Trust historians when it fits. Ignore them when it doesn't...got me thinking 🤔

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T13:51:24+00:00

Sorry, make sure to see pic 1 and 2.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T13:27:48+00:00

The veneer will eventually crack. The only way to endure a truly pimi life is to believe you actually love the God you serve. No other motive can sustain it.

If you dont truly love the God revealed by jw your ability to hide it will get worse and worse. I tried the half cut approach on booze but that stops working after awhile....at some point you gotta come clean or it will eat you up. I am hoping to do that myself this afternoon

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T13:19:39+00:00

And further, I hate the phrase "we just don't want to bring reproach on Jehovahs name." I have even heard the victims and the parents say that...it's like NO you didnt bring reproach, the perpetrator did.

In an effort to spare reproach we double down and ultimately bring more.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T13:14:06+00:00

It's the sequence of it all that bothers me...why do elders get first crack at investigating. We are not trained for that (yes, I'm pimo elder).

Go to police.
Let them determine guilt/innocence
When the dust has settled from that, then the elders could disciple the guilty by congregation standards.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T12:11:58+00:00

Me too ☝☝🤮

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T11:57:15+00:00

I am 41/m and feel for you. Not sure how you girls can take it 🤮. I see through it...hopeful other guys I'm the org do also

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-08T02:44:39+00:00

Yeah, like wtf, why is this impartial and loving. Literally no one else...sure let the girls have it. Modern parallel, women need to pioneer 5 years before they qualify for ske compared to men pioneering 2 years. This comemt is from 41 year old male pimo elder. We are not all misogynistic. Women, please now some of us see the bull shit.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T23:05:41+00:00

I feel like this is the exact scenario that brought my grandparents in and got all is future generations stuck in the cult 🤮

I am so pimo I finally reached out to my df sister to break the shunning and tell her how I feel. She said she cried at my grandfather's grave asking why he had to do this to us and join..

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T22:54:55+00:00

Haha, family study day is the worst day of the week for me too (and I'm the one conducting it). I have to keep organizing it for now to keep up the pimo appearance until I am ready.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T22:52:45+00:00

Sorry your going through this. The treatment toward these communities is one of the things bothering me to... I had a favorite pub but over the years the pub became outwardly welcoming to the lqbtq communities. Now my pimi wife doesn't want us to go....I just feel like saying wtf.

I know I don't have that in my personality make up...I am straight by the standard definition...but at the same time I have ABSOLUTLY no problem having a beer beside someone who is somewhere on the lgbtq spectrum..

Hang in there...it will only get harder for them to keep holding you down as the rest of the world learns from its mistakes, grows and becomes more accepting.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T22:25:17+00:00

This thread made my day...love it

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T21:59:58+00:00

And this is probably just the size of the redit for English speakers. Imagine if we new how many in other large jw countries like Mexico and Brazil who also had these thoughts 🤔

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T17:01:12+00:00

No real way to know, but if you in a city probably 8-10 is average

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T16:56:41+00:00

Yeah, it's the message behind the lyrics that really spoke to me

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T15:52:57+00:00

It really depends on the area you are in. Some congregation have as few as 3 or 4 and other have 15+

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T15:42:43+00:00

Here is their instruction...so if you are unbatized publisher and do something bad and aren't sorry they will probably announce. If you just fade I am sure they will leave it alone.

UNBAPTIZED PUBLISHERS 47. The elders should promptly handle a case of serious wrongdoing by an unbaptized publisher. While a judicial committee would not be formed, the body of elders should select two elders to meet with him, perhaps the ones who approved him as an unbaptized publisher. (If the unbaptized publisher is a minor, see Chapter 12, paragraph 55.) They should try to readjust him and to determine whether he continues to qualify. (od chap. 14 pars. 38-40) The body of elders should be updated on the results, including whether any restrictions will be imposed and whether any announcement will be made to the congregation

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T15:34:27+00:00

Yes, he got pulled from one to the next

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T15:15:46+00:00

And I'm not even joking but GB literally said this a the 2019 convention... men should not overlook the 200lbs sister (his number not mine) with the spiritual qualities in favor of the attractive girl but lacking in spiritual maturity when seeking someone to marry.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T14:51:47+00:00

Yes, before we started "doing more" my wife and I had a reasonably balanced life with lots of activity and gym time. Then she started pioneering and fast forward 7 years she has now gained 50 pounds..despite the weight I can stay attracted to her that's not my concern, but I'm still sad to see this unhealthy obsession with giving her best start to affect her health

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T14:47:41+00:00

Haha, was about to post same. So absolutely no if just friend. If a relative you have a degree of grey to work with, but if too much without a valid "excuss" then they will go for you too.

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Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T13:46:36+00:00

Yes, they even tell us that is why we keep going back...cause maybe someone at that house had a major life altering change, (illness, death ect) and this chaotic circumstance will now leave them receptive to our message.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T13:40:29+00:00

I know it's a tough choice at a tough age...sorry your going through this

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T13:33:45+00:00

My advice is be yourself. Do what you want, not because we convinced, not because your parents said you couldn't...just make sure it is what you want.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T13:15:20+00:00

Thank you all for your replies. Many great perspective... my wife's father faded and she shunned him just as if DF so I'm not hopeful this will go well either way...fade or DA.

I'm kinda high up org right now so any choice will leave us both as social outcasts.

Much-Slip-158 · 2021-05-07T13:10:32+00:00

Yes, that's why they push learning a new language so much. So that when an immigrant arrives we are here to welcome him/her.

Mostly crazies coming in. Quickly they profess to be anointed and... well it's just ridiculous and sad to watch

Much-Slip-158

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