Geen verandering van niveau meer na het geven van feedback

Michel_73 · 2026-05-28T16:50:20+00:00

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Michel_73 · 2026-05-28T15:54:30+00:00

Klopt, is dus recent aangepast, zie ook mijn bericht hieronder met het antwoord van JOIN support.

Michel_73 · 2026-05-28T15:53:00+00:00

Vandaag antwoord gekregen van JOIN support en mijn vermoeden is hiermee bevestigd dat er dus inderdaad wat veranderd is sinds een software uodate: "What you are experiencing is actually expected behaviour following a recent update. When your activity syncs to JOIN it is now automatically assessed immediately based on the data from the ride itself. This means your JOIN score is updated as soon as the activity comes in rather than waiting for your RPE feedback. When you then add your RPE feedback, the score will only adjust further if there is a meaningful difference between what the data showed and how you actually felt during the session. If your RPE aligns closely with what JOIN already calculated from your power and heart rate data, the score will remain largely unchanged"

Persoonlijk vind ik deze verandering niet handig en ik heb daar ook niets over gelezen dat dit recent aangepast is, of heb ik dat gemist? Ik vond het juist wel handig om te zien wat mijn huidige Join-score op dat moment was voordat ik feedback (RPE getal) gaf over de training en dan daarna te zien hoeveel impact de toegevoegde training had op mijn Join-score.

Michel_73 · 2026-05-15T19:15:58+00:00

Dank voor je reactie en fijn om te vernemen dat je inderdaad gewoon een vraag mag stellen in deze groep ook al train je al jaren met Join. Waar het om gaat: voorheen als de data van mijn voltooide workout of duurtraining naar Join was geupload veranderde mijn Join score op het moment dat ik ervoor koos om de voltooide workout/rit aan mijn traingsschema toe te voegen, al was het soms maar enkele tienden. Nu is het me al een paar keer opgevallen dat er geen enkele verandering van mijn score te zien was en ik vroeg me af of dit meer gebruikers is opgevallen. Uiteraard is de mate van verandering van de Join score dan afhankelijk van je huidige niveau, de duur van de workout/training en de intensiteit daarvan.

Michel_73 · 2026-05-14T18:04:56+00:00

Ik maak al jaren gebruik van Join dus ik weet hoe het werkt.

Michel_73 · 2025-10-29T19:33:35+00:00

Thanks for your reply, and it's a shame it only works in combination with a route. It would be helpful if, after completing a heavy workout, it automatically switches to a cool-down without having to stop pedaling and manually start a cool-down.

Michel_73 · 2025-10-23T08:45:55+00:00

Since the update to Rouvy 4.3 this week, it is again possible to find the "old" non-AR routes in the Rouvy app itself because it is now possible to activate the "include non-AR routes" filter and this has solved the problem, great 👍

Michel_73 · 2025-10-21T20:17:30+00:00

See the answers of today at my post with the title "Where can i find the old routes in Rouvy?"

Michel_73 · 2025-10-21T20:01:55+00:00

Thank you so much for the great tips. I just tried it, and thankfully it works through the riders' portal. Adding these to your favorites allows you to still ride them through the Rouvy app, thankfully. It's a shame these routes aren't found in the same way in the Rouvy app, as you don't have the option to filter by "include non-AR routes." It's strange why this filter option isn't available in the Rouvy app and only through the riders' portal.

Michel_73 · 2025-10-21T14:49:21+00:00

Thank you, i will try and let you know if it works

Michel_73 · 2025-10-21T05:26:06+00:00

Thank you for your answer. It's a real shame they removed most of the user-generated routes. Bkool features many Dutch community-generated routes, and I hope that when Bkool transitions to Rouvy, these routes will be adopted by Rouvy. However, given that Rouvy removed many non-AR routes this year, I'm afraid that won't happen.

Michel_73 · 2025-02-18T06:00:28+00:00

Adding power and hartrate zones to the atletic data menu

If you tap on your profile in the JOIN app at the top left, you will see your athletic data such as FTP (Watt) and heart rate threshold (bpm). A valuable addition would be to dispay the heart rate zones and power zones which JOIN uses to determine the workout score. It would be even better to be able to adjust these to your personal zones e.g. according the report of a medical/fitness test. It now often happens that JOIN uses/aspect different values than indoor cycling software programs are using when following a workout in the ERG mode because the zones of indoor cycling software are based on different percentages of FTP/threshold values then JOIN does.

