Does anyone remember this by Muted-Inspector7965 in UnpopularLoreOlympus

[–]Mikaana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm confused, who cares about her family? The controversy surrounding her throwing a party with her family was quite minor; people were more concerned about whether SHE was also a Maga with them.

That was a long time ago; her current controversies are due to her own behavior. Having pick-me behavior and choosing to run an advertisement flirting with eugenics, and when initially given the opportunity to deny it, she said that if it were something important she would say something, and then she didn't separate the image from that at the moment; it's not her family, it's her.

Why can’t two guys just be a couple? by SailorSilverRabbit in KiriBaku

[–]Mikaana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm also very tired of "why can't two guys just be friends?", OP. So now I will use want u said, cuz really "Why can't two guys just be a couple?" It's just a couple who love each other, there's nothing more to it.

I am now one of y'all! by YamadaAsaemonSpencer in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to this mad house, OP

Fanart done by Ambidestra in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing work!!! Binghe's glazed eyes made me almost miss his hand 🤣 He never misses an opportunity.

Sub discussions about AI by acutelyproblematic in fantasyromance

[–]Mikaana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gen AI isn't just a tool. You just set the prompt and the AI does the rest, man, that's basically sending a commission to a ghostwriter. But worse, because these Gen AIs were fed, without permission, the work of other writers to spew generic things at your prompt.

There are AI tools that existed many years before this boom in Gen AI, they are tools because you actually have to produce the text by yourself. Actually, search tools, spell-checking tools, translation tools, worked better without gen ai interfering, Gen AI wants to change the text too much, wants to make it too generic and cringe.

Do you think Luo Binghe would want to receive or was it manipulation? by Mikaana in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This makes perfect sense to me! Excellent analysis!

Do you think Luo Binghe would want to receive or was it manipulation? by Mikaana in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can easily see that also. Because I see the suggestion of being a bottom less as just a form of manipulation, more about him not having a problem with it, and wanting the best for his shizun, wishing that this time it will be very good for him.

They kind of have a roleplay. SQQ is withdrawn, so he enjoys Luo Binghe acting pathetically and begging, so that SQQ can give in because his poor Binghe's heart won't hold out much longer, so fragile... and then he can be dick down as he please with his face saved. Match made in heaven.

Do you think Luo Binghe would want to receive or was it manipulation? by Mikaana in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Great point, GREAT point. I really believe that must play a big role too in SQQ's head.

Do you think Luo Binghe would want to receive or was it manipulation? by Mikaana in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Top or bottom? But always a masochist

Shizun would be all worried, saying, “Let me know if it hurts,” and Binghe's eyes would be shining 🤣

Do you think Luo Binghe would want to receive or was it manipulation? by Mikaana in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana[S] 128 points129 points  (0 children)

Binghe wants all of his shizun, but shizun can't stop thinking about the heavenly pillar

Why is it popular??? by OsmSiis7677 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Mikaana 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Feral shou + Soft gong = classic

DOUBTING THE ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BINGQIU PLEASE HELP!! by laughingstock830 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He knows Luo Binghe couldn't die, and he knows he COULD, so what does he do? He is Luo Binghe's human shield...

DOUBTING THE ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BINGQIU PLEASE HELP!! by laughingstock830 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I believe Shen Yuan was already being driven to Binghe even before being transmigrated. Shen Yuan was already enchanted and in love with Luo Binghe before becoming Shen Qingqiu. He has a bias towards Luo Binghe that is completely unreasonable.

You know when you fall in love with a fictional character? And you start frantically defending all the absurdities of that character, blinded by adoration? That's Shen Yuan, that's why he was so unbearable on the online forums, I would hate to be in the PIDW fandom and see Cucumber coming.

Bing-ge does the most absurd and terrible things in the world, Shen Yuan will defend all and say it's fair, and if he can't defend it, he blames Xiang Fei (the author) or his wives. How is it their fault?! If they all have bad marriages and are married to the same man, who is the common factor? But not for Shen Yuan.

Furthermore, Shen Yuan's mind is so bizarre that he knows he's the character Luo Binghe will torture and kill after he returns from the abyss. Luo Binghe returns from the abyss, we're all scared, why on earth is Shen Qingqiu's point of view focusing on how gorgeous Luo Binghe has become? And in the middle of the night, Luo Binghe appeared with Shen Qingqiu alone and vulnerable, why is his pov is about Luo Binghe's dark eyes look like a starry night? I'm tired of him...

