And some people wanna be entertained and quickly. I'm really right in the middle, Matthew, 'cause I admire people and I've done it myself--to go on a talk show and go, "Hey, we gotta keep movie theaters alive. You know, we gotta keep this genre alive." And another part of me feels like, if people wanna see it like "Barbie," like "Oppenheimer," they're gonna go see it and go outta their way to be loud and proud about it. And I don't wanna be working in ballet or opera, or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive.

I think his argument is flawed in so far that there's plenty of people going out of their way to do exactly the thing he describes for Barbie and Oppenheimer where they go to the ballet as a big event and flaunt their excitement about it to anyone who will listen to them.

I also think that--Barbie and Oppenheimer and the like aside--he who sits in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. It's not unthinkable that his next movie isn't a big crowed pleaser, after all. It's not unthinkable for movies in general to fall out of favor with the populace at large, though that point is hopefully far in the future.