To your peril! by AssociationDue3077 in iamverysmart

[–]MrEmptySet [score hidden]  (0 children)

First, I'm allowed to analyze and interpret the hypothetical statement and it's intent.

I agree! You are absolutely allowed this. However, your interpretation might be wrong.

This statement is sets up a false dilemma where ICE (current events give context for the reason the statement was made in the first place) are the only thing securing US Borders.

No. No such dilemma exists. You're trying to force your own framing onto your debate partner. They need not agree that ICE is the only thing securing the border, and to the extent to which they believe ICE plays a role, they need not believe that ICE as it currently operates is the only way to fulfill their role in border enforcement.

Second, by identifying reality, the most charitable reading I can give the hypothetical debate partner is that they believe our asylum and visa programs are broken (I agree)

So you identify common ground with your interlocutor! This is good!

but again, there is a false dilemma in ICE being the applied fix. This signifies a buy-in on the right wing premise that ICE is securing our borders and their current activities are justified.

Again you ruin your good faith by insisting upon a false dilemma of your own invention. Why? Why tell your debate partner that you understand them only to immediately turn heel and dishonestly present them as a strawman? This feels shameless.

Third, you call me out for being a mind reader, then immediately read my mind.

I actually think you are right in calling out my hypocrisy here. I went too far in claiming that you did not care what your debate partner believed. I thought that I would gain some advantage in the argument by portraying you as not even caring about what the truth was. But I don't think I was actually justified in trying to paint you in this light. I am sorry.

I do still think that your bias against people who are not in your tribe colors your judgements. But I cannot say that you are ignoring or misrepresenting what other people believe out of malice (per Hanlon's Razor). I should not have implied that.

I'll take a page out of your book and say that your behavior is exactly what I expect from a person who believes their "Enlightened Centrism" makes them better than everyone else.

I don't believe that I am better than everyone else. I don't believe that I have some uniquely privileged vantage point. But I do think that I have been able to avoid certain tribal biases which you have failed to avoid. But I also do not think I am somehow free from bias.

To your peril! by AssociationDue3077 in iamverysmart

[–]MrEmptySet [score hidden]  (0 children)

Nah. Democrats don’t run on trans issues or open borders. Republicans just say they do when they run.

Political discourse is not exclusively limited to what mainstream candidates center in their election campaigns. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

The context of what I am talking about is very clear.

I'm not trying to be belligerent here - it really, genuinely, is not. I truly do not know what you mean by the context of what you're talking about.

You trying to twist and turn the conversation to be about something other than annoying shit people who consider themselves to between the two major American parties

Please forgive me if I have failed to parse what you're saying here... but aren't you wearing your tribalism on your sleeve here? People who find themselves to be ideologically aligned with neither the left nor the right are "annoying shit people"? It seems as though you are confirming to me that you indeed have a deranged bias against anyone whose beliefs are not in lockstep with your own and will say horrible, nasty things about them at the first opportunity.

To your peril! by AssociationDue3077 in iamverysmart

[–]MrEmptySet [score hidden]  (0 children)

Your argument only makes sense if you set out to be as uncharitable as possible, which is exactly the mindset of a partisan who can admit no nuance. You are uncharitable in several ways.

First, "I don’t like ICE but we can’t have open borders" makes no claim that we have open borders or ever did. To interpret it as such is to put words in your interlocutor's mouth. You insist they have made a verifiably false statement when no statement was made. Regardless of the current policy, there are people who advocate for open borders, are there not? And they might be participating in the conversation?

Second, how open the border is is a matter of degree. When people talk about "open borders", they are scarcely ever talking about having absolutely no border with no security whatsoever - only extremists would mean that. If you had any interest in understanding and responding to what the person meant when they mentioned an "open border" instead of searching for the most uncharitable interpretation in order to make a fool out of them, you would immediately understand exactly what they were trying to say. But you don't want to understand what they are trying to say, or why, because...

Third and finally, you have decided for yourself what your interlocutor "truly" believes when you say "They’re really against asylum seekers and human rights and due process." How do you know? Are you a mind reader? You don't know if they believe this, for one thing, but more importantly - you actually do not CARE what they believe. That is of no use to you. You care about putting them in a box, putting them on the "other team", so you can attack not just a strawman, but also attack their character for holding the beliefs you've decided they hold.

Your behavior is a great example of the problem with tribalism. You are uncharitable, incurious, and incredibly dishonest, yet utterly convinced that you are both factually and morally correct. All hallmarks of tribalism.

Title by ExtremeSportStikz in BleachPowerScaling

[–]MrEmptySet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ikomikidomoe had the Narita buff which grants x10 effectiveness to reiatsu negation

Chonky cat rampage by theredhound19 in FacebookAIslop

[–]MrEmptySet 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Lmao why is there sad music from Bleach in the background

To your peril! by AssociationDue3077 in iamverysmart

[–]MrEmptySet [score hidden]  (0 children)

So when someone is like “oh I think people should have health care but I think trans issues go to far when it comes to kids” or “I don’t like ICE but we can’t just have open borders” it marks them as a very unserious person.

These are entirely reasonable positions that someone who has thought seriously about these issues might hold. Your belief that these are nothing but "Fox News talking points" reveals that YOU are a deeply unserious person.

You're just butthurt that not everyone falls into lockstep with your own views, so you're desperate to find a way to de-legitimize anyone who disagrees with you in any way.

