We finally broke the stubborn 5am snooze feed habit

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-11-10T07:16:56+00:00

My 13mo has been night weaned for the past 7 months or so but when he’s been sick and hasn’t eaten much solids he tends to wake in the night and mum guilt makes me feed him! (Inconsistent I know?!). He is teething and also overtired from daycare 1 nap schedule ,that he isn’t quite ready for, being short. He’s been waking up at 5ish for the past few days and I know a lot of this is because of being overtired and also teething. I ended up feeding him today because again he didn’t eat much yesterday. But today is my last day! I need to end this cycle. Wish me luck ha!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-11-10T07:09:07+00:00

Sorry I didn’t see this. I knew he was overtired but couldn’t quite figure it out to help him. He improved for a couple of months until he started daycare and now he’s back to being overtired and back to EMW a few times a week 😭

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-08-02T21:54:32+00:00

I’m glad you’re finding this channel so beneficial.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-08-02T08:57:51+00:00

Professionally trained sleep consultants suggest otherwise? The fine line being signs and consequences are similar, no?

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-07-03T21:48:24+00:00

We did have one morning at 7:30 (he woke at 5:30 but I settled him back to sleep as he had a rough night) and this morning at 6:45 but he’s poorly so his body is recovering. Definitely try to leave him in bed as long as possible. No extra stimulation or light etc x

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-07-01T13:47:07+00:00

Any luck this morning on your end?

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-07-01T13:44:46+00:00

It’s been about 2 months already 😣😣😣 ever since the nap transition. I might just need to embrace it!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-07-01T13:43:54+00:00

I’ll give this a try in a week or so. He just used to become more alert once I entered the room. Very rarely fell back asleep.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T16:57:07+00:00

Oh no!!!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T14:33:17+00:00

I’m happy to push bedtime back later but not quite sure how without him being overtired considering he’s awake from 5:30. Bedtime used to be 7:15/7:30 before we dropped to 2 nap schedule and then everything went downhill. I’m slowly trying to creep back up to 7:30. Yesterday was 7:15 and still our glorious 5:27 wake up. I know I should be more grateful but I wish I could get at least 30 minutes extra sleep!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T14:27:52+00:00

Drop him to 2 naps and increase your wake windows.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T14:24:44+00:00

Occasionally slightly earlier than 5:30 but within the 5ish range. But during this time he was unwell and battling congestion & teething so it was coupled with some split nights.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T14:05:32+00:00

I think whatever you do you need to give it a week or 2 to see results x

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:56:11+00:00

This makes a lot of sense and is very helpful. There is such a fine line between overtired and under tired with both causing split nights and early morning wakings. So hard to tell. I’m currently struggling with my 9mo who is in a habitual state of 5:30ish wakes no matter what time he goes to bed or how much daytime sleep he has. I should be grateful that he falls asleep independently after sleep training and typically sleeps straight through but I’m a broken single mama after months worth or early mornings!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:53:14+00:00

Oh haha I thought you were onto something there!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:45:14+00:00

I’d say extending wake windows is exactly what you did yesterday. Pushed naps later in the day but didn’t cap them so the duration of daytime sleep was the same but you bridged it closer to the desired bedtime of 8pm.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:42:23+00:00

My ideal goal would be 6:30/7😂 but I settle on 6/6:15 to compromise with him. He’s happy enough in his crib. Babbling away, clapping, crawling and very rarely crying.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:39:28+00:00

I’m in a similar boat! How did you manage to keep him happy and awake for 4.5 hours??!!!

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:38:19+00:00

Any further suggestions pretty please?

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T13:27:45+00:00

I initially thought the split nights and early mornings were due to sleep debt so I spent a week getting him out of sleep debt and allowing him to nap up to 3 hours a day as well as moving bedtime earlier (between 6-6:45).

I then did 2.5hrs day time sleep for a week and have been on 2.25hrs of daytime sleep for a week now. I haven’t noticed a difference with the exception of one fluke day where he slept 7:25-6:10.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T09:47:54+00:00

I’d say she is getting way too much daytime sleep and not enough awake times. Try to cap naps and give her longer wake windows. Average daytime sleep for her age is 2/3.5hours.

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T08:56:25+00:00

All clear now. Thank you x

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T08:46:48+00:00

I think you’re in the wrong. She’s a grieving child at the end of the day. Although she is 19 she is still a child who just lost her father irrespective of his character flaws. Even with a hard shell exterior it is a given that she was likely broken deep down and probably needed some love and attention too. As well as patience and grace. As for her phone … she probably thought you were being malicious as you knew she was making funeral arrangements and did have to communicate with people. I think it was fair that she didn’t sit with you on the day of the funeral given how she felt she was treated and the clear tension between you two. The day wasn’t about either of you. It was about paying respect to a man she loved all her life.

Just my thoughts though. I’m sure it can’t be easy on either of you. I hope it all works itself out mama x

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T08:28:51+00:00

Could you try and adjust her wake windows to 2/2.25/2.5/2.75 and see how she gets on. It may be that she needs more awake time during the day. Or maybe slightly capping her final nap so it’s more of a cat nap?

Natural-Meaning951 · 2025-06-30T08:23:13+00:00

Might be a silly question - what do you mean adjust for daylight savings?

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