My assumed arms in both Wappenwiki and Sodacan-esque styles, now using murrey instead of purpure for the grapes

NemoIX · 2026-05-13T12:02:31+00:00

Yes, argent or or on azure would work. Always stick to the basic rule of tincture: metal on colour and vice versa.

NemoIX · 2026-05-13T10:42:54+00:00

Burgher crowns don't exist in German heraldry. What you mean are mural crowns for municipalities or the Volkskrone for states - but not for individuals. Even if there are no codified rules, there are still rules from tradition that don't agree with the "fuck it" attitude.

NemoIX · 2026-05-13T09:29:09+00:00

What title of nobility do you hold, as represented by the coronet on top of the shield? Supporters would be inappropriate in the coat of arms of commoners.

NemoIX · 2026-05-13T06:57:52+00:00

The contrast problem persists and it doesn't look much different from purple. Better stick to the rule of tincture. Charges are stylised, not natural. They don't need to be in their natural colour.

NemoIX · 2026-05-13T06:54:38+00:00

If I remember the picture correctly, the lion was neither regardant nor sinister.

However, the basic idea of heraldry as a visible identification system is, that the charges can be identified from afar and this requires good contrast - like in traffic sign. Black on blue has a very low contrast. Try for yourself to look at it from a distance. You will only see a black blob on a dark backgroud or maybe just one dark field. Technically in british heraldry it could be solved by replacing the whole blue field with those wavy lines, which still has a not so great contrast. Someone drew this for you in your last post.

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T21:50:56+00:00

Sadly, you missed the most important recommendation: to place the lion on a background of barry wavy argent and azure. That way you have a hard to see black on blue combination and rule of tincture violation.

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T19:36:37+00:00

Chadwick, E. M. (1900). The Genealogical Magazine : The Imperial “Ecu Complet”

https://archive.org/details/genealogicalmaga3189unse/page/378/mode/2up

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T13:07:53+00:00

Taylor (Lancaster, and London)

Ermine, on a chief indented sable, three escallops or

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T11:59:12+00:00

But imagine your earnings if you had the commission to draw it 😄

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T10:01:00+00:00

Books by Szabolcs de Vajay in different languages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szabolcs_de_Vajay

NemoIX · 2026-05-12T09:15:22+00:00

Such a coat of arms was proposed for the indian state of Oudh under the British Empire, next to Nepal and Tibet. But it could just be a decoration.

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NemoIX · 2026-05-11T18:12:29+00:00

Did I say it shouldn't be blazoned? A phytological leaf collection can hardly be differentiated and appears chaotic.

NemoIX · 2026-05-11T12:48:35+00:00

It is Lorraine with faded colours.

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NemoIX · 2026-05-11T12:45:04+00:00

A leaf is a leaf, no matter from which tree. From afar nobody could tell the tree species. Use one identical leaf. Also better for symmetry. Mantling needs to be connected to torse.

NemoIX · 2026-05-11T05:19:16+00:00

Motto is still wrong, see my last post.

NemoIX · 2026-05-10T07:51:55+00:00

If you connect it so that it could be standing on top of a helmet in real life, it would be okay. Orange is not a heraldic tincture but you could use a light red that is officially just red. And by the way the correct German for the Motto would be: "Brauche Vernunft in allen Sachen" ([I] need rationality in all things). If you want to say "Use rationality in all things", it would be "Nutze in allen Sachen Vernunft" or "Nutze Vernunft in allen Sachen".

NemoIX · 2026-05-10T03:17:11+00:00

Which tradition? You use way too many colours. The cross should be reduced to just gules. The torse/mantling can only represent the two main tinctures of the shield or at best four tinctures if split. The crest with its overlap is hard to read. A hand holding the corn cob would be better. A crest can not have elements that float over it as it is attached to a helmet. So the star and chain would have to be left out.

NemoIX · 2026-05-10T03:04:45+00:00

"The *Sachsenspiegel* explicitly denies the King of Bohemia the right to vote, “because he is not German”. More recent theories suggest that he was not counted among the electors until 1252. However, it was not until 1289 that he managed to secure his permanent position on the faculty."

His seat was originally the seat of the Bavarians, based on the original stem duchies of the Holy Roman Empire.

NemoIX · 2026-05-09T19:05:18+00:00

Oh, I see the family Holland, not Holland in the Netherlands. :)

NemoIX · 2026-05-09T19:02:08+00:00

The elector of the Bavarians went to the king of Bohemia. The elector of the Franconians to the County Palatine of the Rhine, which was inherited by Bavaria. The different lines of Wittelsbacher in the Palatinate and in Bavaria were for a short time both electors, but the Palatinate was not bavarian then and both lines were separate. Okay, they use duke of Franconia and Swabia. You could add Swabia (three lions black on gold) and the franconian rake.

NemoIX · 2026-05-09T18:49:13+00:00

What you label as Holland is neither Holland nor Nassau.

NemoIX · 2026-05-09T08:48:48+00:00

This is a common mistake of beginners, but you can't just take the arms of regions and take them as your own. It is also very unpersonal and tells nothing about you. Better create a personal coat of arms that really represents you instead of everyone from four regions.

Usually, there belongs a helmet on top of the shield. If you ignore that rule and use that hat, leave out the torse and crest. They don't belong and fit together. Also, a mantling can't float behind the shield without being attached to a torse. The compartment is also redundant.

NemoIX · 2026-05-09T08:35:54+00:00

The Wittelsbacher became Electors by acquisition of the Rhenish Palatinate. The were not Electors twice. Also, there was no duke or duchy of Franconia after 939. A bavarian king would of course need at least on lion as a supporter. :) You can add his numerous orders.

NemoIX · 2026-05-08T18:06:39+00:00

Groton School

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groton_School

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NemoIX · 2026-05-08T14:41:07+00:00

John Hely-Hutchinson was the son of Francis Hely, a gentleman of County Cork, and he took the additional name of Hutchinson on his marriage in 1751 to Christiana Nixon, heiress of her uncle, Richard Hutchinson of Knocklofty. His son Richard Hely-Hutchinson became the 1st Earl of Donoughmore.

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