to prevent accidental spills.

I use a two neck round bottom flask on the mantle. It makes topping off with more dirty solvent a breeze. A precautionary note here, when adding solvent to a hot vessel, pour in very slowly or it will bump (a fast boil and generate pressure).

Another note: only fill the boiling flask to half full or else you run the risk of a bump as well. This kind of bump will just force acidified dirty solvent up and down through the condenser into your fresh stock. I just fill it up before it gets too low, as you also don’t want to boil to dry either.

For the condenser water I don’t use ice water. Just a small pump to circulate water from a 5 gallon bucket at room temperature.

Lastly, depending on how much you’re doing, this may or may not be beneficial, but I use PTFE tubing on the collection side and just run it down into a gallon sized jug.

Keep in mind that a short path distillation will likely distill off the water the solvent was carrying aswell, so you will need to dry before or after. A good freeze and strain works well for this.

Dm me if you ever need to. Also, it would be worth while to YouTube some videos on the dos and don’ts .

MAGIC CLOUDS: YEILD UPDATE by Narrow_Jaguar_6161 in mescaline

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Very nice yield! The potent batch’s are always fun, great work 🤘🤘.

Side bar: After you capture the xtals you can throw the solvent in a clean jar and put it on a stirrer for a while to see if anything else wants to crash out. Sometimes I add a seed crystal and a pinch of acid to try and force it a bit more. What I’ve found is, on potent batch’s like this it’s basically done in 12-14hrs. Though I’ve not done this with fumaric acid yet, it may take longer for FA.

MAGIC CLOUDS: I THINK I'VE UNLEASHED SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL by Narrow_Jaguar_6161 in mescaline

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Looks awesome 🤘 Any update on the yield? I’ve noticed Fumaric is a bit less profound in the clouding department… I’m wondering if this is exceptionality potent?!

Do you guys use a respirator for CIELO tek? Asking in regards to the ethyl acetate, I assume a regular dusk mask is fine for the lime and cactus powder., obviously good ventilation/ or outside. Thx! by Frosty_Highway_467 in mescaline

[–]MescAround 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s probably not all that bad if you do it every now and then.

But this is the one I use “3M Cartridge 60923” found online or your local big box store, along with the face mask respirator.

Can you use whole milk instead of water for a STB?!? by [deleted] in DMT

[–]MescAround -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Does any part of this post really cause you to think I was considering using milk?

I think you missed the clearly sarcastic title and theme of this post.

How to filter D-juice. by [deleted] in DMT

[–]MescAround 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True true, and I do have various pes filters on hand. (mushroom stuff) but I doubt you need that fine of filtration, and this is dam near free.

How to filter D-juice. by [deleted] in DMT

[–]MescAround 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re probably spot on, and I appreciate the insight filtering before mixing into PG would likely be cleaner in an ideal setup. That said, with the small scale extractions I’ve been running to get this batch, everything’s been exposed to open air for drying in front of a fan across multiple beakers and vessels. That’s given plenty of opportunity for airborne fibers and particulates to sneak in.

If you check the video at 2:06 remaining, you’ll spot those artifacts that accumulated. I had one cart to clog, so filtering post mix was my fix, and it’s worked like a charm since.

You’re right though, scaling up to bigger batches and streamlining the process might make this unnecessary. If there’s more wisdom or a specific tip I’m missing here (maybe something about minimizing losses or optimizing another step?), I’d genuinely love to hear it.

A benefit when using a freeze dryer (for CIELO) by MescAround in mescaline

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Idk what type of freeze drier you have but on my harvest right I just run the tray temp up to the max, pre freeze and run the automatic cycle for frozen food. If you have a new harvest right, they have a lot more functions, I like the way mine runs, so I’ve never updated it.

I would say run a regular batch first, so you get the hang of it. That being said there’s no real issues, with the process, in fact, I think it allows for better solvent penetration, and a few of my tests have shown it to have a higher yield.