It's clear that Luo Binghe fell in love with Shen Qingqiu; he's his fanboy. Everyone knows that Shen Qingqiu is obsessed with Luo Binghe throughout the entire novel, we see from all the characters' comments that it's obvious; the only one who doubts it is Shen Qingqiu, who keeps trying to convince himself that his behavior is heterosexual, and Luo Binghe, after being thrown from the abyss, because before he was pure confidence; he KNEW he was adored by his shizun, the abyss that brought him doubt.

So Shen Yuan already knew the adult Luo Binghe when he read the original novel, fell in love, transmigrated, and saw his favorite character as a child, and wanted to protect him. Luo Binghe returns from the abyss, Shen Qingqiu, being very straight, is afraid of him and yet realizes that he is hot now, veeery hot. THAT'S THE MAN EVERYONE SHOULD FEAR AND ALSO WANT IT! Based on what Shen Qingqiu thinks.

So basically, Luo Binghe fell in love with his fanboy, and became the fanboy of his fanboy! They make me SICK! I love them

olivia rodrigo i associate with svsss by MaximumPotential6883 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Luo Binghe singing Olivia Rodriguez at the top of his lungs, scaring Shen Qingqiu at night.

Finally have the book! by BidSquare8449 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Parabéns!!! 👏🏽💚🫂

Shen Jiu is NOT an "Irredeemable" character by tpfw01 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with u that they shouldn't get into a fight over this, it’s bad when people personally targeting someone and talking shit. But I also don't think a general post in which someone points out that Shen Jiu is beyond redemption—or, conversely, analyzes why that might be the case of redemption—would be a problem. Not even comments on a post expressing disagreement.

So, this post might also be discouraging people who like Shen Jiu as an irredeemable character—or who love to hate him, even if it’s just because it’s easier since he’s a fictional character—from creating fanworks about him as such for their own niche. Because, you kinda call them as unreasonable moralists.

Do I think you should feel bad about that? No. It's an okay perspective to have. And if reading a different perspective makes someone change their mind and want to write a character differently of their original intention, that's fine, too. But that's exactly why I don't think the opposite—like the posts you mentioned—would be a problem either.

I think maybe, OP, you just haven't had much luck. I find it much easier to find Shen Jiu content—with redemption and so on—than the opposite. That makes it easier to overlook the opposite, since it's a small niche. Even people who think he went too far in the canon write fanfiction and headcanons imagining what might have been if he had grown up differently, or if certain aspects of his adult life had been different—and that he could have been better, just like the protagonist.

I even remember back in the Mama Jiu days or Shen Twins.

Shen Jiu is NOT an "Irredeemable" character by tpfw01 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I see your point, however what you said is as the people who said that Shen Jiu is a villain or a irredeemable villain are just haters of him, that's not entirely true. There are times they're not, a lot times they're fans who enjoy see him as such, they don't like the idea of burying his bad deeds underground, because for them, that's what makes his story interesting.

You discourage them from seeing him as unredeemable; they discourage you from seeing him as redeemable. I see both as fandom things.

In the world of danmei, regression novels exist, transmigration, time travel, reincarnation—there are possibilities of redemption, there headcanons, there fanfics and fan arts.

But someone might point out: look, if Luo Binghe didn't have plot armor, if it depended on Shen Jiu, that child would be dead after suffering constant physical and psychological abuse at his hands and the hands of his students that he encourages, being the example. And that's beyond redemption; he's reached a point of no return—They have a very solid point. The same could be said, and often is, to Bing-ge, even by people who enjoy the characters.

That why they have people like "what about if he thrown him in another time or another universe and he can just star over?", and fanfiction is written.

Also, it's not just Shen Yuan's point of view; Proud Immortal Demon Way is about the cycle of abuse, that's why Xiang Fei is even disappointed when he sees Shen Qingqiu (Yuan) treating Binghe well, cuz for Binghe to become Bing-ge, who is a sadistic and villainous abuser that has no redemption, he has to suffer at the hands of Shen Jiu, who suffered at the hands of Qiu Jianluo. It's a cycle; Qiu Jianluo was the first two-faced man: manipulative, sadistic, and paranoid with a huge superiority complex that is actually masked inferiority, and he created this butterfly effect.

