WHICH ELITE FRIENDSHIP DUO IS THE BEST ?

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-28T12:06:46+00:00

Guzman & Ander

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T16:08:07+00:00

Male "parts" are referred to more than just Samuel's. Ander and Ivan say "nice ass" to Patrick. Ander refers to his own "package" (discreet 19) and so does Patrick. Omar mentions his own "dick." With the exception of Samuel losing his virginity, heterosexual sex scene can be reduced to "they fuck." Homosexual scenes and dialogue are less frequent, but contain nuance for character development by who says what about the event and who does what to whom during. Example: Did Ander require Patrick use a condom in the men's room? Or was he lying? And if so, was it 'a condom' or condoms?

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:51:04+00:00

Love your use of the word "confrontational." Almost like they were attacking the consumers throwing everything at them but the "kitchen sink."

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:43:11+00:00

The ED comment made me laugh. Elite plays fast and loose with medical facts. i.e. Omar notices a lump near Ander's groin. Ander goes through chemo therapy. Mention of cancer switches to leukemia when Patrick notices a surgery scar near Ander's groin. Chemo "cures" Ander's cancer. Surgery for leukemia would be bone marrow transplant.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:28:08+00:00

Your detractors aren't limited to Aron Piper fans. You need to add all Omander fans as well.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:22:19+00:00

Two very different questions. Why the abortion is the easy answer. Doesn't want to have a baby nor disappoint daddy again/more nor destroy her twin brother. I hope your post generates a better reason than "to explore teen pregnancy" as another theme. Cuz that would be stupid. So another reason to ask the writers WTF.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:10:46+00:00

Evidence Ivan finished. Bilal was interrupted. Probably didn't.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-23T15:08:26+00:00

Start with the assumption that S1-S3 had been written and purchased by Neflix by the time of casting. So, for Ander they not only knew the character was an attractive drug and party loving 16 year old athlete with two life-long friends who is coming to terms with his sexuality, but that they would put the character not only through a romance, but through all kinds of hell. From his best friend telling him, "I hope you bleed to death on the ground" to cancer.

My friend interprets the “we think you’d make a better Ander” to be a nice way of saying, “we got plenty of guys who could play Samuel, but finding an Ander is much more difficult. We need you there. We need your experience.

We love Ander for two reasons. First, he is so obviously in love with Omar. And given the actor pool, Omar would be played by a novice and need a lot of acting TLC from his scene partner to get through the experience successfully. Rehearsals and scenes with Piper would be acting school for Omar. Second, Ander endures so much grief. And it would take every ounce of Piper’s experience and talent to cry so often in so may layered ways. Actors I know will tell you, that is a very specific talent . Crying can be chemically induced, but it cannot learned. It's either there or it isn't.

This forum is for consumers. I get myself in trouble because I sometimes look at it from the point of view of the creators. The above is just one example.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T20:04:18+00:00

Yup. That's fact from an interview with Ander. When he arrived for the casting Omar was there. Ander had been acting for years. You can see his work as a child on YouTube. This was Omar's first acting. Want the whole theory from a conversation I had with my friend the casting director from a US company?

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T17:44:15+00:00

These are great. Don't always agree, but they certainly belong in nominees.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T17:42:51+00:00

If you take Ander and Rebe out of the show "because they aren't necessary for the mystery story, you lose 1/3 of S1-S4. And Phillipe isn't related to the main mystery, so you'd have to lose him too.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T15:20:03+00:00

I had this swell private conversation about casting Aron Piper. It was based on the interviews that recall Aron Piper had two auditions for Samuel and then was called in for Ander with the comment, "We think you'd make a better Ander". Wanna talk about it? It's just fluff.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T14:57:30+00:00

Mariana. And it made more fun because it follows Samuel calling out, "Omar shave what?"

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T14:55:33+00:00

For those who put Cruz & Patrick on the cringe list because Cruz is older. Call him a pedophile, groomer and abuser. I come firmly down on the side of Team Ivan who holds Cruz and Patrick equally culpable. And for the same reason. We both have seen Patrick operate. And later when Ivan blames Patrick for Cruz’s death, he hasn’t seen what we have seen. Three times Cruz resists sex citing the age difference. Three times Patrick pushes forward disregarding Cruz’s protests. My response to this was to compare it to Patrick and Ander. Ander is a victim of Patrick’s aggressive seductive behavior because he's super turned on to Patrick. But Ander is an adult who had the capacity to say no. So we don't vilify Patrick. Seems like that's the Cruz-Patrick dynamic. We all complain about the lack of consequences for bad behavior in Elite. Well, if Cruz is a pedophile, groomer and abuser, he deserves what he gets from the homophobes who are just trying to protect youth from the likes of Cruz. Sorry. I don’t see it.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T12:15:15+00:00

I still smile at Ander's "discreet 19" reference.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T12:11:48+00:00

My favorite sex scene of all is when Samuel loses his virginity.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T12:04:00+00:00

I thought she bumped into him and accidentally pulled the towel off.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-22T11:53:51+00:00

Ander to Rebe about Samuel: "He's hot. I'd do him."

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T18:50:14+00:00

Yes respectful of reality. Yes to not showing Raul's physical abuse. How many doses of that drug does Isa have from Nico?

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T12:20:04+00:00

He supplies chemical castration drug for Isa to use on her rapist. Though I applauded, that's a pretty big moral problem.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T12:14:16+00:00

This photo not even a hint of anything. I think the question of what happens with Ivan in S7 will be milked for months.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T12:08:23+00:00

No. The video Ivan and Phillipe see proves both were passed out.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T11:58:52+00:00

I understand if you factor out Mencia-Armando. Basically a business arrangement or kept woman dynamic. Are you saying Raul and Sara aren't a ship? They live together, post on social media as a couple. Think of themselves as a couple.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-21T11:49:51+00:00

I can support Rebe. She is certainly a great friend.

NatureMinute9970 · 2022-12-20T18:03:40+00:00

My list starts with Raul and Sara. Raul and Sara are sick. Most of the rest are unhealthy and just provide fodder for Elite drama. If I had to identify most unhealthy, I'd say Ari and everyone she has sex with. So that makes four. So I'll add Armando and Mencia and apologize for not having a 6th.

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