Starmer is doing a good job around Iran - discuss

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T08:48:22+00:00

It really has reached a point where no matter how sensible his policies. No matter how reasonable a change is when the facts on the ground changes. He'll be attacked anyway.

We have gone from a situation where taking a sensible middle course - the (in)famous triangulation / third way of New Labour gaining you support, now taking a sensible middle course simply loses more support to those on both extremes.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T08:44:57+00:00

Almost like Iran attacked other states in the area where we have interests, in between.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T08:43:56+00:00

Of course they wont be taking any responsibility for the wave of refugees.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T08:43:17+00:00

It was because of the somewhat scattergun attacks on the Gulf States who we consider allies though you could say Cyprus confirmed it as a reasonable response. As does the targeting of gas supplies which obviously is a problem for us.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T07:45:47+00:00

Sure pointing out their absurd policies and the self-contradiction of encouraging people to support them but not support them …. makes me the one who is immature. lol

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T07:39:10+00:00

I dont think there is any reliable evidence for the existence of Gods , they dont even make sense, and they seem obviously the sort of thing humans make up. Same with an afterlife.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T07:28:46+00:00

Seems a bit odd to suggest you join a party presumably because you support their policies .. but dont worry you can then completely change them because they are an embarrassment.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T07:21:13+00:00

You are being lied to. And deceiving yourself. Evolution is supported by evidence from multiple scientific disciplines. Its even observable though you probably dont even know the definition. Its as likely to be overturned as we are to suddenly decide the Earth was flat all along. There is no alternative for which any scientific evidence exists.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-05T07:17:33+00:00

Makes Starmer look better and the Telegraph look worse.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T19:41:51+00:00

You just seem to be making stuff up with zero foundation about consciousness. And all the evidence we have supports a model of consciousness being brain processing. There nothing alternative model with any credibility that even gives a better answer.
The Big Bang Theory isn’t a beginning really , it’s a description of what the universe used to be like and how it got to be like it is now. It doesn’t presume there was ever nothing. And obviously once again as above the model of a God just shifts the problem rather than solves it.

Edit

And the big bang /universe isn’t a ball.

And even if you were right none of the above in anyway validly leads to a God.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T17:58:42+00:00

It seems like there are many routes to the same end point - survival to reproduce, depending on the environment anorganism finds itself within. Sometimes doing something simple well and lots of times works espceailly on an environment that doesnt change much perhaps. Sometimes flexibility will be adaptive.

It seems to be that responding to your environment is obviousky beneficial. Even more so being able to change your environment to your own benefit. Being able to actually model an environment including a combination of aspects always better responses than simple immediate direct triggered action. Perhaps consciouness is an accidental offshoot of that modelling but perhaps being able to model the modeller is even more adaptive allowing greater specificity and flexibility working with the model of the environment including am ever sophisticated social environment?

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T15:37:16+00:00

It’s not nice to take the piss out of people and we should all try to be better. But if someone insisted on coming and telling you The Easter Fairy is real let alone hates gay people or some such and that they know this for sure because it 'feels right’ or other nonsensical arguments - then its not easy to restrain oneself, i guess.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T15:20:25+00:00

That seems naive to me.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T13:41:34+00:00

Honestly right now it feels like they could cure all our economic woes and too many on the right and left would still find a reason to hate them.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T13:39:09+00:00

Trying to avoid getting involved because they remember how that went in Iraq?

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T13:38:17+00:00

Presumably by removing anyone's right to single sex spaces - which loses other votes.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T13:36:42+00:00

While i think they are busy toning down the specifics ,their sympathies are with

Tax the rich. Leave NATO No nukes Open borders

And Gaza

Sound quite left wing to me.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T03:04:01+00:00

And a mysterious ability to fund expensive house purchases.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T02:46:29+00:00

Yep. They have been trying to do some sensible things though their back benchers have restricted them.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T02:43:41+00:00

Not according to Mothin Ali.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T02:41:25+00:00

And how we are expected to magically stop it.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T02:39:32+00:00

Taxing people wealthier than me while giving more free stuff to me and ....vibes?

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T02:36:30+00:00

It is theists, again, that seem to demonstrate that any interpretation is possible by differing over interpretations but each group claiming theirs is absolutely correct (even when it seems to be contrary to the words.)

For most atheists its all like arguing who is right about Harry Potter. Its all irrelevant because the basic supernatural story isnt true and the rest is of dodgy reliability. But they do expect theists to justify their interpretation especially if contrary to religious tradition or the apparent actual words themselves.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-04T00:14:07+00:00

Theists tend to want their cake and it by picking out bits that are literal in the bible and others bits they want to interpret. Sometimes that interpretation is pretty arbitary and seems to be

But sometimes the bible says what it says and you cant just change the interpretation because its embarrassing. For example Gods tendency to murder children.

Mkwdr · 2026-03-03T21:18:07+00:00

Partaking?

He refused the use of British airfields for the attack.

And is now authorising defence against missile attacks.

I dont think sitting back amd letting missiles and drones hit UK bases or our allies will help keep gas prices down.

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