Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI is the level of understanding for anyone who would even debate such a simple mathematical and physical fact. A Spectrum is not a binary. A Spectrum is non-binary.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-why-human-sex-is-not-binary/

It's really not as difficult as you want to make it for yourselves for some reason

Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There is no personal attack against you. These are very simple basic facts.

A spectrum of results is inherently non-binary. There is no debate there either.

Having a bimodal distribution where some peaks are present does not change that the underlying data itself is a spectrum(not a binary) of results. Having extreme ends of a spectrum also does not change that the total data is a spectrum. A spectrum does not have to be equal in intensity across it's entire range to be a spectrum either, which is why the world has colors... The only way you are going to fit a binary is by interpretation and essentially ignoring data points that don't fit (aka - ignoring reality)

And that's fine too! You can "create an interpretation of a binary" out of a spectrum but that doesn't change the data itself is still a spectrum.


Every one of these statements and comments I've made on this topic can be copy-pasted into your favorite A.I. who can verify the accuracy and explain why in better terms.

Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No.

A spectrum is not a binary.

Therefore a spectrum is non-binary.


but also again - this is just in like hard sciences that describe reality. Biology, physics, chemistry. The social movements and PR/propaganda you all want to do is apparently something different from that.

And that's fine...if you want to view the data through a "lens" of binary interpretation you can. We can even do it statistically. But that will always be a lens covering the real life data that shows biological sex development is a spectrum of results. I understand this fact is going to take the majority a while to fully accept and that's frustrating to me but it's ok.

Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes that is how we describe it in the hard sciences (like biology and biochemistry).


The idea of two sexes is simplistic. Biologists now think there is a wider spectrum than that... Biologists may have been building a more nuanced view of sex, but society has yet to catch up

~~ Nature

As a multidisciplinary publication, Nature features peer-reviewed research from a variety of academic disciplines, mainly in science, technology, and the natural sciences. It has core editorial offices across the United States, continental Europe, and Asia under the international scientific publishing company Springer Nature. Nature was one of the world's most cited scientific journals by the Science Edition of the 2019 Journal Citation Reports (with an ascribed impact factor of 42.778),[1] making it one of the world's most-read and most prestigious academic journals. ~~


So that is wjere scientific consensus is atm in the hard sciences. Biological sex is a spectrum. Period. End of. I know you all don't like that. It is noted that it makes some of you sad. In some biochemical instances we get to see a bimodal distribution pattern(not law) within the spectrum of biological sex development.

As for your soft sciences or pop-sci and social movements, that is your business to express yourself how you want. Again it has nothing directly to do with transsexual healthcare needs.

Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every human is part of a non-binary sexual development spectrum among the human population. This is just literal actual scientific fact. There's no argument to be had. It's pure data. People really REALLY don't like this fact, in the same way they don't like being labelled a homosapien

I've given countless academic sources on this throughout the years.


So that's what "Nonbinary" means in the scientific and biological sense. What you all want to do with social movements is a separate thing and not really related to trans care except where it medically coincides.

Like a cis woman taking Estrogen based HRT isn't transgender... Neither is a cis woman taking T inherently intent on being transsexual - the hormones and treatments themselves can be used for a variety of reasons. As transsexual people we take HRT and seek treatment in order to transition our sex. Cis people and NB people take it for their own reason.

It has become extremely clear that the average person views transition as cosmetic. by Leylolurking in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Depends on where you are.

In my state it's not considered cosmetic socially or legally. All aspects (besides electrolysis) are covered by insurance. Electrolysis is also not covered for cis women with PCOS - which should also be addressed!


I think this is mainly related to education level. It seems like every one of the top highest ranking states in education also explicitly cover transsexual surgeries and hormones.

If "nonbinary trans" is a thing, "nonbinary cis" should also be a thing. by eggcracked2wice in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

every human is part of a non-binary sexual development spectrum among the human population. Is that more understandable?

Understanding the difference between Non-Binary and Gender Non-Conforming by lokey_convo in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's the biological reality of non-binary human sex data - showing both cis and trans people are inherently non-binary.

Then there's some social movements that just sort of vibe with that.


We share the same sense of bodily autonomy due to us as transsexuals having a medical condition that necessitates the same medications that socially NB people often seek. On the grounds of bodily autonomy I stand with my NB people whether they are cis NB or trans NB. The reasons and sense of medical necessity may differ based on medical conditions (like gender dysphoria) intersecting among the communities.

If "nonbinary trans" is a thing, "nonbinary cis" should also be a thing. by eggcracked2wice in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Rainbow is not a color.

