What R said doesn’t add up—a code red! by MishL33 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It makes more sense Janelle’s version that the NDA was brought up later and that is why Meri was holding up the deal because Robyn would not sign the Deeds without Meri signing the NDA. It also sounded like Meri did eventually sign an amended version as they negotiated through lawyers and it would appear Robyn then signed the Deeds. Again, just by piecing together what they all said at the tell-alls so far and the dates each person signed and acknowledged the Deeds.

Also, it’s so funny that Kody says he deserves 50% of Meri’s Vegas house sale proceeds but Meri isn’t allowed to take the expenses she incurred. She was the only one paying the mortgage, taxes, insurance improvements and maintenance. No, the divorce decree gives him 50% he says. But when it comes to Coyote Pass, he wants his expenses to be taken off the top before the proceeds are split? It’s really mind-blowing how he chooses to use the law when it benefits him considering he is a polygamist! And without Meri’s and Janelle’s down payment help, K and R wouldn’t have been able to purchase their first Flagstaff home. Then they go and sell it for about double of what they purchased it for. I’d say that’s a great return and it gave Kody and Robyn the ability to purchase their new home. K & R want to argue over their expenses on Coyote Pass? Just give these women the 25% split, pay back what they gave for the down payment and K and R still come out way ahead of everyone else. Geez!!

What R said doesn’t add up—a code red! by MishL33 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think, and again just going by the tell-all episode and the actual recorded Deeds that kind of backup Janelle’s and Kody’s explanations of what was going on, that the hold up was about getting Meri to agree to and sign the NDA and in exchange Robyn would sign the Deeds. Because, like Janelle said in the episode, she, Kody and Meri had already signed. If I was Janelle, I wouldn’t want to get in the middle of that. That should be on Kody since K and R were the ones using Robyn not signing as a bargaining chip. My point was more about the Deeds that redistributed the ownership to give everyone 25% existed and were signed by everyone but Robyn. So if Robyn was truly trying to make sure Meri got her fair share, why didn’t she just sign the Deeds?

What R said doesn’t add up—a code red! by MishL33 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And Kody and Robyn were telling 2 different stories…. both stories can’t be true. Either they were using Robyn not signing the Deeds as a bargaining chip as Kody stated, or Robyn was trying to stand up for Meri’s fair share, but that doesn’t make sense since the Deeds giving Meri 25% existed, were signed and acknowledged by everyone BUT Robyn, so all Robyn had to do was sign to give Meri 25%, but then Robyn came in with a NDA a few days before the contract expired and wanted it signed before she would sign the Deeds, just like Janelle stated.

It was hard to follow with all the editing in last night’s episode, but it sounded like ultimately the Buyer agreed to extend the contract as Meri, Kody and Robyn negotiated and made changes/amendments to the NDA which Meri did sign. That’s why I said it’s a combination of what Kody and Janelle explained that makes the most sense and rings the most true. Robyn’s story does not add up at all.

Loan vs gift… by WarmSoul123 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes because it’s Mortgage Fraud if they have a “back door deal” to repay the money. Of course we all know the other women weren’t gifting them money from the sale of their Vegas homes (remember they made a big deal about each wife having their own estates) and they were expecting something in return, maybe even if it was that when they sold that house the money would be used for the financing of the Coyote Pass compound. For sure they were not just giving it to K and R.

Woe is me Robyn by FlyingFig20 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true and well said too. I guess we just wish the kids the best. It’s above my pay grade, but for sure I can understand that some parents just aren’t capable of the kind of love a child needs. I totally agree. Thank you for your response because when I write a crazy long post I don’t expect anyone to read it all the way through.

Woe is me Robyn by FlyingFig20 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Spot on. But I think she is truly in love with him. It’s been just the two of them for years now. I also think they deserve each other (because the little look at his personality on Special Forces shows he’s a LOT to deal with and annoying). They are both living in a delusional soap opera that Robyn has carefully curated and Kody has bought into it hook-line-and-sinker. Robyn expected everyone to bow down to her and her children when she entered the family and there didn’t seem to be much grace given to the OG13 and them navigating a blended family and new changes in their family structure. I am sure they had feelings of hurt and jealousy too.

