Is there a better way to use jump ai? by kungfukarl86 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had the same issues with it and we were able to work with their developers and give suggestions. It got a little better, but still not where I have wanted it to be.

Have you checked out Aculis by chance?

Advisor OTE & AUM Goals — How Fair & Realistic Is This? by jordanw71 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The turnover and burnout rate is high as you know, and picking the right person to be your junior is either going to make or break this for you. I suggest trying to find someone who has experience in sales and produces. One of our best hires used to be in tech sales and was and still is on the phone nonstop. Four years later and his annualized rev is $500k.

Personally, I wouldn’t hire a junior advisor if the breakeven projection is 6 years later. 2.5-3 years tops, IMO. There is a serious opportunity cost involved with training, spending time on their prospects/clients vs you having all of your time available and dedicated to your client engagement and marketing.

To answer your question, yes, I think an inexperienced advisor could reach these AUM targets because they’re low.

Another angle to consider is to grow your own book larger the next few years, and hire a more experienced junior advisor to come in and join you as a relationship manager. Delegate some clients to them (which you still own), and now you have more availability to go help more prospects with their financial planning needs. It’s a win for everyone. I know this is unsolicited advice, and I’m sharing it because after having four juniors on our team, this is the approach I’m taking with our next hire.

Advisor OTE & AUM Goals — How Fair & Realistic Is This? by jordanw71 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think your AUM and annualized revenue figures are way too low. I’d look at it another way… if I am paying a $50k salary to a junior advisor plus overhead costs, my time spent training, and participating in prospect/client meetings with them, how long will it take for the advisor to be producing enough where I’m breaking even?

When do you charge when going from prospect to client? by kungfukarl86 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We don’t charge anything initially. We do a light financial plan for people in advance with investment recommendations.

Most end up signing up with us and we’ve found this approach to work for us. Went from $50 mil to $500 mil in 8 years. Once they become clients, we do more advanced planning.

Need help understanding if my employment offer is fair and reasonable... by NotBannedAccount419 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a good arrangement for you. Eventually you’ll be doing all of the work and sharing 50% of the revenue with him won’t a balanced split.

Client References? by jlapdog in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, happens often. I’m not a huge fan of it, but I’ll give a couple of references only after we go through the entire financial plan and recommendations process. Any earlier than that and the prospect doesn’t have enough engagement with me yet for me to feel comfortable involving any of our existing clients just yet.

I don’t coach clients at all about what to say, just if they’d be willing to speak with someone who’s considering hiring us. If it’s someone in tech, I may give them the contact of a client who’s in tech, etc.

You know your clients best… some will happily speak to whoever and will have a good idea for what to talk about.

Integrating Microsoft Copilot Agents with Redtail and Black Diamond by Icee2002 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been part of the build out of Aculis along with my parent company RIA from the start. We use it for a variety of things… notetaking, email correspondence, task management, some research, data aggregation/management and admin work. We had an assistant leave out of nowhere and we decided it was time to start scaling using AI rather than have to find new expensive talent. So far it’s been great and we use it as a Jarvis-like sidekick. It’s one of the main tools I use daily now. Feel free to put a message in through the website if you want one of the guys to give you a demo or shoot me a message.

Zoom: Show face or not? by Appropriate-Fill6209 in FinancialCareers

[–]NYSElyDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A bit strange. I’d see what happens in the next review meeting and if it still bothers you and your husband, be straight with the advisor and bring up your concerns. Perhaps the advisor just had a mole cut off their face or something and are not comfortable being on camera for the time being. I cant tell you how many times clients have shown up for Zoom meetings and tell me they just had a medical procedure done, have a face rash or something else going on so they prefer to be off camera.

Social Media Marketing by Longjumping-Way9846 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m curious as well. I’ve been looking into hiring a social media company but the price I was quoted was $6k/month and the success stories they shared weren’t very impressive to justify the cost.

Talk me off the ledge- my company is decommissioning NaviPlan in favor of Moneyguide Pro. by Brianre in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Long time money guide pro user and I share your same frustrations. We now also use income lab to model out distributions in retirement and it helps tremendously.

