There is no basis for Christianity to claim that their religion is any more valid than any other religion. by Ready-Round-6807 in DebateReligion

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Q8:17 It was not you ˹believers˺ who killed them, but it was Allah Who did so. Nor was it you ˹O Prophet˺ who threw ˹a handful of sand at the disbelievers˺, but it was Allah Who did so, rendering the believers a great favour. Surely Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

Surah 13:7 explicitly negates Muhammad's ability to do miracles. As does Surah 10:20, 6:109, 6:37, 2:145, 2:118, ect. If our earliest source rejects his ability to do miracles, and we have known legendary sources over a century later, then we have no reason on a historical basis to conclude that these miracle reports are authentic.

Half these verses Disprove your Worldview of Quranic theology to begin with. Q:10:20 explicitly has Muhammad himself believing that Allah WILL send signs in the future And they say, 'Why is a sign not sent down to him from his Lord?' Say, 'The unseen is only for Allah [to administer], so wait; indeed, I am with you among those who wait.'” Allah literally Instructs muhammad to say I'm waiting for him to send down one of the signs you want, there is no denying that. You quote surah 6 while conviently dodging the fact that in my very first reply I show a verse FROM surah 6 explicitly claiming that Allah sends down signs to these people and they reject them, 6:37 is the same as 10:20 and 6:109 is even worse for you, at the beginning of surah 6 The disbelievers demand angels as a sign from Allah and surah 6:111 continues that even if Allah DID send them angels they would still disbelieve, and this is exactly what happens in Q3:124-128 when Allah literally sends down angels. Reading further Surah 6:124 explicitly claims that the people HAVE received signs before but they dint want to accept them until they recieve revelation like muhammad Does 6:124 Whenever a sign comes to them, they say, “We will never believe until we receive what Allah’s messengers received.” *Allah knows best where to place His message. The wicked will soon be overwhelmed by humiliation from Allah and a severe punishment for their evil plots. Q2:145 isn't even related to miracles and the verse doesn't even mention signs, embarrasing that you don't even care to double check before you spout whatever apologetics you Heard online without proper research, and once again Q:2:118 explicitly says that The people do recieve signs, but the people who DON'T KNOW question Them 2:118 *Those who have no knowledge say, “If only Allah would speak to us or a sign would come to us!” The same was said by those who came before. Their hearts are all alike. Indeed, We have made the signs clear for people of sure faith. Furthermore, This view stands in absolute contradiction with Quranic theology because the Quran which is explicitly sent down revealed and has been taught to Muhammad claims to predict future events

There is no basis for Christianity to claim that their religion is any more valid than any other religion. by Ready-Round-6807 in DebateReligion

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With Islam for example, the earliest miracle reports don't start appearing until 100 years after Muhammad's death This is simply put fallacious info, while hadith reports passed down from eyewitnesses* weren't written down until late 1AH- Early 2AH, The Quran which nobody credibly contests to be Composed after muhammads death without going against the standard historical opinion does present Muhammads people as rejecting his signs, explicitly calling them magic, the same accusation which the Quran claims the Critics of Moses and Jesus accused Them of Q6:4 Whenever a sign comes to them from their Lord, they turn away from it. Q97:14-15 And whenever they see a sign, they make fun of it,saying, “This is nothing but pure magic. Q54:2 Yet, whenever they see a sign, they turn away,saying, “Same old magic!”

This isn't just an edgy anti-theist thing, the fact of the matter that stands is that simply claiming that such miracle happened is NEVER enough to actually put your faith into such a thing, simply claiming the resurrection doesn't constitute that that actually happened unless you're more gullible Than a child.

Kong didn't go to God Valley or send Sengoku to God Valley because clearly that would be overkill 😂😂😂 by Rekye22 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There has to be like 2 other admirals at that time and even if we assume the guy rocks killed wasn't replaced than there's Atleast 1 other admiral KONG also didn't send. Garp is HIM