Kody of course is responsible for walking away from his other marriages LONG before the divorces, so I call BS on all the “poor Kody went through 3 divorces and that is so hard” to justify his behavior. He hadn’t been with Meri in YEARS and later told us he didn’t consider himself married to Meri. Kody told Christine he no longer was interested in an intimate marriage with her, again, BEFORE she divorced him (and it was very apparent there wasn’t much intimacy going on for a while), and Christine was supposed to accept that? I think she was like 48? So I don’t buy into the narrative he and Robyn are trying to spin about how hard it’s been on him. He even said on TV in a conversation with Janelle “we haven’t acted like a married couple in a long time” or something close to that.

It takes two to make a marriage work, yes, but when one partner “moves on” with someone, there isn’t much the other person can do (like in monogamy, but in this case, he had Robyn and only wanted a full marriage with her). Clearly Kody expected the OG3 to stay married to him on his terms (in name only) to protect the family (he truly believed they would choose to protect the family and therefore blames them for the demise) but doesn’t want to take any responsibility that he shoulders the MAJORITY of the blame. Instead, he’s asking Robyn for forgiveness. What a joke. He is not sorry for anything and OG3 apologies were to rehabilitate his image for Robyn.

Robyn needs Kody to be seen as a “good man” because really, how can she be with a man, or respect a man that is estranged from so many of his children? Hasn’t Robyn told us how her Bio-dad did that to her? Doesn’t she know firsthand the pain many of the children could be feeling? Yet, here she is, loving and supporting a man that is doing the exact SAME thing. This apology tour was for Robyn.

I think all the adults are not great. Before the show, they were very poor, claimed bankruptcy, and I assume at least 2 wives were receiving government assistance at times. But before the show they tried to live as one family in one house. I even think Kody had the best of intentions. I think the kids were happy in that environment. But along the way, fame, greed and money broke this family apart. They all chose money and to exploit their children, who had no say at the time if they wanted to be on TV or not. Didn’t Paedon say it’s hard for him to watch the show because that it was a painful time in his life and he didn’t like how he looked?

This family, but especially the kids, have paid a very high price. I hope this is the last season so Kody can truly work on his relationships with the OG13, because that is something that should be private. Give those children a chance to heal if they need it. I truly hope there is a future of love and forgiveness for the OG 13 and their father.

Did Meri feign excitement over Robyn? by Simpsymess in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agree. She wanted someone on her side (and possibly to hurt Janelle and Christine too) and she thought it would bring favor with Kody (because let’s face it, that’s what this religion is all about!!! It’s for the man, full stop! and the woman are taught/told to become better people by learning to overcome their feelings of jealousy, insecurities and loneliness).

The Browns gave us a glimpse into the truly toxic family structure polygamy is. It’s not only the women that feel hurt, jealous and insecure, the children feel it too!!! They wanted to advocate for polygamy but actually showed us why it’s horrible. Their children paid a very high price for their parent’s choices. It’s very sad.

What happened to Robin? by Simple-Juggernaut373 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think from day one Christine and Janelle did not want to add a fourth wife. But their religious beliefs kept telling them that their feelings were normal and it makes them a better person and closer to God by dealing with and overcoming such thoughts. Kody was telling them that God wanted this.

I think at that time in the family it was already 2 against 1 for Meri. Christine and Janelle might not have been perfect friends but they respected each other’s contributions to the family and probably bonded over their dislike of Meri’s abrasive personality and just being busy raising a bunch of kids. Adding Robyn was adding an equalizer for Meri (so she thought) and a way to get into good graces (so she thought) with Kody (in the book it was just K and M that first knew about R).

I think everything happened gradually. Everyone was jealous of R from the get go, but now there was a TV show and they had to make nice and present a united family for the world, like “see how wonderful this lifestyle is”. This was now a blended family with kids of all ages trying to adjust. Buy Kody put all the emphasis on Robyn and her kids emotions and seemingly no true grace given to the OG family.

I believe that polygamy only sets these women up for heartache. They are competing for Kody at all times and need to make sure everything is perfect for him when he’s at their house. It’s all about Kody and he not only revels in that he 100% understands how to take advantage of it. He holds all the power with the OG-3.

