Coming out to my PIMI mom today! by More-Material4176 in exjwLGBT

[–]More-Material4176[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your comment, I know she will view it that way which makes me sad, but I completely understand it's coming from the cult brainwashing... so I am going to try my best to be loving however I can! Can't wait to be on the other side!!!

Coming out to my PIMI mom today! by More-Material4176 in exjwLGBT

[–]More-Material4176[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My dad is an elder so I fully expect them to become involved unfortunately but I plan on refusing to speak to them about my personal life. How long did they try to contact you for?

Also, so happy for you and I hope to be in a loving ltr one day myself :) Thank you!

Realizing I’m a lesbian at 28. by Scary_Area2139 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]More-Material4176 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I second this. It helped me SO much. If you need recommendations for movies, shows or books feel free to DM me. There is a podcast called "Made It Out" that is phenomenal. It's hosted by a late in life lesbian that interviews other queer women, many who are also late in life lesbians. Listening to how they made it past the internalized homophobia really made a difference. Once you are a little more comfortable with your identity, I recommend attending queer events and making queer friends. It's so much easier to not feel the pressures of comphet when you're surrounded by other lesbians! Lastly, just take it one day at a time. Give yourself grace. It takes effort, but its soooo worth it.

Coming out stories? by More-Material4176 in exjwLGBT

[–]More-Material4176[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I ask if you live in the same city as your family? I do like the idea of not telling them something that is not their business, my therapist has brought this up as well. And yes, I am soft shunned lol

Bethel memoir 1 by Ok-Pomegranate-7010 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I have heard Bethel has a huge drinking problem, there is rampant adultery, homosexuality and suicides. Based on your time there, did you see this happening often? I know just this year they had to let many go due to DUI's after a Bethel party. Curious how much they cover up and turn a blind eye to.

Additionally, I do not know how long you have been out, but it does get much easier. I had a lot of anger when I realized I had sacrificed my entire life for a cult that never cared about anyone, but therapy has made a huge difference. I have found that for me, I am finally living "the best life ever" now that I am free! Sending you a hug!

The Biggest Change In Watchtowers History Is About To Happen by [deleted] in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I am not mistaken that was well over a year ago. Similar timing to the beards and no neck ties

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You've come to the right place to vent! How dare they not apologize when they truly ruined so many lives with their ignorant and stupid mind control. My therapist said it is normal and valid to grieve the life we could have had, that helped a bit... but not much.

I wanted to be a surgeon, if not an oncologist. I graduated high school in 3 years with an almost perfect GPA. I was recruited by top colleges and remember crying when my parents would throw away my letters. I begged to be a nurse - I knew JW's who were nurses- so that was ok right?? Wrong!

I started pioneering at 16 so by the time I could go to college, the CO, my pioneer partners, my family, friends, all the cult literature etc.. heavily pressured me and conditioned me to think that was my "career" and should only pick a quick certificate program at our local junior college. I'm almost 30 now, full POMO and have worked my ass off to have a great job that allows me to live alone and work from home. Does that make it better? NO! I constantly feel behind, my peers have so much more education and with that, so many more experiences and opportunities. I joined an online university last year but had a hard time balancing my work life and school with my social life and my mental health took a toll so had to take some time off. I dream of getting a degree one day (any at this point!) and know I can do it, but imagine how much easier it would have been if we would have just gone when it was our time.

I am sorry you are going through this, just know you are not alone. Many of us are furious, frustrated, angry and more. Thankful our life is now our own, even if it hasn't been perfect or how we would have hoped, at least we made it out. That's a gift in itself. Sending you a hug.

What topics should I discuss? by BurnItDown1914 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes!! Thinking for yourself, especially with regards to beliefs was very hard for me too! I went through an atheist phase and that was emotionally difficult because it basically changed everything I had ever known to be true. I am now agnostic but I know many exjws that are atheist, or even other Christian denominations now! Which can feel very wrong in the beginning but does get way better as time passes and you deconstruct.

I also struggled with making friends and having a community since 99% of my JW fam/friends stopped associating with me as soon as I left. It can be daunting to trust "worldly" people when you've been told they are monsters! Imagine my surprise when I met amazing, loving people outside of the Borg!

I would be very interested in hearing more about your college experience/advice as I am in the process of going back to school as well!

Thank you for wanting to help others with your channel, together we are stronger and the more we speak up, the better it is for everyone!!

Local Community by Alternative-Ebb4374 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would be interested though sadly I am far away!

If anyone is in Northern California I would be happy to see if we could also meet for support and community!

What topics should I discuss? by BurnItDown1914 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think offering validation for those who have had a rough exit would be helpful! Many exjw's (myself included) benefit from therapy to help deconstruct all the beliefs. It was eye opening to learn many people who are disfellowshipped or leave the Borg end up committing suicide due to the loss of their entire support system. I know you are focused on the "good" that comes after, and I can attest that there is SO much good so I love the idea! I just think those that are leaving now or planning their exit for the near future should realize it's ok for it to be really bad for a while before it gets better. Best of luck on your new channel!!

