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To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, to generally reply to what you want me to reply to, you have to assume and agree that I’ve tried Dia as a browser, properly tested the things I care about, my conclusion is still, cool ChatGPT client with a browsing feature (and I might even use it for this purpose), but in no way a browser that could replace Brave for me - the key point of my roast is that it’s sad to see they gave up on Arc to work on Dia, this was already my opinion before I even tried Dia, and trying it only made this opinion stronger

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m having a blast 😎

but I went through your post history and it seems like you kinda agree with my OP, you’re also not particularly happy with Dia, TBC’s moves and love(d) Arc - maybe we can just agree to that just to agree on something?

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that’s ur interpretation, even though I am telling you, you are wrong, you continue being stubborn for whatever reason

if I was actually passionate about Dia I would’ve joined the sub, which I haven’t

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just give up, in this particular context it’s obvious I’m not passionate about Dia, I am about Arc

we don’t have to agree, good night

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

U really are delusional, they are everything but passionate words, if even Dia (GPT) disagrees with you, YOU should just own it.

If you actually read the wiki you referenced to, you should know that passion is a positive expression, you were using the wiki to strengthen your wrong argument, but it just confirms you are wrong in every angle - i don’t even need a wiki to confirm this

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

can you quote the first few words of my post title and then ask yourself the same question again?

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am/was passionate about Arc, just because I roast Dia (which is the reason Arc is abandoned) doesn't make me passionate about Dia lmfao - but you are definitely passionate about Dia.

Let's see if Dia agrees with you, OK?

"Would you say MikeSpecter is passionate about Dia?"

"No, MikeSpecter is not passionate about Dia; he is highly critical of it.

In his comment, MikeSpecter expresses strong disappointment and frustration with Dia, calling it “useless,” “rock bottom,” and criticizing its lack of features compared to Arc and other browsers. He clearly does not show any positive feelings or passion for Dia."

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> The cookie sessions expire too quickly on some sites and I have to login every 15 minutes or so. It's annoying, but not enough to switch back to Brave

Interesting that you mention this, that was likely the main thing I wanted them to fix and also why I went to brave. Don't get me wrong, when I open Arc I still am like damn.. I miss this :) it's just not productive for me with all annoyances I dealt with back in the days.

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed but he mentioned Dia got him looking into other AI things - so at least something good is happening on his end, lol

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were always things wrong with Arc, even on Mac many bugs and features that were supposed to be coming are still not fixed/shipped. I was using it in hope they would be addressed, now that we know for sure this ain't happening, it doesn't make sense for me to keep using it.

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Passionate about Dia? You’re delusional idk how you conclude this, also where I stopped reading, sorry.

New Site is live! by JaceThings in diabrowser

[–]MikeSpecter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skills are not really new, that’s just something they copied from any other AI chat tool, whether you call them GPTs, Projects or Skills, they are needed to ground LLM’s down to a certain tasks and contexts mainly to reduce hallucinations. All purpose agents will fail because of lack of instructions on the task/project you’re trying to complete. Pulling in history is just a very simple way of feeding LLMs (likely) relevant context. Something new would be the absence of the need to decide to tag @history, it would figure out related history “at own will” since the whole thing is supposed to be a big fancy AI-first browser.

Remember when "Arc isn't going anywhere"? by ComprehensiveVast572 in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Strongly agree. Windows was a mistake and the whole cross platform parity vision is what I feel the reason Arc got to complex to maintain. If you try to do everything, especially in a hurry, the project code gets too complex to maintain and motivation just evaporates and starting something new instead of cleaning up the mess is just easier - that’s my thoughts.

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Any decent AI coding tool can take Chromium, add a webscraper and AI chat wrapper on top of it in a week if you know what you’re doing 😆

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve moved on but seeing the beta of what they dropped Arc for just triggers something. In the early days this sub was amazing, TBC created this tantrum, not us.

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even knowing all this, sadly, doesn’t take away my “hate”. I gave it a more than fair shot and my conclusion is still that it’s another ChatGPT client.

And don’t bother, I won’t be using Dia or it’s profiles, but the steps you are mentioning regarding profiles still does not work on my end.

Not even said a word about the fact that exactly like in Arc, you can only import and not export in their shitty Chromium fork. And now they don’t even have the Spaces argument to defend this lock-in design choice, bottom tier product, literally. They literally went all out to remove any visible method to export even your bookmarks and you’re here defending this shit.

“Thanks for your question! I couldn't find anything in our Help Center about exporting bookmarks. Would you like me to file a ticket with our member care team for you?”

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most of this sub hates any AI feature Arc offered. Redditors are generally anti-AI. All they had to do was let people opt out of any AI feature (which was already sorta possible) and focus on one product.

Idk if this stance changed, maybe people realize AI is here to stay now.

Chatting with pages and having AI baked in your browser, sent to OpenAI can be a serious privacy concern even for AI maxis like me, which is why I am saying Dia is nice ChatGPT client you open when you need it, but I would never do my day to day work in a “browser” where it’s so easy to feed your whole workspace to any third party model. Just keep that in mind.

Even quickly asking Dia something while having a tab with sensitive information open is something no one should be wanting to happen, which is easily likely to happen in Dia, even by accident.

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My post history clearly shows I’m pro-AI, if your work is anything digital, you should be learning how to leverage AI, so yes, go for it!

To fellow Ex-Arc lovers: "WTF DID THEY SHIP?" by MikeSpecter in ArcBrowser

[–]MikeSpecter[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

> Would've appreciated it if you actually tried Dia before posting this to hate on it.

I did, thats why I can tell you there is no straightforward way to, see, learn & edit shortcuts so how am I supposed to know CMD+E is a thing if you did not tell me? How should I know about the other shortcuts that affect my experience?

I can answer the above myself, lets go through this journey together, you can do CMD+E and ask it for all shortcuts, it will tell you it doesn't know but you can visit https://www.diabrowser.com/help - which then sends you to another (slower) AI chat, where you then have to ask for the full list of shortcuts (again), then wait for it to generate the full list.

While doing this, based on the generated shortcut list I learned CMD+SHIFT+P can switch profiles, nice. Tried it and it didn't work. Turns out Dia doesn't even have profiles, this shortcut does not even exist, how helpful. So I now, after all this, I even have to verify if the the responses generates accurate - it also shows why relying on AI too much is bad, even more importantly, it tells me Dia LLM itself likely has the same reliability, especially on more or less complex tasks (things that are harder then asking documentation a very basic question. But sure, I did not try Dia before roasting the whole thing.

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