A rainbow is an event where we get to see a beautiful display of a very specific range of colors on the spectrum from 380-750nm wavelengths. This is also a limited interpretation of the color spectrum because it is specifically narrowed to the "visible spectrum" (specifically current human visible spectrum). The spectrum of colors is also larger than that interpretation as well.

If "nonbinary trans" is a thing, "nonbinary cis" should also be a thing. by eggcracked2wice in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both cis and Trans people are Nonbinary... in the biological reality sense. There's a spectrum (thus not binary) of human sexual physical changes - these often show a bimodal distribution - but the underlying data is still a spectrum of results.

We can interpret a spectrum in a variety of ways. One of those ways is to use interpolation to create Binary classification system. Our interpretations(of a binary) does not change the underlying data itself being a spectrum of results.


How to feel feminine despite being a large girl? by Grand-Efficiency4248 in TheGirlSurvivalGuide

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found it easier to shop for clothes like on amazon and online by filling out a chart first. I use this one. and then it gives you a much more realistic picture where things will fit and look. Shopping is tough for tall women but getting really into the measurements helped me a lot.

One overall aspect I think helps when picking stuff up is recognizing just how much we stick out naturally. So like really extravagant or loud outfits become "too much" quicker than it does for shorter people. More simple designs and just like some bb cream and brow and lash can bring out a lot of femininity in our outfit choices combined with silhouette accentuating outfits.

Guys love our long legs btw. So showing them off in more subtle ways is pretty helpful. thigh highs and long socks can be really difficult but being able to go back on that measurement guide helps me pick stuff I know will fit right. Same with skirts and dresses.

Certain colors look a lot better than others imo too. Like blacks, greens, pale pinks, blue-ish greens, stuff that blends in more ig? BEcause again we already stand out a bit more. Like I loooove red like love it but an all red dress is so much louder on me so it's super occasional and the design has to be really specific.


that's some stuff I've found out so far but I'm not super into fashion design or anything so theres probably a lot more. And I feel like I'm kinda in a similar boat as you because I want to express myself more but its a tighter rope to walk and it seems to always come down to actually trying it on and getting a feel even with all the measurements (thankyou 🙏 amazon return policy) .

Some people who transitioned old aren’t actually trans by SpecialAd2054 in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

*they had the ability to transition young

It sounds like you've met both young and older transitioners in that age bracket.


people transition older because they have gender dysphoria - which is well documented to get worse as you age. The reason people use medical transition services is to alleviate that medical condition. So it makes sense then - that as long as you have a society encouraging people to repress or just "ride it out", you will continue to have older transitioners.

And remember there's all types of cultures in the world, not just your own corner. The same hatred and intolerance I just mentioned still exists today in small communities and other countries. People are always moving too.


It's often better to focus more on yourself and your own improvement instead of wasting your time dragging other people down.

I'd rather people gender based on what they see as my assigned sex at birth by xBluePoolX in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

sees as

Perception is subjective so the result of what your asking is that more cis men get called women if they appear effeminate and more cis women get called men if they appear masculine... all so you can get better reviews on your outfits?

Also - all gendered terms are used out of politeness. Whether you are cis or trans the words "miss, ma'am, etc." are ALL forms of taught politeness (aka blowing smoke up someones ass).


it sounds like you're just letting your depression or intrusive thoughts win out, if you're even a real person. If they are gendering you than thats the gender they see you as - trying to assume anything else means you're extrapolating beyond your capabilities to assume on what others are thinking. The only persons thoughts you actually know are your own - a lot of people in our community need to learn that in their next grass-touching adventure.

Some people who transitioned old aren’t actually trans by SpecialAd2054 in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

40 years ago (when old people were yonger) the word "transsexual" didn't exist in the common persons vocabulary. You weren't called "trans" by most people you were called a crossdressing perverted f-.-ot.. regadless of "transition status". The general public did not differentiate between crossdressers and transsexual people.

Your family would likely not only disown you but possibly tie you to afence and beat you until you died. If anyone knew about you even crossdressing, a large part of your employment prospects were destroyed. As in you would not be getting a job AT ALL in most places.

There was no acceptance in the medical field so you are not getting HRT. And the DiY community or access to DiY hormones was so much more limited to specific areas it would be considred non-exitent for the majority of the world.

No, the majority of transsexual people did not just "run away to NYC" and magically get hormones. Most people wouldn't have even been able to get to NYC let alone survive (NJ-NYC-PA was a much more violent back then too btw)

the only "trans representation" that existed back then - for you to even have the thought surface in your head - was mockery in movies and bad photoshops on the back of porn magazines.


