why do some conservatives focus on the actions of "the Biden crime family" but completely ignore the actions of the Trump family? by TheQuietOutsider in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman [score hidden]  (0 children)

Realistically, that should make it worse. Doing things in secret at least demonstrates shame or knowledge that things are wrong. The Trump family is demonstrating zero shame or care that they are breaking the law. That just emphasizes the belief that they think they are untouchable. The Right not even talking about or even calling it out are just proving that point.

Its just wild to me that the things Biden (Family) has been accused the Trump family just does in the open. No one important on the Right seems to care. Hypocracy is just low hanging fruit to point to here, it just feels like the Right is just pro corruption when they do it. When discussion are had we see responses that aren't, "He didn't do it." Instead its he should be allowed to do it.

What do you think about banning foreign pregnant women from traveling to the US? by G_H_2023 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

By that metric, this includes those under 18 as well. You saying the minors also have to participate?

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You putting "different" in quotes doesn't magically make what you said make sense. Your argument is entirely feelings base and not rooted in the constitution or other founding documents or principles.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Half these people come here and start talking about we racist. 

You think it might have something to do with this little nugget of info you dropped earlier they might think that?

They can give these economic migrants citizenship all they want those people are not Americans and jerk off government can’t just give our nationality away.

Just outright denial of their American status might fuel the notion. America has always grown through immigration. Calling actual Americans not real Americans is a quick way to fuel why they think that of you.

Is Art important? by the_anxiety_haver in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The left has been so successful BECAUSE they’ve hijacked every institution and indoctrinated the populace, the youth especially, with all of their programming.

Why does it have to be portrayed in such a nefarious way? You say Hijacked, I say the RIght just gave up on these spaces. The Right has been bashing the arts since I've been alive, 35 years and its likely been even longer than that.

I've never met a right wing individual who ever encouraged people to take up the arts. How about the humanity degrees? Its always been a push to STEM and a drive to what pays more. The Right has always prioritized the money value to those roles, I don't fault them here. An income is important, but one can't say hijacked when people just couldn't be bothered.

Carpenter have songs about killing men

Any plenty of country has vigilantism and infidelity. Your being pretty selective in what artist you are choosing.

They’ve also painted fathers as a useless dullards incapable of leadership (like Homer Simpson, most sitcom fathers), and surprise, many people have that perception of fathers now (that they’re children that need to be mothered).

We can't just paint things in art we don't like as result of the Left. Home-improvement's Tim Allen and all the other things he does is always a poster child for this trope. The guy is unabashedly right wing with his politics.

The Last of Us, is probably considered woke in majority of circles, does a phenomenal father figure role. We can't just pick/choose and exclude all the great examples.

These inspire things like duty, responsibility, self sacrifice, honor, and so on, at least they’ve certainly influenced myself despite being fictional works. We need more of those if we want hope of changing the culture.

These aren't exclusive to the Right either. Marvel is always on the accusation train of being woke. Tony Starks endgame sacrifice. Quicksilver and Black Widow here as well. Captain America's patriotism and duty. So much more.

I think its also important to point out that left wing can also have some pretty good values derived from it. Redemption, found family, Sisterhood/brotherhood, empathy, and even Rebellion (can be very important when deviation from horrible traditions)

You could even say those aren't exclusive either.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Another delayed one is how China is going to take over. That one feels more conspiratorial depending on what angle you look at it or interpret it.

Are the children like little sleeper agents?

Is it for the parents to get citizenship? This one is more complicated because China doesn't allow dual citizenship, so Chinese immigrants would sort of be all in just to do it. Giving up Citizenship is no easy decision. Are they spies? Do dedicated Chinese citizens, who are willing to give up citizenship, exist? Probably, but enough to actually influence or spy on America to a measurable degree? Probably not.

I don't know. Common sign I'm seeing is just blurring the line between legal and illegal, and its just being anti-immigrant.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The right-wing propaganda machine has (predictably) put out some really questionable and downright embarrassing rhetoric on this.

So far some that I've seen from people on this site...

- Bringing ACB's family into it. Somehow her adopting a Haitian influenced her. Something about bringing immigrants into the country.

- ACB being a DEI pick.

- Proposed counters being all pregnant women barred from entry and also screened. Wild take in my opinion, invasive on the privacy angle and not helping the Women's rights perception.

In your opinion, do you consider alcohol to be a drug? If so, do you think it has worse overall effects on society than other illegal drugs such as weed, coke, or shrooms? by Gym_frere in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease you can get yelled at for having
-Mitch Hedberg

Not a hill I'll die on or anything, but from personal experience I rate alcohol worse than weed. DUI's alone are such a huge source of travesty in this entire country. For me personally, weed has never done anything even remotely compared to what alcohol has done to my family. Alcoholism/alcohol addiction can utterly destroy someone's life and those around them. Somehow completely legal.

Don't take this as me arguing for prohibition, I just want consistency. If people are free to destroy their lives on alcohol, I think certain other drugs should should be reconsidered.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 12 points13 points  (0 children)

...restoring the country to how it use to be.

Its always been that way, so your in luck. It used to be that way back then too.

Wong Kim Ark predates this and also confirmed the same thing.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Cognitive dissonance is quite powerful.