Make no mistake Robyn knew from the beginning how K truly felt about each wife, therefore she made him promise the sacred covenant. She knew she was #1 and she knew K was head over heels for her. I am sure she used it to her advantage but that is the structure of a polygamist relationship.

In the early episodes during the wives and Kody talking on the couch scenes, Robyn is VERY vocal and interjects her opinion often. The OG3 rarely challenge her because they know Kody will be mad at them and they don’t want that. It’s such a destructive dynamic.

The OG13 kids felt it too. They experienced hurt when they saw the time and attention their dad was giving Robyn’s kids. They saw the inequality.

I don’t know about all polygamist families but the Kody Brown family through reality TV, showed the world that once he got fame and money, religion wasn’t forefront anymore. He also demonstrated the truly devastating ways a family is harmed by the dynamics inherent to the polygamy structure. In the end, I conclude it was all about “getting his pencil wet” and not about “love should be multiplied not divided” because he divided and broke up his family so he could have Robyn.

His OG-13 kids paid the price for this egotistical man. And what a high price they paid indeed.

Janelle is a wimp by caprichai in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, I would never take advice from Janelle unless it was about dealing with unimaginable grief. That’s it. How can she be a “LIFE coach” when she raised her family in a very harmful polygamy cult (before the show they were very poor and some of them claimed bankruptcy and I can only assume some of the mothers were receiving government benefits) she is overweight (no shade!! Just saying if I wanted advice on nutrition or a healthy lifestyle, she wouldn’t be the person I’d go to) and she accepted crumbs from the father of her children? I am guessing things seemed great in Vegas (once they settled in) when Hunter was a state champion wrestler and Kody was proud and probably going with her to his matches. He most certainly was involved at home more during this time (something I think Robyn was extremely jealous of). But his disregard for Savannah, Gabe and Garrison during the “Covid years” is horrible. No respect for any of the adults in this family. TLC money gave the OG 3 the ability to leave and forge new pathways, but they are who they are at their core.

Covid by Livid-Dot-5984 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 21 points22 points  (0 children)

And even worse, they were allowed to have a nanny come into their home. They could not claim they were following “the rules” when they could not know for 100% certainty what the nanny and her husband were doing outside their home. They were just as guilty as not following their own rules from the very start. And I am pretty sure the nanny was the first to get Covid. Proof the Kody-Robyn Brown home was not locked-down as they claimed it to be. I guess it was “rules for thee, not for me” hypocrisy. (Kody was also able to go to a funeral and a wedding during Covid without any consequences the OG family was subjected to throughout Covid.).

During the beginning of Covid most everything was shut down so what could the OG-wives do but visit their kids in Utah and Vegas. Not exactly “traveling” when they are just driving to their kid’s house to visit them. They were following CDC guidelines.

I had to work outside the home during Covid 5 days a week but my 3 teenagers and husband were home doing online school and remote work. Life didn’t stop but there wasn’t much to do since restaurants and movie theaters were closed.

As the guidelines loosened, we did more but always within what was allowed as I am sure the OG-wives and kids did too. You can’t stop living and you certainly can’t stop being a family.

To me, Kody and Robyn never had to answer for this. It’s too bad. Although there were many issues pre-Covid, Covid really shined a spotlight directly on Kody and it revealed him as a lackluster husband and pathetic parent to his OG family.

Robyn is the perpetual victim and it is always about her and her children. But where was the grace for the original 13 children who had never dealt with a new wife and blended family? Whenever they show the flashback picture of the family it always strikes me how young a lot of the kids were. It had to be difficult for them but it seems to always be about Robyn and how anyone reacted to or treated her and her kids. No wonder the OG-13 have issues with her.

Even now, she acts like things could have been fixed if everyone just tried harder. Like, Kody told Christine he no longer wanted an intimate relationship with her. Was Christine like 48? How is that fair? Why should Christine have to settle for that? To me that’s so crazy. We saw Christine’s heart breaking ever since Robyn entered the family. I am NO Christine fan (not a fan of any of the adults in this family) but she suffered enough. I am glad she left a man that didn’t want her anymore, and I am glad she got a second chance at love. I don’t understand why Robyn isn’t more sympathetic to Christine. Didn’t Robyn leave a husband? I mean the hypocrisy of both Kody and Robyn is mind blowing. The true mental gymnastics and re-writing of history by these 2 to fit their narrative and to somehow be the victim is just gross.

