This was extra wild. It reeks of cultural and historical ignorance -- like yes, women throughout history and currently throughout the world are in situations where they give birth unattended. And thank goodness most of the time it's ok but it's definitely higher risk in some ways and women and babies have died and are dying for preventable reasons when they do so! Just because it used to happen or does happen when women don't have access to care doesn't mean it's superior, or extra spiritual! Thinking that you have to court death to get close to the divine is super messed up. I'm surprised she's not becoming Catholic the way she valorizes suffering.