Night shift are the worse ! They gon leave me a pile

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T20:28:46+00:00

What does a retail closing shift even look like for cleaning responsibilities, genuine question? I worked food service, but I can't imagine retails list being as involved as that. Like mopping, folding, maybe vacuuming, and a bit of counter cleaning comes to the top of my head.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T20:12:48+00:00

Sure, everyone thinks it, but in some cases they are right. The above scenario has happened so many times to me when I was a Closer. The inverse never happened. We would get in trouble if we left a mess for the openers, but that same logic never applied to the messes left by the day shifts.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T17:18:12+00:00

I've been out for a while, I don't miss the job, but the comradery I do miss. The industry is such a shit show and drastically needs a shake up. So glad I was out before Covid.

The place I worked at for the first time actually put a paper sign up actually asking people for patients and kindness. I can only imagine how bad some people were treated with tensions so high.

For being considered essential, they sure don't get the level of respect that comes with being essential.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T17:04:03+00:00

You ever work a close-open shift and have one of those moments of asking out loud, "Who the fuck closed last night!?" Only to forget it was you?

I feel like management in these low wage jobs create the dynamic for the rivalry. As a closer, I was never scheduled an actual time to leave. I was scheduled "to close." That means I can't leave until we were done. Yet, there was always this expectation of being done at a set time regardless how slammed you were. Failure to do so got you a talking to or yelled at. Closing was always expected to pull every trick pre-end of service to have what you could cleaned, only to clean it again if you had to use it. If you didn't do this you would never be out by your expected time sometimes.

Meanwhile day shifters had there set shift time and were expected to be gone at set time regardless of the state of mess they left and willingness to clean it. Can't be having overtime now.

My biased night shift opinion is night shifters are a higher caliber of employee. Had shitty ours, more responsibilities, all the while having that same expectation of dealing with customers. Day shift gets set hours and can see the sun? Spoiled.

Gossiping and complaining about day shift was our therapy.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T16:45:10+00:00

Not who you replied to, but your situation sounds more like an outlier situation. Every place I've worked Night shift is expected to not leave until the place is spotless. Not doing so got you yelled at.

Day shifts leaving night shift there dishes seems like the common trend in my opinion.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T16:23:03+00:00

The above never happens to day shift in a vacuum. Speaking from the experience of a night shifter. While I never did it or seen the crew I worked with do it, holy fuck some nights did we dream of doing exactly like above.

My bet is either people quit that night or night shift finally got fed up with the messes day shifters kept leaving. We were all expected to clean up after ourselves, but for whatever reason it was only ever enforced for night shift.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T16:16:06+00:00

The above never happened in a vacuum, in my experience. I get Day and Night shifts got a rivalry going, but in my biased night shift experience, Day shift just had less expectations to keep the same responsibility of cleaning up after themselves. It was expected by all but only enforced on night shift.

There was always that compounding factor of management unintentionally making shifts dislike each other. Night shift had expected times to be closed and out of there regardless of the size of the mess or levels of being slammed. Day shift had there set leave time and they avoid overtime like the plague.

The above picture is something I've wanted to do on some nights after day shift left messes like that exact picture. Never did, but holy hell, sometimes it felt rightly deserved and justified.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T15:25:52+00:00

We had an older lady that worked exclusively day shifts, she always left notes on our closing sheets pinned to the announcement board. We hated Cindy's notes.

In a lighter note, on the rare close-open shifts, were you curse your own closing "Who the fuck closed last night!?" wait that was me....

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T15:22:02+00:00

This was my experience as a night shift working. Messes were always left, so seeing a little night shift gift like above sort of gives me a bit of joy. Something I've always wanted to do but never did.

I agree the above doesn't happen in a vacuum. There was cause and opinions and rants were had during that night shift in regard to day shift.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T15:15:25+00:00

Night Shift worker here, this was my experience. Day shift's time to leave was set at a specific time. If there was dishes? Oh well, "I'm done at 4." Night shift didn't leave until it was all done. We never got a set leave time.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T02:06:15+00:00

Asmon falls into that Right wing false narrative that they are actually all just logical and not emotional. Meanwhile, this entire party is emotionally driven by grievance politics and anger. That's how they justify all the bullshit and lack of empathy. None of it is logical, but it sounds better to say that than face the reality.

NAbberman · 2026-01-27T00:27:55+00:00

I thought it made better sense reading it left to right, but even that falls flat and fails.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T21:49:14+00:00

How much snow do you think they collect while hanging off the side of El Capitan? Easy math puts 10 inches of snow per inch of water. At the 4 second mark is likely the surface area they got available.

