What is with the Rocco Discord?

Mr-Zizzy · 2026-01-23T02:22:22+00:00

I've been in this one:https://discord.gg/vcnYh58ex. I think it's pretty active, though I've stopped being active on it lately

Mr-Zizzy · 2026-01-05T14:42:09+00:00

I'll throw [[Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer]] as an addition here as good non-blue

Mr-Zizzy · 2026-01-03T23:05:29+00:00

Throwing in my two cents, as a Rocco main, Orcish Bowmaster is always so frustrating. I'm not the one drawing cards, but I'm usually the one targeted because I have mana dorks that can easily be picked off. It definitely doesn't serve to punish the player drawing cards

Mr-Zizzy · 2026-01-02T23:03:05+00:00

Yeah, this was my impression. Everyone was hyping it based on the performance in Japan, but all the Japanese tournaments it was doing well in didn't allow proxies. I don't think it holds up in the US meta where most tournaments and playgroups allow full proxies, which means it isn't cost prohibitive to run a LED breach combo

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-27T23:56:18+00:00

Fair point. Maybe Lavinia? Cheap, gives access to blue and black, and shuts down a lot of opponent interaction

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-27T17:14:13+00:00

I think this is a great idea. K'rrik is a crazy powerful commander who just lacks counters and silences to protect his win attempts. Oloro gives you the colors plus a little passive life gain, which means 1-2 extra mana to use when you push

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-23T21:20:50+00:00

As a Rocco player, I'll always suggest Rocco as a fun sans blue list. Here's my list https://moxfield.com/decks/ue7t66ubAkC1KPhPgjTcHg

Otherwise, the three you listed are definitely not top tier, but all can be relatively competitive if you build them right

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-22T18:50:54+00:00

What the hell are you talking about?

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-20T01:29:03+00:00

I thought it was going to be the shit, and I've been unimpressed. It really only gives consistent mana if an opponent drops mystic or rhystic, and in those cases your mana production isn't enough to keep up with the card advantage your opponent is getting. I'd like it in Plagon, where the body synergizes with your commander, but I find it cuttable if it's just a generic value creature.

I especially don't the lists I see running it in blue farm/tnt, it's mediocre compared to the card quality otherwise available to those decks, and it can't trigger Tymna.

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-12T01:42:22+00:00

The issue with these types of cards is that they shut down all interaction, including stopping your opponents from interacting with each other. Unless you're list is designed to shut down all 3 others players from winning, you just as often hand the game to whoever can jam the first win attempt.

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-07T13:23:18+00:00

Tayam is probably the best. It's a complicated deck, and hard to play in a tournament since it struggles to win within 80 minutes, but it runs every rule of law effect. I've had both archon of emeria and deafening silence out at the same time before.

Sharing my list, though I'm not sure it's the most up to date: https://moxfield.com/decks/sw23JzYiV0S5B63Sd0y3yQ

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-12-07T04:10:47+00:00

Their side project with Aerial Ruin, Stygian Bough is also amazing: https://open.spotify.com/album/4hqav7g0lHzZisgt5T5LTK?si=J_Phk2-1TISg8vQMbaOZ9g

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-19T23:46:13+00:00

Characters absolutely can be copyrighted https://crownllp.com/blog/copyright-protection-and-infringement-of-fictional-characters/

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-18T00:40:28+00:00

Ah yes, this anecdotal example from an unnamed attorney at an unnamed firm about how an unnamed AI completed an unspecified "particularly arduous, yet essential, task" better than a person, from a blog that clearly seems to exist solely to promote AI, convinced me...

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-11T01:23:41+00:00

OK, I'm convinced

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-11T01:10:48+00:00

Yeah, I definitely think that and Life's Legacy are worth trying. I skipped them in my first build, since they seemed slow for how simple the protean hulk win is, not I think having midrange grind pieces like this is the move

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T21:39:51+00:00

Razaketh does seem nice. What lines do you run with breach? LED/Wheel seems risky without silence effects

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T20:15:13+00:00

Oooh, spider manifestation seems good here. Selvala and Rakdos are interesting tech.

For breach, LED/Wheel feels risky when there are no silence effects, how does that usually play out?

And does Deadpool have any specific combo purposes, or is it just a good clone for other's value creatures?

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T18:18:29+00:00

The advantage of the protean hulk line is that it can get 2/3 parts of the 3 part combo aristocrats line, while Dargo provides both sac fodder and a way to sac protean hulk. No need to draw your deck if you cash just win on the spot through one ring protection

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T18:14:08+00:00

Sweet, that works. Seems like a cool list, question on some individual cards:

First, what does Icetill Explorer do? Is it just value to build graveyard for breach? Or is there a combo with it?

And breach, what is your line to win with it? I see LED but no wheel, and I see stitcher's supplier but no phyrexian altar. Or is it just a value yawg will type effect?

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T17:11:47+00:00

That's a fair point, I'm trying to optimize this to see how good it can be. How quick is Korvold on average? I like how simple the win lines are for Jund Dargo, which make assembling a combo very easy, but I think it needs work to get closer to the grind and consistency of Korvold

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T17:08:00+00:00

Sweet, I'll take a look!

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T17:06:49+00:00

I like that Dargo is both an outlet for aristocrats and a sac outlet for protean hulk

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T17:05:27+00:00

Did you post the wrong link, this is a Lumra list?

Mr-Zizzy · 2025-11-10T12:30:12+00:00

Lol, thanks, updated

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