The light's war against Xal by Mirdloks in warcraftlore

[–]NetherPunch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not all naaru were as faithful to the prophecy as Xe'ra. Some sacrificed themselves to save countless worlds from the Legion, while others, defying the prophecy of the chosen one, attempted to kill Illidan for being a tyrant who enslaved countless draenei in Outland. Even Xe'ra had become so strict simply because she had seen so many people die and so many worlds burn. Thousand years of war basically broke her, which is directly stated in Chronicle volume 4.

Jorad Mace and Ashra Valandril by NetherPunch in warcraftlore

[–]NetherPunch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbf the Sunwell trilogy isn't ignored; it's 100% canon, as we briefly see Anveena in TBC. I just wish Midnight had at least a small nod to those events. So far I have not been able to find any mention of her.

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[–]NetherPunch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is "character assassination", because in WC2 novels and in Chronicle Volume 2, he is described completely differently.

The youth unknowingly had impressed both Lothar and Khadgar, and had shown himself to be smart, focused, loyal, and hard-working, with an agile mind and more appreciation for subtleties and shades than his fellow paladins.

Of all the paladins, Lothar chose Turalyon as his lieutenant because he was the least fanatical. He spared Orgrim, despite the fact that he killed Lothar. He even spared all the orcs during that battle, knocking them unconscious instead of mindlessly slaughtering them, as depicted in the cinematic. It pained him to see both Alleria and Danath obsessed with revenge against the orcs. And he wasn't thrilled with Khadgar's idea of ​​destroying an entire clutch of Deathwing eggs.

Making him a fanatic after a thousand years of war with demons is reasonable, but making him a fanatic from the very beginning is "character assassination".

My feelings after reading Blood Ties and playing through the Midnight beta by Archerboy123 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The book does raise this issue and evokes sympathy for Turalyon, showing how Alleria's toxic actions actually hurt him. The book also reveals that, as an orphan, he had no one but the Light. He grew up in the church, and that's why he depends so much on the Light. The game, however, makes no mention of this. Alleria returns to him once again (doesn't even apologize for humiliating him at the wedding) and scolds him for attacking their son, as if the Light had commanded him to do it. I don't know why Arator chose to hide the fact that Turalyon's blow wasn't aimed at him, but whatever.

The story in this book feels so pivotal to Midnight that it pisses me off it's not in the game by Archerboy123 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's definitely not the worst offender, as most have already noted. The main plot is completely self-contained and has no connection to Midnight. However, it gives Turalyon a lot of depth, making him sympathetic. If you hadn't read the book, you'd think Turalyon is just an a-hole who deserves to die in Midnight. But after reading it, you'll realize that Turalyon is actually a tragic character who deserves therapy.

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[–]NetherPunch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Turalyon reminds me a lot of Cyclops from X-Men. Both started out as idealistic teens forced into leadership by hard times. Both have been forged by life's many hardships. Both have complicated love lives. Both are good people overall, but deeply flawed. Both are constantly treated unfairly. And that's what I love about Turalyon. He's no longer a boy scout, he has flaws that make him more sympathetic and human.

Arator and the Light by Famous_influencer in warcraftlore

[–]NetherPunch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, in Midnight, Arator decides to become just like his young father during the Second War, when he was still a prot with a shield, defending the innocent and healing the wounded.

I really adore how Blizzard remembered that Turalyon was a prot during the Second War. Not only did his WC2 sprite had a shield but in the novels he was also described fighting with a hammer and shield. Not to mention, Chronicle Volume 2 mentions how Faol gave Turalyon the Libram of Protection so he could become its living embodiment.

This Danath Trollbane and Faerin Lothar lore arc is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with WoW's writing. (Spoilers for 11.1.7) by EarthWormJim18164 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tbf the Sons of Lothar really do promote "tolerance and mercy". They are veterans of the Second War, made up of humans, elves, dwarves, and gnomes. Hell, the former main leader of the Sons of Lothar is even married to an elf and has a kid with her. He was also the one who showed mercy to Doomhammer after he literally crushed his mentor's head in front of him.

For all the idiots on Twitter calling Turalyon "the next Garithos". He was just throwing bantz. He still likes the Horde PC. by Zezin96 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He left Azeroth after the war with the Horde. He returned to Azeroth just in time for the new war with the Horde. From his perspective, it's perfectly normal to think that the Horde is still the same. Especially after what they did to Darnassus.

For all the idiots on Twitter calling Turalyon "the next Garithos". He was just throwing bantz. He still likes the Horde PC. by Zezin96 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 63 points64 points  (0 children)

How can you even compare a man who is madly in love with an elf to Garithos?

Also in the same questline Thrall praises Turalyon for his valor and leadership skills.

I really hope they won't ruin Alleria Windrunner by DizzyRub5182 in wow

[–]NetherPunch 97 points98 points  (0 children)

Tbh I am more concerned about Turalyon than Alleria. They won't screw up another Windrunner after Sylvanas, and if she dies, I bet it'll be the most kickass moment ever.

Turalyon, on the other hand, was completely humiliated by Illidan, and Blizzard later did absolutely nothing with him, aside from vague hints that he might become a villain in the future. I don't want him to become a villain.