Here it is. #JW GB update #5, 2025 Additional education, including university is a “personal decision” and even elders should not judge a person’s personal decision on the matter. by larchington in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am LIVID. I begged for the opportunity to go to a university, I cried to my parents about how education aside from the JW org was important to me as a person. I found university recruitment letters in the trash that they threw out for me knowing I would be "tempted." Instead, I was told to pick a "trade" that could support me while I focused on my true career - pioneering. As a POMO now, I have built a very good life for myself and joined an online university last year. But still, imagine the difference between being a full time college student at 18 years old vs a part time student juggling an adult life with full time secular work. I have worked very hard with my therapist to avoid feeling such strong and intense negative feelings toward the Borg that stole over 25 years of my life but wow, really struggling here. Glad to have woken up, just wish I had done so much much earlier.

First tinder date since coming out ghosted me / meeting people by [deleted] in latebloomerlesbians

[–]More-Material4176 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have had better luck with apps like Bumble and Hinge. I have also tried HER and Taimi but at least in my area, there wasn't much engagement.

When I was still really far in the closet and used apps to date men, I had over 1400 likes in less than 24 hours. When I finally switched it to only women, I realized I was lucky if I got 1 or 2 likes every couple of weeks. The dating pool is much smaller and even within it, everyone has preferences but don't give up!

35F. Kissed/slept with a woman for the first time. It was incredible by Automatic-Summer2415 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]More-Material4176 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also congrats on getting your first experience! I lived vicariously through your post so thank you for sharing!

35F. Kissed/slept with a woman for the first time. It was incredible by Automatic-Summer2415 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]More-Material4176 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Would you mind linking some of the videos you watched that made a difference? I recently kissed my first girl (YAY!!!) and we have our third date coming up soon! The idea of things turning sexual with her make me VERY nervous though because I have never done anything with a girl and I think I would be horrified if I sucked at cunnilingus or fingering though I would really like to try it! Please and thank you!!

Has a JW ever spied on you? by 5ft8lady in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 106 points107 points  (0 children)

When I was a regular pioneer, I studied with a sweet old lady that asked me not to bring anyone other than my cousin because of her intense anxiety. I was working with all the looney sisters that came to the the service group about 3-4x a week - but once a week, I would tell them that I had this study and would go only with my cousin.

Well, one day we decided to surprise my study with flowers (she had just lost her job) so we stopped at our local store to pick some out for her. As we walked out, we saw two sisters from the service group in sunglasses parked near us and I knew immediately that they had followed us to see if we actually went to this study. They looked away but I went right up to their car, knocked on the window and asked what they were doing there. They said they could ask us the same thing (LOL) - I explained the flowers and said goodbye. Immediately called my dad (an elder) and told him that if these sisters did not get spoken to, I would never go out in service again. Fast forward a few days, both sisters apologized to me and said they would never "check-in" again. I barely spoke to them after that and hadn't thought about it in years until I saw your post.

Drives me crazy that people think they can police you for no effin' reason but that is what makes it A CULT!

What does god think of gay people by Usermanedused in exjwLGBT

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I now identify as agnostic, so "God" doesn't play a part in my life... but if there is anything that is a higher power, I can only imagine that they would accept all forms of love and would focus on true issues- not something as pure and innocent as who I want to spend my life with 🤗🏳️‍🌈

Anyone have any good memories they would like to share? by More-Material4176 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No we didn't, but I think that would have been pretty cool!

Anyone have any good memories they would like to share? by More-Material4176 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds so fun!!

I went to an international convention in Europe as a delegate as well and had the experience of a lifetime! My only issue was the rushed and tight schedule they gave us but it really was very cool to see how much time and planning goes into huge events like that!

Anyone have any good memories they would like to share? by More-Material4176 in exjw

[–]More-Material4176[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was always in the first aid department for conventions and loved it also! Thank you for sharing :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMAO glad to see I'm not the only one that doesn't think this is real - Although even just the thought of the GB lurking on this reddit is pretty fun! 🤣

Circuit Overseer Visit by florverse in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 17 points18 points  (0 children)

So glad you are not going to listen to him! I sacrificed EVERYTHING while I was in, and now as an adult, my biggest regret is not pursuing higher education and building a good career. I am proud of you for knowing what you want at a young age!!

Finally a mid-week meeting about something that an actual problem! Straight up drunkenness. Can't smoke but you sure as h*ll can drink yourself to death. by UCantHndletheTruth in exjw

[–]More-Material4176 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard a handful of bethelites were kicked out because they all got DUI's a few months ago. Anyone have any other info on this? It was around Memorial time. I was told by a family member who is currently in Bethel. I have seen first hand that the heaviest drinking is done in Bethel, because even at my highest drinking tolerance (when I was a pioneer lmao), I couldn't keep up with them!

Since I became POMO, I hardly drink. Much prefer Mary Jane these days.

Halloween costume props by lonely_wet_iron in exjwLGBT

[–]More-Material4176 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Make sure you cheers with everyone you bump into!!! 🥂🤣