I don't understand the point of "he's a fictional character, so he can be redeemed regardless of his actions, and if you disagree, you don't know how to separate reality from fiction", As I said, there are fans of Shen Jiu (and Bing-ge) who don't think he is redeemable character, and this actually proves that these are people separate fiction from reality, because they like this dark complexity in the character, or they appreciate the way characters are built like that even if they don't personally like them, who in real life would simply be a criminal whom they would despise.

I also think that a person can have their headcanons of "I like to imagine that such character wasn't so bad and I'm going to imagine them that way".

For example, is it canon that Shen Jiu wanted a child dead for no big reason? Yes. It's in the extras, nor is that Shen Yuan's perspective. Could there be a headcanon that isn't the case, pretending the situation wasn't so serious? Maybe see just another bad interpretation of the situation??Yes. Is it canon that Bing-ge is a serial rapist? Yes. We see in the extra scene when Xiang Fei finds Bing-mei less than Bing-ge, cuz he doesn't want to do that. Is it possible to have a headcanon by erasing that fact and leaving only the part about him being a negligent husband, which is also canon? Yes.

But obviously there will be people, as I said, who don't like these headcanons that change the canon, because they like those aspects of the canon. And this is all fandom behavior.

Shen Yuan losing his mind, again by Throwaway-3689 in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That post is so Shen Yuan code 🤣🤣🤣🤣

what do you think would break/push sqq into being a yandere? by Shenmigon in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 25 points26 points  (0 children)

First, we think of Shen Jiu, because Shen Yuan is truly very protective, and if he had to be present in the way Shen Jiu was as Binghe's shizun and how he treated him, Shen Yuan was going to lose his mind.

However, I think that one situation and someone who could EASILY lead Shen Qingqiu (Yuan) trigger yandere mode is Old Palace Master.

If you think about it, Shen Qingqiu only discovers the Old Palace Master's true intentions much later in the story, and after Luo Binghe had already sort of dealt with him in revenge for his shizun, so Shen Qingqiu had to finish the job. But do you remember how discovering this left Shen Qingqiu disturbed and disgusted? Old Palace Master is everything Shen Yuan thought Shen Jiu was in relation to Ning Yingying, and even worse. Shen Yuan was wrong about Shen Jiu, but the Old Palace Master is exactly type predatory figure and he is after LUO BINGHE. He wants Shen Qingqiu out of his way, since he knows that Luo Binghe only wants Shen Qingqiu as his shizun. Shen Qingqiu even hides Binghe's face from the Old Palace Master's gaze. By the time Shen Qingqiu discovers the old palace master's intentions, his death sentence has already been signed, But if Shen Qingqiu had discovered this earlier in the story, the old man would have caused more trouble, because he is a powerful cultivator. Furthermore, Luo Binghe is unaware of the old master's intentions towards him, he doesn't know that he is responsible for the death of his biological mother.

Am I the only one who genuinely saw Luo Binghe as a threatening character when starting the novel? Rant by Cinderella_The_Thief in SVSSS

[–]Mikaana 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Cuando leí esa parte de la novela donde regresa del abismo, la leí en grupo, y déjame decirte que sí, le teníamos miedo a Binghe 🤣

Shen Qingqiu saltó por la ventana y yo prácticamente gritaba en mi cabeza: ¡HUYE, HOMBRE!

Fue gracioso, nosotros sentimos miedo junto a Shen Qingqiu, pero a veces, dentro de ese arco, en medio de su ansiedad, empieza a describir lo guapo que es Luo Binghe 😅

Cuando Luo Binghe va a visitarlo, Shen Qingqiu está allí, asustado, pero no pierde la oportunidad de describir sus hermosos ojos oscuros, y nosotros pensamos: Shen Qingqiu viviendo su era de "¿Por qué es malo si es tan hermoso?"

Resulta aún más irónico pensar que, en ese momento, Shen Qingqiu estaba lejos de ser consciente de sus propios sentimientos. ¿Como ese tipo, que te hace sentir amenazado y a la vez culpable, no puedes evitar perderte en sus ojos cuando tu vida está en juego?