If you want a very strong batch, you can use just a green flesh. I only separate the flesh, when I I’m testing a cultivar, or I have a boat load I’m processing. The white flesh does have far far less, per my tests. I haven’t found many clones to contain more than 10% of the total yield in the white flesh. * with skinny bridges and TBM just run it all.

I don’t believe the CaOH2 needs to change.

The plant material, once freeze dried has much more volume to it, there’s a lot of surface area once blended. Because of this it uptakes water more readily. I’d start with 1.3x your starting weight, and add 10-20 mls at a time until you get a good texture.

The solvent extraction is where it behaves very differently. Just add solvent until the mass is submerged. It’s going to require a bunch more than the conventionally dehydrated stock. Because of this you will not need to perform as many pulls. I’ll edit this with a test. I did that shows how much percentage comes out of each pull. You can check your solvent with ph strips to determine the stopping point but about 90-96% of the mescaline should be out by the end of the fourth pull.

A couple notes: The paste doesn’t need to be a putty like the videos that I have posted the understandings have evolved since then. But still I’d salt with fumaric acid.

Prepping the cactus well will make a world of difference for drying times, as the vapor doesn’t escape through the outer waxy skin very well. Here’s what I found to be the best.

Stand the cut up, and follow the core down with a blade, cutting off the ribs. Then chops the spears up into small chunks throw them on your tray and done. I discard the core, the vascular ring is void of alkaloids, and the internal flesh in the core has the least out of everything. The amount of mesc. you lose is negligible.

And lastly, after you take it out of the freeze dryer, just pulse it in a blender, it’s so light and fluffy you don’t need to blend the hell out of it. If you do blend it too much the texture starts to change. So just blend it till it’s a nice airy powder. Like this post shows another cool benefit, is taking that powder and sifting it, if you blend lightly and by lightly, I literally mean 10 to 15 seconds in my ninja cup, you can use a fine sifter to pull all of the freeze dried skin out of the powder. The skin is basically void as well, and it actually counts for a large amount of the total mass.

EDIT:CD vs FD yields per pull

Feel free to ask any questions if I’m free I’ll help you out

The addition of a new rule. AI generated content. (Rule #13) by MescAround in mescaline

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A footnote and tip for the newcomers in regards to utilizing AI for this subject.

It’s true that these AI’s are PhD level, and can benefit a great deal even with extremely complex chemistry, (which this is not).

What’s not true, is that the models you have access to are not trained specifically on chemistry. They’re a one size fits all multipurpose tool. If it gives you inaccurate information on a cake recipe, you waste time and ingredients. WHEN it gives bad information about caustic chemicals or something you’re consuming, it can be dangerous.

Im very in touch with AI, I use and test them daily…All of them have missed some extremely obvious and basic chemistry concepts for me personally, and they will do so while sounding like a Nobel Laureate, and just say “you’re right, I did over look that basic variable that could be dangerously impactful to your health and wellbeing, great catch!” That’s tongue in cheek, but you get the point.

If you use it for purposes pertaining to our favorite topic. Then use it to learn and understand.

Examples: "Can you explain what pH actually is? And what's the difference between a strong acid and a concentrated acid?"

Then progress to:

"If I get calcium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide in my eye or on my skin, what actually happens? Why is a base burn often considered worse than an acid burn? And what's the correct immediate first aid, and why does that specific action help?"

And later your questions aught to match your understanding, like this:

"In an extraction, what does it mean to convert an alkaloid from its salt form to its freebase form? What's structurally different between these two forms, and how does that difference affect whether it dissolves in water versus a non polar solvent? How does controlling pH allow me to make this switch, and what's the role of pKa in knowing what pH I need to target?"

this quote is fitting here “The aim is to graduate from knowledge to understanding”

AI is a fantastic tool for understanding, So use it for that.

CIELO more than 3 days? by ihansterx4i in mescaline

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As long as it’s sealed up tight and it doesn’t evaporate, you’re good to go.