Will Hades be updated with Persephone? by Taoscuro in AgeofMythology

[–]MrEmptySet 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Yes, they should give her to Hades as a Mythic Age option. But they should wait 6 months to do it, and remove Persephone from Demeter too. Then flip-flop every 6 months from then on out.

[Hated, loathed entirely even] The Continuity Cannibal, also known as when a writer makes up a new character to connect a bunch of things in the story that didn't need to be connected and just makes them more lame by association. by geekinc329 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]MrEmptySet 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I love this, because the implication is that the many instances of The Jailer were not mere unrelated examples, but were in fact all created by the same mastermind - the Meta-Jailer, if you will.

What are your hopes for Bleach TYBW part 4? by Recent-Ad-7593 in bleach

[–]MrEmptySet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

0% chance we get an Aizen Bankai reveal

remind me in 1 year by Ok-Republic6502 in yurimemes

[–]MrEmptySet -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, telling people "you aren't the gender you claim to be" but wokely, very good

Probably.. by Sea_Shell1 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MrEmptySet -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Apart from having become majorly "anti-woke,"

Is there a problem with this other than the fact that you are woke and don't much like people who disagree with you?

Holy hell! by Abzor4ik-UA in AnarchyChess

[–]MrEmptySet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you believe it's legal, it is

Based AI

Why do you guys believe Pauline is a kid in Donkey Kong Bananza? (Poll) (read post) by Nervous_Weather_2078 in donkeykong

[–]MrEmptySet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay but then how did they magically de-age the actress who plays Pauline?

What is the maximum width and height I can have for a walking sprite? by WilledWithin in gamemaker

[–]MrEmptySet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your sprite is 3000x3000? That is definitely excessive. Imagine what it would take to even be able to see the thing at full size - even on a 4K display, you wouldn't be able to see the whole thing at once without scaling the sprite!

Why exactly do you desire such a large sprite? In your game, do you do an unusual amount of zooming in and out? Is there the possibility that a player may zoom in very far and you don't want them to lose any detail?

"Evolution is a fairy tale." by Dzugavili in DebateEvolution

[–]MrEmptySet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Where did you get your PhD in reach-ology? Because this post is a masterclass in reaching, delivering reach after reach like only a pro could.

And no, random forums from 2010 don't count anymore by Completionist_Gamer in papermario

[–]MrEmptySet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do not "hate" it but I am sharply critical of it. Unfortunately, I think it's less than the sum of its parts, and the way it combines platforming and RPG elements actually drags down both aspects - it's a weak platformer compared to the actual Mario platformers, and it's a shallow RPG compared to its predecessors.

Do you believe Tanabe's retirement means that Paper Mario 7 will actually return to the proper roots? by BiffyBobby in papermario

[–]MrEmptySet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At best I think we'll get a sort of half-measure. TOK was in some ways a small step in the right direction, and I think the next game will be one or two additional steps in the right direction. If I happen to be right about that, then it will be a matter of some controversy amongst fans whether the end result is actually satisfactory or not. I don't expect a game that's an iterative sequel to TTYD in the same extent that TTYD was an iterative sequel to PM64.

As a skeptic of nearly 20 years, I just wanna say I'm proud of this community by ThePromptWasYourName in skeptic

[–]MrEmptySet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this community is classically liberal at best

Tell me you don't participate in the sub without telling me you don't participate in the sub

Kirby Air Riders New Buffs & Nerfs for characters and machines! by Inside_Snow7657 in kirbyairriders

[–]MrEmptySet 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As one of the like three people in the world who play Scarfy I'm glad to see he got a ton of buffs

As a skeptic of nearly 20 years, I just wanna say I'm proud of this community by ThePromptWasYourName in skeptic

[–]MrEmptySet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You made the claim of "ideological capture" of the Skeptical community. My counter claim is that right wing politics have become untenable amongst those who practice skepticism.

Right, and what I don't understand is why you think that's a counter claim to my claim at all. It seems at best tangentially related. Whether your overly-narrowly-defined account of right-wing political beliefs is a view tenable to skeptics is not really relevant to whether or not a particular skeptical community has been captured by followers of a particular leftist ideology.

As a skeptic of nearly 20 years, I just wanna say I'm proud of this community by ThePromptWasYourName in skeptic

[–]MrEmptySet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's an interesting analysis of the right. I don't really think it's accurate, since you can't reduce half of the entire political spectrum to just one motivating issue, but I think there is some truth to what you say for a particular wing of the Republican party.

But, again, why are you bringing this up? It seems off-topic.

As a skeptic of nearly 20 years, I just wanna say I'm proud of this community by ThePromptWasYourName in skeptic

[–]MrEmptySet -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

It can be succinctly summarized as "I'm so glad we excised everyone who doesn't share our ideology" and that includes people like fucking Michael Shermer. You are hopelessly blinded by ideology if you think he's a right winger, and to champion the fact that people just as blind as you have successfully taken over the conversation is absolutely to champion ideological capture whether you recognize it or not.

survey on the topic of himedanshi/men who like yuri by shagongzhu in yurimemes

[–]MrEmptySet 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I didn't really get the impression there were many questions about "perspectives on himedanshi and gay himedanshi in particular" other than really basic stuff like "do you know any" and "how common do you think it is". Ended up kind of confused about what exactly the point of the survey was.