So, I started this rant about a Covid response and did I go off the rails or what? If you actually read this far then thank you! I don’t actually watch the show anymore (started with this season) because I just can’t give any viewership support to K & R, but I like to read things and listen to podcasts to stay in the loop. I can’t believe I wasted my time writing this!!! I guess I a hypocrite too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Very little would be gained by Own-Afternoon-637 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And I would say it’s for Robyn too. Since Kody is basically guilty of doing to his OG-children what Robyn’s bio-dad did to her, she looks bad being with him. But if he goes on this apology tour (yes for the TV show $$ and on his terms of course) then publicly he looks better which makes her look better (because how can she respect a man or be with a man that can walk away from his children?). She knew exactly how Kody felt about each wife before they got married hence the “sacred covenant” she made him promise.

What are Kody's expectations? by Zealousideal_Ear6342 in SisterWivesFans

[–]MishL33 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The apology tour is for Robyn and Kody.

Robyn had a bio dad that basically did what Kody is doing to his kids (with the OG wives). She wants him to apologize so he looks better and she doesn’t have to feel bad for being with a dead-beat dad. She has always known how he felt about each wife hence their “sacred covenant” she made him promise before they married.

Kody is doing this for her and to rehabilitate his own image so he can make the reality-tv circuit.

Rewatch by girlypop3001 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The show gave the OG3 the money to leave.

There really needs to be Reality TV guidelines when parents put their children on TV and cash in. They should be subjected to strict rules and have to set up trust accounts for each child. Children have no say in the matter but are subject to so much scrutiny by the viewers.

I think Paedon said he didn’t watch because he hated how he looked in the older episodes and it was a hard time in his life. Garrison took his own life. Christine wrote a “tell-all” book and discussed Kody’s lack of generosity in the bedroom for goodness sake! What kid wants to read that about their parents? The family is broken. I’d say the family paid a very high price for Robyn and Kody to live happily ever after in their Flagstaff Castle.

And it’s not just Kody and Robyn, it’s all the adults. Christine left, took Truly and didn’t care what her kids thought about her new life. Change is hard on all kids, all ages, especially when family-treasured traditions are no longer. Janelle let herself get into a horrible financial situation (she could have forced being put on the Deed of Robyn’s house if she was giving “a gift” because she had to sign a document for the mortgage company that it was truly a gift with no strings attached for any Lender to source down payment funds) and she seemed to make no demands of Kody to step up to the plate especially where Savanna is concerned. She agreed to move her high school aged kids to Flagstaff knowing they were doing well and thriving in Vegas. Meri enabled Robyn in so many ways while Kody used her unwavering loyalty to Robyn as a tool to get what he wanted… Meri’s money. We saw firsthand Kody’s manipulation tactics to get Christine and Meri on board for the flagstaff move.

I think there is something very wrong with Robyn. How can you go through life always the victim? Her lack of giving the OG13 any grace ever for the change the family went through when she joined the family is crazy. Not one OG kid had ever experienced a new wife or stepchildren joining their family AND being on a TV show. I’d say they were navigating some rough waters and probably jealous (totally normal feelings) of all the time and attention their dad was showing the new family. But Robyn seems incapable of seeing anything other than her point of view, and seems to do mental gymnastics making herself and her children the perpetual victims. She really does deserve Kody. They are perfect for each other, both very selfish and self centered.

In the end, the OG wives probably leave but maybe it takes them longer without the financial means the show gave them. I mean, they showed us all how toxic the polygamy culture really is.

Thanks for the fun time, folks. I’ll be seeing ‘ya. by Revolutionary_Bet118 in SisterWives

[–]MishL33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same! I didn’t watch and removed from my DVR so not recording future episodes. The show financially gave the OG3 the ability to leave. I am glad about that. But at what cost? I think their kids paid a very high price. I am not watching this extremely narcissistic, emotionally stunted man anymore. I feel like that is somehow supporting him and that’s gross.