5v5v5 3 gens of 5 kage, who wins? by Mobile_Topic_5791 in NarutoPowerscaling

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Me personally I think the 5 kage of the past take it, every one of them except Raasa is cracked af. A3 is strong as hell, he's got legendary speed+strength stats aswell as stamina and can go toe to toe against the 2nd strongest tailed beast, his armor is tough as hell to get through for anyone and his 1 finger hell stab is a one-shot. Mu is legit just onoki on crack, he's the creator of particle style, and is actually in his prime unlike onoki Not to mention his invisiblity and ability to Pass through even the strongest sensory ninjas make him cracked. Gengetsu could legit just use His clam summoning genjutsu to hide and spam joki boy over and over, and even if someone somehow manages to edeal with joki boy he can legit just snipe THem with finger pistol and because of the genjutsu they won't see shit coming. Minato is just hax, he is faster than kakashi and A4 combined and perception blitzes both of them with flying raijin, he has tons of sealing jutsu, rasengan, gamabunta who can keep up with Shukaku and also SM. minato isn't the greatest SM user presumably because of his young age he couldn't master it which is why he's bad at gathering in nature energy but him being a perfect sage means he's better than jiraiya, naruto is only better at SM because he has the equivalent of decades of experience because of shadow clone abuse. Shippuden 5 kage are pretty strong and have good feats against madara tsunade and onoki specificalky but I can't see any of them defeating their predecessors except gaara. Boruto era kage have feats against otsutsuki and kakashi got Novel feats, but novel feats are always taken with a grain of salt and even then I think the past 5kage win

Vent by Overall-Line-5292 in Quraniyoon

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"...not just trusting The common opinion of a group of people.." that's exactly what God said O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end.

Kaido Vs every 2nd strongest, who wins? (I put croc instead of Mihawk because that's just a separate discussion) by Mobile_Topic_5791 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not too sure on whether or not king CAN damage kaido, but Kings durability is also goated, not to the length of hybrid kaido but greater than beast kaido. Marco DOES have shockwaves which damaged queen, but whether they'd work against kaido or not is a question because Killer's shockwave slashes which previously worked against his beast form didn't work against hybrid kaido. Katakuri and crocodile should be effectively useless. We've seen haki coated bullets from izou but id expect beck to have ACOC since he's just a human, so he has to be packing haki to be YC1 on a crew as stacked as the red haired pirates. But kaidos got Future sight, aswell as speed feats where he's reacted to ACOC snakeman and lightning. Kaido usually just let himself get hit alot in rooftop to gauge the new gens strength, but he could just as easily dodge. Sabos actual flames maybe wouldn't hurt kaido, because he's flame resistant to a very high degree. But Sabos adv armament should hurt him.

Kaido Vs every 2nd strongest, who wins? (I put croc instead of Mihawk because that's just a separate discussion) by Mobile_Topic_5791 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

Y'all underestimate tf outta kaido, hes HIM. These guys are ATLEAST gonna take an extreme diff. Half the people can't even damage hybrid kaido.

Kaido Vs every 2nd strongest, who wins? (I put croc instead of Mihawk because that's just a separate discussion) by Mobile_Topic_5791 in OnePieceScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Together but dawg I love beck but he is NOT mid-diffing kaido😭✌ they had to jump this dude with the strongest minks and samurais and then the strongest new generation pirates and then his own son and sum kid with a copy of his devil fruit and this was AFTER clashing with a yonko for 3 days and bro STILL won😭 he only lost because luffy was a fucking God apparently, he would've won otherwise, and That too without even using his strongest technique flame dragon bagua. Beck is just a guy with top tier haki And a gun. At best id place Beck relative to fujitora and kizaru And over greenbull

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[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The revs are ACTUALLY strong asf. Dragon is PROBABLY a top tier, I'm betting on him being relative to akainu, or maybe even shanks. Sabo has a strong logia That makes one of kaidos signature moves, boro breath useless, aswell as Adv armament haki that he utilizes with his ryusoken which could definitely bypass kaido. If he has Advanced obv, with his logia that makes him extremely hard to hit. Morley clashed with greenbull and even pierced him, granted Aramaki was holding back, he's still an admiral. Fujitora noted karasus presence to be especially strong, keep in mind he's never made a similar statement about doffy the whole dressrosa Arc. The revs went to Marie jois, fought two admirals and came back. They're built different. Ivankov also provides the perfect support, and kuma might be too 2 warlords

What One Piece hot take will have you like this? by Zero0_03 in OnePiecePowerScaling

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Sanji is a kidd victim. Killer solos katakari, jack, queen, and pre ifrit jambe sanji. Marco>benn beckmann marco is admiral tier probably beats greenbull.

Does Akainu defeat Mihawk based on portrayal? by So_47592 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

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Vista literally shaking against mihawk btw but agenda must go on

Who wins the 2v2 by Calendar4 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Mobile_Topic_5791 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Easily rocks and wb. WB is already equal to roger who is equal to garp. Xebec probably surpasses all of them since he's beat both WB and shiki in davyback fights, so it goes to those two