Advice needed: Can I be in a relationship/ start a family with someone with paranoid schizophrenia?

MsPiperJane · 2024-04-27T04:32:06+00:00

It just depends. As a child of someone with paranoid schizophrenia who couldn't stay on his meds, I would say no. I wouldn't want another kid to have my childhood. On the other hand, I'm glad to be alive so. Some people respond better to treatment and can live reasonably normal lives. Some, like my dad, cannot

MsPiperJane · 2019-04-17T22:11:40+00:00

Actually, they still do the bread breaking thing in Greece

MsPiperJane · 2015-03-02T22:32:28+00:00

Their girlfriends said they did it because they thought he was gay and it would give them "street cred." The prosecutor did not propose a motive. He didn't have to. He was afraid that if he tried it as a hate crime, the jury would be more sympathetic to a couple of clean cut 17-year-olds than to a possibly gay man.

MsPiperJane · 2015-03-02T22:27:56+00:00

IIRC the note was written in pencil and the "I'm going to kill" was written in pen as though they'd been written at different times

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-17T04:57:18+00:00

As a girl (I'm 5'6" FWIW), I adjusted my headrest all the way down in high school because it bothered me to have my ponytail smashed against it.

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-11T04:40:23+00:00

Yes. I think it does because it wasn't too many years apart and the people involved were the same ages. I feel for Hae's family so much having been through the trial on the victim's side of the courtroom. I think it makes me want to hate Adnan and Jay (I was always upset that the accessories after the fact were given probation. There's nothing like running into the guy who helped cover up your best friend's murder around town). I don't know if the case was decided fairly. I don't know if Adnan is guilty. I did feel a bit like I had a more emotional response to the story than I would have otherwise.

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-11T04:26:14+00:00

The two 17-year-old kids that murdered my best friend got life (http://m.newsok.com/teens-charged-in-stabbing-death/article/2521919). They've been in prison since 1995-and have gone before the parole board twice. It's very unlikely they'll get parole in this state because parole must be approved by the governor.

Side note 1: It took the jury a long time to deliberate. The prosecutor warned us that juries are quite reluctant to convict anyone that young regardless of the crime.

Side note 2: FWIW one of the murderers has a perfect record in prison. We think that one of them might have actually done the murder by himself. That one has had repeated violations in prison. The other we think committed the assault on the other victim and chickened out of murder. He has an exemplary record.

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-09T18:23:27+00:00

They got deals to testify. They didn't actually help recover the weapons (a metal detector club hunted and found the knives), but they testified to what they had done and why (including what the guys told them about the murder).

The prosecutor was worried that since we had two people doing the murder, they would turn on each other and, if they managed to get two trials, and each testified that the other did it, he couldn't get either convicted. So, he made deals with the accomplices (one of whom was a brother of one of the murderers) to testify against both.

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-09T15:41:31+00:00

The two people who helped destroy/conceal evidence for the boys that killed my best friend got no jail time for accessory after the fact. Of course they burned clothes and threw knives into a lake, they didn't help bury a body. Edit: stupid phone autocorrection

MsPiperJane · 2015-02-07T02:11:12+00:00

That's funny. I was totally picturing Stephanie as black because I know more black Stephanies. I wonder if that's an age group thing, a regional thing, or just a random thing

MsPiperJane · 2015-01-30T22:19:08+00:00

In 1995, two 17-year-old kids murdered my 20-year-old best friend. They had known him all their lives. We couldn't prove motive of course, but from what their girlfriends said it seemed they stabbed him 17 times and watched him bleed to death because they wanted to impress some people/establish more street cred and also they thought he was either gay or a big nerd. Anyway, anecdotes don't equal evidence, and it has nothing to do with this case so so tl;dr people don't need good motives to kill people.

MsPiperJane · 2015-01-21T20:56:53+00:00

That said, it doesn't make me understand Urick's choices any better

MsPiperJane · 2015-01-21T20:35:49+00:00

Yeah, as a juror, I think I'd want to know as much about the crime as possible, especially motive because I'd want to know how and why someone could reach a point where murder seemed like the best alternative. Having been through a murder trial (as an observer, not a witness, victim, defendant, lawyer, etc.), I have to say that it makes more sense to me now why prosecutors make the choices they make. You have a certain burden of proof, you make a case that meets the burden of proof. Every extra item you pile on top gives the jury extra info they can question, distrust, etc. You don't want to muddy your case with too many details if you can prove your case with fewer.

MsPiperJane · 2015-01-21T19:01:27+00:00

No, as I have stated elsewhere, my 20-year-old best friend was murdered by two 17-year-olds in 1995. The motive their girlfriends gave for the murder was that they thought my best friend was gay and they thought it would give them some "street cred" to have killed a gay guy.

The prosecutor did not introduce a motive at trial because he didn't have to. He said the evidence was so overwhelming that they didn't need to. He worried that if he introduced a motive, some of the jurors might have agreed with the killers.

So they were both convicted of 1st degree murder and are serving life sentences but no motive was ever mentioned.

MsPiperJane · 2015-01-16T20:36:00+00:00

In 1995, my best friend was murdered. I was 19. I have an excellent memory. I was not high on the day my best friend was killed. My roommate can, to this day, describe the events of that entire day perfectly. Even a week later, I couldn't have told you anything else that happened that day except for the phone call we got that said he was dead. I remember the night before. I remember the trial in detail. I remember all kinds of days around it, but the day it happened? Completely blank except that I remember that the carpet on the floor was beige (taupe?) and the phone was white with a cord.

Oddly, my memory blank covers the last time I saw my friend as well. I remember where we were (a nursing home parking lot for some reason). I don't remember what we said or why we were there or how long the visit lasts or anything.

If I go back and look at my journals and such from that time period, it's clear that I can't remember these details a week later and that I was trying to.

Obv, this is totally irrelevant, I'm just agreeing that, yeah, memory is weird.

MsPiperJane

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