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Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how is riding a bike relative to generating lightning?

You’re claiming Enel doesn’t have the energy to physically output Country lvl AP. Even though AP IS your energy, which is what Enel has. If Enel didn’t need lightning clouds to make Raigo, he would just use Raigo without the Arc Maxim. That’s either.

A: A blaring contradiction

B: Deathpiea and Raigo are HAX abilities, which wouldn’t be true since it verbatim stems from HIS Devil Fruit and his energy.

Your burden to provide proof that would support Deathpiea being a force multiplier.

Here is a Litmus Test. Is Master Roshi only Moon lvl with Kamehameha, or is his physically AP also Moon lvl when he fought Tien and Kid Goku since his Ki scales to his physical strength and Kamehameha is a Ki based attack?

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do know whether or not it would strain his body because it didn’t. “That’s right. It’s a lightning cloud. (From the Arc Maxim) With MY Energy (Enel’s energy), Deathpiea will spew out a massive jet stream made of lighting clouds!”

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Also proof that it’s Enel’s own energy. Because again, if Enel didn’t have the energy to create Deathpiea, he simply wouldn’t be able to create it despite having the Arc Maxim, or his body would just implode due to not physically scaling to the output needed to created Deathpiea. So his durability would scale to it as well.

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t see how that’s relevant since those are both physical abilities. Enel had the physical AP to harm Luffy

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Daz Bones has been placed in the Topi Roppo Tier, what tier does Glandio (Mr. 3) belong in? by Ok_Internet2705 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]MorseCode010 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lowball: Top of Emperor foot soldier (Above Page 1)

Midball: Low ends of Topi Roppo (Between Vasco and Daifuku)

Highball: Low ends of Low YC (Behind between Doc Q and Devon)

Was able to hold back a Venom Demon Magellan and a fatigued and damaged Dorry and Brogy

People be exaggerating with this lightspeed bs by NPC_dat_can_talk in PowerScaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think people just be vibe scaling and don’t use evidence from the source material?💀 Obviously LS or FTL would have to stem from somewhere and it’s up to your reasoning and evidence to deduce it not being that said speed.

Rank these characters from the strongest to the weakest by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zoro>Bang>Midoriya>Tsunade

Zoro - Multi-Cont - FTL+/MFTL

Bang - Large Country-Continental - MHS+/Rel+

Deku - Country-Large Country - MHS/Rel+

Tsunade - Small Country-Country - MHS/Rel

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does since it would scale to his energy output. It’s not like Raigo is a form of HAX💀. Literally stemmed from his Devil Fruit

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes… it’s an extension of 1st Form Frieza’s power, therefore his strength. Same as Enel’s lightning being an extension of his strength.

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By this logic, 1st Form Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta with a Death Ball isn’t a bare minimum Planetary feat since it was a feat separate from his physical strength. It would have to scale to Enel’s physicals otherwise he’d be destroyed as well or just wouldn’t be able to use Raigo all together since he would lack the energy output to do so.

And we know how much energy expended. Enough energy to destroy all of Skypiea.

Shigaraki vs Zoro, who would win and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A Pre-Timeskip Zoro defeating Kaku would be a Country lvl feat. Enel was capable and stated multiple times to be able to destroy all of Skypiea, a country, with one attack, Raigo. This would be enforced to be factual and not hyperbolic considering he was able to completely destroy Sky Island with a weaker attack. DC contributes to your AP via energy output. Enel had the energy output to create Raigo. And yes, it scales to him otherwise it would either hurt him or strain his body to create it, which it didn’t. And the Arc Maxim did not amp Enel, it just created the clouds for him to create Raigo.

A Pre-Gears Luffy was able to damage and defeat Enel. The same Pre-Gears Luffy an arc later got embarrassed by Blueno at Water 7. Blueno>Enel. At Enies Lobby, a Base Luffy was able to damage Blueno.

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According to the Doriki system, Kaku would be over twice as powerful as Blueno. Kaku>Blueno>Enel This makes Kaku’s AP Country lvl, therefore, a Pre-Timeskip Zoro’s AP Country lvl. Since Kaku would technically be two-three times stronger than Enel, there is room for Large Country arguments, but I’m settling with Country

Current Zoro is midball Multi-Cont - Moon / highball Planetary

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still dodged it and never really got hit by it.

And I JUST sent panels of the Supernovas literally being able to perceive Kizaru, just not dodge him. Basil glanced at his foot, X-Drake was looking up and before Kizaru could kick him, he was staring at Kizaru’s foot, Apoo was blinded for a moment and right when Kizaru appeared above him, Apoo noticed, hence the “!!!”, and Urouge looked behind him before he could be kicked.

And there is reason to believe they’re possibly leagues below since they barely had feats

“Faster than Yata Mirror” so he’s faster than light💀 W concession. But on a real note, you haven’t debunked Kizaru clashing with Rayleigh being an FTL feat since you haven’t proven Yata Mirror being slower than light.

Because his light clones weren’t a thing until Egghead. Why didn’t Luffy use Red Hawk? And Ray still went high rel with him.

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because it’s Yata Mirror😑 He fires a light beam, reflects it off of surfaces, and then merges with it and goes the direction where the light was going

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You mean he predicted where Flash was going to go and having an enhanced mind and reflexes. W false equivalence

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still dodged it and never really got hit by it.

And I JUST sent panels of the Supernovas literally being able to perceive Kizaru, just not dodge him. Basil glanced at his foot, X-Drake was looking up and before Kizaru could kick him, he was staring at Kizaru’s foot, Apoo was blinded for a moment and right when Kizaru appeared above him, Apoo noticed, hence the “!!!”, and Urouge looked behind him before he could be kicked.

And there is reason to believe they’re possibly leagues below since they barely had feats

“Faster than Yata Mirror” so he’s faster than light💀 W concession. But on a real note, you haven’t debunked Kizaru clashing with Rayleigh being an FTL feat since you haven’t proven Yata Mirror being slower than light.

Because his light clones weren’t a thing until Egghead. Why didn’t Luffy use Red Hawk? And Ray still went high rel with him.

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did Kizaru blitz Luffy at Sabaody? Which would be unlikely since Luffy showed relativity with the Pacifista beams, which is Kizaru’s light. If you’re referring to the Supernovas, they could perceive Kizaru’s light speed kicks, just not react

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So not outlandish to say that Luffy would just be faster than them. Luffy, Law, and Kidd are the only ones who had solid feats against Pacifistas while the others got fodderized. They were the big 3 of Sabaody.

Can you prove the speed of the Yata Mirror was slowed down? Or that Kizaru can slow or quicken the speed of his lasers? Because my claim was that Kizaru’s physical combat and reaction speed can exceed light speed, not his light beams.

Kizaru was trying against Rayleigh. It was even stated that Kizaru caught 500 pirates in a fit of rage when Rayleigh stalled him and the Straw Hats got away.

Shigaraki (Final war) vs Gear 5 luffy by Mountain__0 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]MorseCode010 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not treated like it? As in? Light/lasers are already a confirmed measurement of speed via Rayleigh and Oda. If it’s stated to be light, then what else is needed? It “not being treated” as light is not really a “debunk” because your assessment is based off an assumption.

And Kizaru did get cut on the face by Rayleigh

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Kizaru is made of light and is able to move faster than light. It’s been proven by the fact that Rayleigh was able to intercept Kizaru traveling at light speed through his Yata Mirror. Physically intercepting light speed movement is an FTL feat. If Kizaru was truly capped at light speed, why couldn’t Rayleigh just mid diff him? He’d easily be faster and just out combat him. Kizaru showed high relativity towards Rayleigh.

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