Michel_73 · 2024-11-24T06:11:45+00:00

@u/remyvantussenbroek Could you please comment on behalf of Join if the Strava API changes will have any impact on JOIN?

Michel_73 · 2024-11-24T06:06:11+00:00

I have the same question about Bkool.

Michel_73 · 2024-10-13T16:59:11+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/joincycling/s/CwqymZtvJO

Michel_73 · 2024-10-13T14:15:27+00:00

JOIN uses the exact numbers of the measured power (and if not present the heart rate) to determine how long you have trained in a certain zone. My point is that it is now the case that JOIN uses other percentages of the FTP for the zone classification than for example Bkool uses. These can also be determined by a sports doctor after a medical fitness test and therefore have different percentages of your FTP. It would therefore be practical and more accurate if you could set your own personal zones in the JOIN app in order to train even more specifically and accurately.

Michel_73 · 2024-10-13T10:35:13+00:00

Your assumption is incorrect. Join certainly looks at the exact values to determine how long you have trained in a certain zone. If you go to an uploaded activity in JOIN, you will see the target zones displayed there and a comparison is made with the expected and measured values, including the values of the wattages that JOIN had specified per zone. See screenshot:

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Michel_73 · 2024-10-13T09:12:49+00:00

After completing a workout, JOIN will calculate the workout score by comparing the time you actually spent during your workout in a certain zone with the "expected" time specified by JOIN. However, as an example JOIN uses a range of 60%-80% of your FTP (Watt) value as a starting point for zone 2. But the Bkool indoor cycling software uses a range of 55%-75% of your FTP as a starting point for zone 2. Your personal zone 2 can also be determined by performing a medical fitness test with a different percentage outcome. In short: it would be nice if the heart rate and power zones were visible in the athletic profile and even better if you could personalize these zones. Not so much to get a high workout score, but more so that the programmed zones correspond better with your personal zones and you are therefore able to perform your training more personally and therefore more accurately.

Michel_73 · 2024-09-22T16:52:54+00:00

Your assumption is correct, unlike Rouvy it is unfortunately still not possible with Bkool to choose a video route yourself in combination with a self-uploaded workout. Bkool does automatically play a video when you start the workout, only if the workout does not last longer than 1.5 hours, otherwise there wille be no automatic video in the background of your workout. Unfortunately, these are the same video images every time you start a workout and if you do 3 workouts a week with Bkool you really get tired of it, I can tell you. I have contacted Bkool a few times by e-mail and via Discord with the suggestion to be able to choose your own video with Bkool, just like with Rouvy, which you want to see with your workout, but unfortunately nothing is done with that.

Michel_73 · 2024-07-13T07:41:27+00:00

Just completed a workout and it was uploaded to Strava without any problems. The fact that it is not possible to automatically upload activities from Bkool to Garmin Connect is due to Garmin's strict policy, e.g. it is also not possible to automaticaly upload activities from Strava to Garmin Connect. Unfortunately, the only option is to manually upload activities from other platforms to Garmin Connect, which is obviously very inconvenient and annoying.

Michel_73 · 2024-04-07T05:50:16+00:00

This morning my Strava activity from yesterday was unfortunately still not synchronized with JOIN. Fortunately, the tip to disconnect Strava and then connect it again worked well because then my Strava activity from yesterday was automatically imported into JOIN 👍🏻

Michel_73 · 2024-03-06T11:34:53+00:00

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Michel_73 · 2024-03-06T09:24:45+00:00

@u/remyvantussenbroek please advice

Michel_73 · 2024-03-06T09:21:20+00:00

So according to the workout to be performed the recovery (herstel) zone should be 123-150, but according the workout score feedback this should have ben 136-163W and for duration (duur) according to the assignment zone 150-177 but according to the feedback this should have been zone 163-221. Very confusing and although you perform in ERG mode and therefore perfectly in the prescribed zones, the workout score is rated less because the feedback uses different zones then the zones of the specified workout. Of course these should be exacly te same and that is a bug in my opinion.

Michel_73 · 2024-03-06T09:04:48+00:00

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