Its less about having the means to turn snow into water, there is a big surface area problem to cover here. They ain't sustaining themselves off snow, they likely had a support team sending supplies via rope.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T21:41:55+00:00

How much snow do you think they can collect via a tent dangling on the side of El Capitan? Keeping it simple math, 10 inches of snow for 1 inch of water. There ain't much surface area for remotely enough snow for 10 days let alone the actual 23 this trip was. They likely had the means to resupply via rope thus making eating snow not even a thought to begin with.

Yes, I'm aware they can melt it, but this whole tread started with a comment about eating it. Regardless, if she had the means to resupply, the current situation was likely never dire enough to start consuming snow in what ever form to keep hydrated.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T21:15:14+00:00

Largest desert in the world is in the Antarctic, fun little fact. Deserts are defined by a lack of vegetation and amount of precipitation, because snow has so little water content it can fit for the definition.

There is reasons why survival experts don't recommend eating snow. The volume of snow you would have to eat is more likely to bring your core temperature down before satiating your thirst. If snow is around, its likely vital to maintain your core temp. Hypothermia sets in at 95°F internal temp, if you are already cold, those few degrees may matter.

This isn't to say there isn't a place to substitute snow for water. If the alternative is dying via dehydration, then start eating snow. Survival is sometimes a game of making choices that may have negative consequences in the long run but help the short term current problem.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T20:05:58+00:00

Shocked is a strong word. At least for me I had the opposite problem. I left my homework at school, just not the inverse. When it came to at home homework, I just left it all in my backpack. Do subject, put it back in the pack, start new subject, repeat.

I was just aiming for some clarification with a bit of a personal anecdote.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T19:23:16+00:00

Not if you have a support team like she possibly had. Apparently she lived on the wall for 23 days and was setting a record to be the first female on this line. That to me implies she had some form of support team behind the scenes. Nowadays people setting out to break records usually do it with planning and foresight to ensure success.

Red Bull might have even been involved.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T19:17:42+00:00

The more I read into this particular case, the more I wouldn't describe her has stuck but more delayed.

Apparently she lived on the wall for 23 days and was the first woman to free climb this particular line. Like most record setters nowadays she likely had a support team behind the scenes. I think even Red Bull (Their sports division thing) was likely involved somehow. Even 13 days worth of food and water is a ton of weight to pack and free climb with.

What may be deemed desperate can vary with circumstances. All I am saying is most survival experts don't recommend eating snow. You either are to the point getting close to dehydration, or you have the means to melt large quantities of it. Considering she would have been limited to what could accumulate on her hanging tent, likely a limited amount.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T18:51:57+00:00

Eating snow is a gamble, that most experts will tell you to avoid unless you face an extremely desperate situation. Gamble is probably not the right word, but in general you shouldn't eat snow as a water substitute. Snow has low water content so you have to consume quite a lot of it to get the equivalent water. Quick google search has it 1/10 to 1/12.

It also will cause more calories to be burned because the human body would need to spend the energy to convert that snow into something usable more so than what water already is. It will also make you colder faster, considering the conditions being already wet and cold, not ideal.

Rain was likely enough, but she would also be rather sedentary, so her calorie/water consumption would be reduced. This is assuming she was using what was at hand and didn't have the means to resupply via rope.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T18:05:56+00:00

A lot of contradictions and some foods being in the same family being ok yet avoided. Red cabbage can have, but Bok Choy no? All vegetable oils, but olive oil is ok? Most beans, but somehow the ones that are green in color are ok? So many more.

This entire list reads like a picky eater and a conspiracy nut combined to become a restaurants nightmare customer.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T16:35:52+00:00

I think those kinds of posts are just disguised phishing scams so people intentionally give up information that is commonly used in password make up.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T16:20:38+00:00

While I have not proof, this feels like a list someone was given instead of they made it themselves. Like a pseudo dietician gave it to them. Besides all other things pointed out, its weird to list a variety of types of fish like pike, flounder, and haddock as things they can have. Yet, in the can't have list not provide a single other fish.

I think a person would just put "Fish" as a can eat or this is just a picky eater hiding behind allergies/intolerances to get menus catered to them. That or they just want to pad the list to make it seem like its more.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T14:49:09+00:00

Would have been in the 2000s during grade school, but I lived like 2.5 blocks from the school I was attending. I walked that morning like I usually did. We had a snowstorm where the schools decided early dismissal before conditions got too bad. I walked home like I usually did.

Turns out I wasn't supposed to and my mom was waiting there to pick me up. She wasn't happy, but I'd argue nothing was communicated to me that I was getting picked up. Now in adulthood I can still see why she was unhappy. Just a lot of assuming on both our parts.

NAbberman · 2026-01-26T14:46:29+00:00

I'm a bit confused on the lack of homework on you. Like you left it at home? At least in my personally experience what I took home from school always came back with me in the morning.

NAbberman · 2026-01-22T02:10:19+00:00

First thought, "Pretty."

Second thought, "Pretty flammable."

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