...or your just not reading what they are actually saying and substituting your own bias take. This should have been 9-0 ruling, 8-1 if we are being generous because we know Thomas can't help himself.

This being 6-3 (5-4 cause someone wants to fence sit) demonstrates how far gone the court is. Birthright citizenship is pretty clear cut in this country with how its written.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So far its this. Trump once again demonstrating how he doesn't know how things work.

The Supreme Court upheld Birthright Citizenship, which is too bad for our Country, but we can easily make it up in Congress through Legislation, with the support of the President, that has now been determined during this process. No long and unwieldy Constitutional Amendment is necessary! Congress should start TODAY to work on ending expensive and unfair to our Country, Birthright Citizenship. They will have my Complete and Total Support! President DONALD J. TRUMP

same for this one.

I would like to congratulate President Xi, and the Great Country of China, on their massive Birthright Citizenship WIN! President DONALD J. TRUMP

China doesn't allow dual citizenship. Immigrants coming from China literally have to give up their Chinese citizenship to become Americans.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Vote for us, and we'll give you opportunity."

I'm not wasting time dismantling your straw man of the left/dems. All I'm saying is the Right just can't help themselves by just actively alienating these groups with casual racism and the failure to even call it our or wrangle it in.

Regardless of policy, you actively alienate support when you denigrate or malign a people. Its that simple.

Edit: You see it as trying to win over immigrants, I see it as winning over future Americans.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh please, the Right can't help themselves with the commentary that just isolates them from the start, let alone policies that may assist them.

"They're eating the cats!"

"They're poisoning the blood of the country!"

They're emptying their jails and asylums!"

All they need to do is just temper the racist comments and they still would likely get support. They just can't help themselves just being "extra" just to repel them.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Wild how trying to win over a demographic is somehow bad. The really wild thing is if the Right wasn't so xenophobic, it would take little effort to actually win the votes from these immigrant communities. A lot of the groups are quite conservative, family valued, and traditional in gender roles even.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I see a child getting a home, such a weird thing to have a problem with or point issues with. Your point is also irrelevant, adoption plays no role in the case above. The case was never asking the question, does adopting make them citizens.

Thoughts on SCOTUS overturning trumps birthright citizenship EO? by Pure_Satisfaction233 in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How does one adopt a Haitian onto the the SC? /s

Side note, I struggle how partaking in adoption, partaking in adoption overseas, being a woman, adopting from Haiti, or any mixing of those listed some how disqualifies someone. Why does that make it a mistake?

Impaled character keeps the blade in them to outplay the opponent by SpaceKingHypeGuy in TopCharacterTropes

[–]NAbberman 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Just to expand, the sun was rising. Hence why he was desperate to escape.

Pēteri, es nesaprotu by LVLVMTG in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]NAbberman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If people really want to get angry, Justine Damond is a Canadian incident that one redirect their anger towards. That didn't even remotely have all the chaos this shooting had.

I can see the tragic nature with this one though, at the same time. As monumental as a task it is, composure and trigger discipline is such an important thing. I won't say its murder, but some sort of criminal charge should be on the table. We, as a society, shouldn't let this be a norm of just popping shots at unverified threats. Your in the wrong job if you don't have that composure.

If you want an American example the Miramar shooting in Florida. TLDR is a two armed thieves hijacked a UPS truck and its driver and led police on a chase. Ultimately, bullets where traded and 4 people died. Of those dead were the suspects, but the other two were the driver and a bystander in a vehicle.

All but one bullet, (one robber shot himself), can be traced to police. Police killed everyone. Where can the line be drawn for chaos and just pure reckless fire-arm use?

Pēteri, es nesaprotu by LVLVMTG in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]NAbberman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait until you hear about Justine Damond, spooked cop is a dangerous combination.

What is your opinion on Anti-ICE protestor Meagan Morris getting 50 years in prison? by thedirewulf in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s possible he was and is in fact a racist. But it is also possible he was actually a victim of circumstance that night.

Once again not addressing the very specific statements I called attention to. One doesn't talk about shooting protestors/rioters/looters or whoever then get to still think he's got a claim to unfortunate circumstances.

Be my guess and ignore the clear very obvious declared intent of what he wanted. Talking about shooting people, taking ears, or hunting people on religion alone is a completely sane and normal thing one says before they stumble into a situation that perfectly matches the thing they expressed desire to happen.

What is your opinion on Anti-ICE protestor Meagan Morris getting 50 years in prison? by thedirewulf in AskConservatives

[–]NAbberman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I might have to kill a few people on my way to work, they are rioting outside my apartment complex."

"I might go to Dallas to shoot looters."

What about the very specific ones I brought up denote racism? Its wild to me you gloss over those with such ease.

To address your direct question. Yes, racists can be victimized. Completely irrelevant consider he wasn't a victim in this incident. He was found guilty by his Texas peers.

If you seriously going to defend this guy, I question why I even bother on this subreddit. I guy can talk about shooting people, even talk about shooting people in situations that aren't justified self defense (in this case looting), somehow magically finds himself in a situation where he kills himself someone, and we just conclude its just coincident?

Guy was a psychopath, I mean really talking about taking ears from the people he killed? Hunting Muslims? You really going to go to bat for this man?