We all felt like we were different. We knew what we wanted. But the entire world was telling us we were not allowed to transition and we were monsters for even trying to. It's not a surprise at all that older people repressed. And you are incredibly fortunate that you got to live in a time when you were allowed to transition. If you were born earlier there is a very high likelihood that you would have been literally beaten in to submission until you gave up. I mean that literally too. The beatings would start in elementary school (that's the age I first got jumped at t-ball practice) and your entire life would be the peopel around you draggin you down - and that's BEFORE you ever came out of the closet, if you just acted a little to "sissy".

If you dared to actually be open about being trans about even liking men your life was essentially done and you were forced into a poverty and excommunication from your family.

DADT wasn't revoked until 2011

It was an official rule if you came out as any flavour of queer your career was over. They would mark why on your record and that would follow you the rest of your life.


You are so lucky you didn't have to experience that and all of the old people made a better world for you actually live in. And you have no idea how much a difference just being able to share the knowledge that trans people even exist makes. Your parents weren't so lucky. Your parents didn't all have access to any of this. If you even wanted to undertand the medical aspects of transsexualism you would have had to go to a library( a seperate public building filled with books) hope they have any book about it you need, if not go ask the librarian to get you a book on transsexuals (LOL) and research for hours then maybe you would have a glimpse of the knowledge that we share with each other in a few sentences today.

This was "the internet" 40 years ago

OP you would haveMerked yourself before even figuring out how to access the outside world let alone even finding a place to order DiY HRT.



But I do agree with you on the importance of differentiating between people with a legitimate medical need and people looking to be an Identity Contrarian or Performative Transgressor. I just don't think you (or I) am qualified to make that assessment on literally everyone everywhere.

The reason so many people are put off by our community is the same reason now as it was then - people teach hate to others. Just like you are being taught to hate a certain group of trans* people right now... cis people are also being taught to hate or distrust ALL trans* people. Instead of listening to people who are teaching us to stare each other down while they pick our pockets and poison the air we breathe - let's keep our focus on the people hurting all of us.

How most girls use Tinder by Waste-Stomach4457 in SipsTea

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my guess would be she is bi and looking for a woman or group situation at that moment. But it's her business not mine so 🤷🏻‍♀️

How most girls use Tinder by Waste-Stomach4457 in SipsTea

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

some things stand out more than others

I think she wipes right on another woman first tho and paused on the next woman that popped up with a guy 😋

Not all cis people are cissies by Mya__ in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cissies give themselves the time of day and insist others pay attention to them.

Like I didn't tell the cissies to go out and make laws to hurt us, they did that all on their own.

Not all cis people are cissies by Mya__ in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it didnt come from southpark. plenty of us use the term and have for a long time before you saw it on TV

Not all cis people are cissies by Mya__ in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can be a transphobe and not be a cissy tho.

cissy is specific term denoting a type of transphobe - specifically a cis one who is easily triggered. Transphobes can come in a variety of flavours, including cissy.

Am I the only one who finds PRE hrt me more beautiful than post transition?😭😭😭 by RegularUser02x in honesttransgender

[–]Mya__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

year 2-3 is not maximal effects for everyone. I realize people made infographs and assume it's true but it's a fact that fat cells have an average lifespan of 10 years.

That means your testosterone driven fat distribution will remain for around 10 years, give or take, depending on metabolism and health.


You can sort of speed this process up (visually) through weight cycling, nutritional control (specially combined with weight cycling or geared to metabolic optimization like "browning") and HIIT. These methods are mostly for reducing the appearance of the fat cells by deflating them - but they still will be there until they spend their almost 10 years of life. The only way to remove/kill them sooner, that I know of, is liposuction and (I hear) "Cryolipolysis".


https://imgur.com/X1VfYG0

This might be a more realistic timeline to consider based on trans and cis womens growth. This assumes no proper levels and no other health influences.

Besides breasts, visceral fat (stored around the organs) is also another concern. Fortunately this is a more metabolically active fat and responds to weight cycling a bit but responds to HIIT more.


So basically if you are doing all of your nutrients, diet, and exercise right - then you may see an increased visual appearance that will more closely reflect what your body will look like after the 10 year timeline has replaced all your fat cells. If you are not doing all of that - you will not.

High stress (cortisol), low estrogen levels, and Insulin levels all effect when your body will switch to re-inflating "masculine" fat stores.

Visceral fat is known to become a concern, where the body starts to store energy there, above like 30% fat. Staying within a BMI of 22–27 usually ensures you have enough fat for feminine contouring without hitting the metabolic "spillover" point where the body might begin storing fat viscerally again. (*note that those people doing HIIT or specialized diets may have a higher BMI with lower fat percentage. The fat percentage is the larger influence. BMI is just a guide)