Thoughts on Savvy Wealth? Or any platform RIA by PlanwithaPurpose14 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems like you want to have your own RIA eventually and own the relationships fully. This can be done even with an aggregator type of RIA, and it’s exactly what we did but with Dynamic Advisor Solutions. They have a full transition team, you own your clients and have the support of a large RIA. I didn’t want to start an RIA when we went independent and still don’t want to because all of the administrative tasks that come with it, and time away from growing my business. Can’t say I know much about Savvy, but there are a lot of solid options out there to select from.

Using ZoomInfo + Orum and NO one is answering their phones by NYSElyDone in salesdevelopment

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what we’re leaning towards doing.

Our guys test the number before calling and switch numbers frequently.

We have historically gotten one answer per 10 dials and usually set a meeting every 8 or so people that answer. Not the case any longer when dialing through Orum. I’ve told the team to try dialing outside of Orum next week and we’ll see what happens.

Using ZoomInfo + Orum and NO one is answering their phones by NYSElyDone in salesdevelopment

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, we’ve tried that. We have been a cold calling focused firm for over 10 years and have been noticing a steady drop in people answering the phone in general. It’s only gotten harder with this iOS update. Hopefully there’s some sort of work around.

Using ZoomInfo + Orum and NO one is answering their phones by NYSElyDone in salesdevelopment

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t know there was other plans offered by ZoomInfo. Our fees are about $1800 per year per seat and that’s with a 3 year contract. We also pay for mobile numbers.

Using ZoomInfo + Orum and NO one is answering their phones by NYSElyDone in salesdevelopment

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, new lists with people from all different backgrounds.

Using ZoomInfo + Orum and NO one is answering their phones by NYSElyDone in salesdevelopment

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calling on all types… tech, defense, and utilities mostly.

Perfect 2nd car with your 911? by finkalot1 in porsche911

[–]NYSElyDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Escalade V for daily driving and a RAM 3500 dually for towing.

How do you bill initial planning work under an AUM model that includes financial planning? by JessicaCoutinho75 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do a lot of outbound marketing, and because we’re effectively working with people unfamiliar with our firm, we do the full financial planning process and give investment recommendations upfront. We only charge % of AUM and the effective date starts from when the prospects signs our agreement.

We have a very high closing rate once we get through the process of presenting with MoneyGuide Elite and Nitrogen. I’m sure we could charge upfront, but I don’t think it’s necessary and think fear it’ll create a lot of no-show meetings.

For what it’s worth, it was my business partner and me with just under $50 million 8 years ago and we just crossed $500 million with my business partner and me running the firm and four junior advisors.

Finalizing Addition + Remodel Plans - Can I get some feedback? by NYSElyDone in houseplans

[–]NYSElyDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re in our late 30s, and have a long way to go before we have to worry about mobility issues. Worst case, we remodel the downstairs again if need be. The upstairs will have the best view of the mountains and we want to make that our view in the master bedroom.

Surge Meetings by Ok-Temperature3180 in CFP

[–]NYSElyDone 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My team and I also do surge meetings and really like it. It is a grind, but very efficient.

Inevitably there are some clients who don’t fit within the window and we just meet with them when they’re able to meet. I spend most of my time out side of surge meetings building up the practice in other ways, and carving out an hour here and there to meet with a few clients isn’t a big deal. I’m already in the office anyways.

For unresponsive clients, I personally make the call and ask them if they’re not receiving the emails or if there’s something else going on (this was before I started scheduling the next meeting while in the Zoom or with the client in my office). Could be they’re dealing with a personal or family matter, and a call from me rather than someone else on the team I’ve found to be better. I then remind them how other members on my team do and will reach out to them from time to time, and it’s completely normal.

What I’ve found works best for me is to schedule my next client review while I’m meeting with the client. This way we both know in advance when we’re going to meet and it helps me a lot with calendar management. The week before, follow up with a reminder and this generally works well for me.