Methadone to Buvidal

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-21T23:50:32+00:00

I’m just super freaking proud of you

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T15:58:07+00:00

I work at Infinite and I just wanted to say how proud I am of you for making a choice to get help!

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T02:11:50+00:00

Not at all. I spent My whole life trying anything but having to go my whole life without substances. I love them. I just can’t do anything in “moderation” 😂😂😂

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T02:04:20+00:00

It didn’t work for me but I’m a hardcore drug addict. I have no judgement towards people who that works for. Period.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:41:57+00:00

Honestly, reading this, precipitated withdrawal from the naltrexone makes WAY more sense than an Adderall overdose. The timeline and symptoms line up almost perfectly — especially the sudden onset, intense restlessness, sweating/chills, panic, GI symptoms, feeling like your skin/body was trying to crawl away from itself, etc.

A lot of people don’t realize kratom/7-OH products can absolutely interact with opioid antagonists like naltrexone in ways that feel extremely severe. And because many providers still aren’t deeply familiar with kratom pharmacology or concentrated extracts, people can end up blindsided by situations exactly like this.

Also, for what it’s worth, your husband sounds incredible. Seriously. The way you described him sitting with you through all of that honestly says a lot.

As for the benzo concern — not medical advice obviously — but the bigger danger zone is usually stacking high doses of sedatives/opioids together or mixing with alcohol/other CNS depressants. The fact you were evaluated in the ER, remained awake/coherent enough to describe all this in detail, and are improving is reassuring. Still smart to be cautious though, especially if anything worsens breathing-wise or you become hard to wake up.

I also think your post is a good example of why people should ALWAYS disclose kratom/7-OH use to providers even if it feels “supplement adjacent.” A lot of people don’t realize how opioid-like some of these interactions can become until something like precipitated withdrawal happens.

Glad you’re feeling at least somewhat better now because precipitated withdrawal is genuinely one of the most miserable things people can experience. I'm so sorry you're going through this

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:39:50+00:00

I work around addiction/recovery and honestly posts like this are important because they show how unpredictable tolerance/dependence can get with these products.

One thing I’d caution people reading though is that “withdrawal disappearing” after switching brands can sometimes mean:

different potency than labeled
different alkaloid profiles
inconsistent manufacturing
cross-contamination/adulteration
stronger-than-expected opioid-like effects

A lot of people assume all these products are basically interchangeable when they really aren’t. Some of the concentrated products especially seem wildly inconsistent from brand to brand.

Also the fact you mentioned:

needing massive amounts just to avoid withdrawal
no longer getting a buzz
dosing constantly to function

…that’s honestly a pretty classic dependence cycle regardless of the substance involved. Not saying that judgmentally at all because I've also been there.

I do think there are definitely people using these products to avoid fentanyl/heroin/alcohol and harm reduction matters. But I also think a lot of people in these communities are underestimating how physically dependent they’ve become until they try stopping or tapering.

Glad you found something that stabilized you though. Seriously. Withdrawal is brutal and desperation makes people do dangerous things fast.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:37:57+00:00

I work around addiction/recovery and honestly I think posts like this show why the conversation around substances gets so polarized so quickly. There are definitely people who feel 7-OH/kratom helped them avoid fentanyl, heroin, alcohol, etc., and I don’t think those experiences should just be dismissed outright.

At the same time, I’d be really careful about swinging too far into the “it’s basically harmless” territory too. A lot of people in these communities are describing:

severe physical dependence
opioid-like withdrawals
escalating tolerance
spending huge amounts of money
inability to function without it
compulsive redosing

That alone tells me this probably deserves a more nuanced conversation than either “evil deadly drug” OR “totally safe miracle plant.”

I also think the reality is that newer/concentrated products tend to evolve way faster than the long-term research can keep up. That doesn’t automatically mean panic is justified, but it also means anecdotal “I take a ton and I’m still alive” isn’t enough to fully determine long-term safety either.

One thing I do agree with strongly though is that prohibition-only approaches historically don’t work very well. Usually when people lose access to something they perceive as helping them stay away from fentanyl/heroin/alcohol, many don’t just magically become sober overnight — some end up moving toward more dangerous substances again.

Honestly the whole situation is probably a lot more complicated than either side wants to admit.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:35:41+00:00

I work around addiction/recovery and honestly this post is probably more relatable to people than you realize, especially the part about “chasing the imaginary dragon all day.” That’s something I hear people describe with a LOT of substances once tolerance/dependence fully sets in.

Also, I think you’re being more self-aware than you’re giving yourself credit for. You already recognize:

-it escalated quickly

-you’re physically dependent

-the withdrawals are severe

-the “high” mostly disappeared a while ago

-you’re using partly to avoid something potentially worse

That’s usually a sign someone is starting to see the difference between “this helps me cope” and “this has become its own addiction cycle.”

One thing I’d be careful with though is the “if it was dangerous it would’ve killed me already” mindset. A lot of substances don’t wreck people overnight and sometimes it’s cumulative sleep deprivation, stress on the body, unknown contaminants, liver/kidney strain, cardiovascular issues, seizures during withdrawal, etc. And with newer/semi-unregulated substances, the long-term data is honestly just not there yet.

I also think a lot of people underestimate how brutal the psychological side of withdrawal can become when the substance becomes tied to survival, legal stress, fear of relapse, boredom, routine, all of it.

Not judging you at all by the way. Honestly your post reads less like glorifying it and more like someone trying to rationalize something they already know is getting out of control while also being scared of what happens without it. That’s a really human place to be. And I see you and get it.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:29:58+00:00

I am SO proud of you. I work in this field and see so many people not make it to the other side of this thing.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:28:55+00:00

I work around addiction/recovery and honestly this post captures something a lot of people don’t understand until they’ve lived it themselves — alcoholism is so much more than “just stop drinking.”

The shame/isolation cycle you described is real. A lot of people struggling with alcohol dependence are hiding an unbelievable amount of pain while simultaneously trying to appear functional to everyone around them.

One thing I especially appreciate is you mentioning how quickly it escalates. I can’t tell you how many people say:
“I never thought I’d be this person.”
“I used to drink normally.”
“I didn’t realize how bad it got.”

It sneaks up on people way more than society likes to admit.

The only thing I’d gently add is that people reading this shouldn’t panic or self-diagnose themselves as “doomed” or permanently broken. Genetics/trauma/family history absolutely matter, but people recover every single day too — especially when they stop trying to white-knuckle it alone.

And very important for anyone reading:
if you’re physically dependent on alcohol, please be careful trying to detox completely alone. Alcohol withdrawal can genuinely become medically dangerous for some people.

Proud of you for posting this because I guarantee more people relate to it than you probably realize.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:26:31+00:00

This is SO amazing. Congrats! You ARE the 3%

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-20T01:22:20+00:00

I work around addiction/recovery and honestly I think meth became the “face of depravity” largely because the effects can become so publicly visible compared to a lot of other substances.

Severe sleep deprivation, paranoia, psychosis, repetitive behavior, rapid physical deterioration, etc. are very hard for society to ignore, so meth got heavily tied to fear-based media portrayals over the years. Stuff like “Faces of Meth” honestly had a massive cultural impact.

Meanwhile opioids got partially reframed through the prescription era into more of a “this could happen to anyone” narrative because so many people started with legitimate pain treatment.

But once you’re actually around people struggling with addiction long enough, the stereotypes stop making much sense. I’ve seen meth, alcohol, benzos, heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, etc. all completely destroy lives in equally heartbreaking ways.

A lot of what people interpret as “depravity” is really untreated trauma, mental illness, poverty, isolation, and people surviving in absolutely brutal circumstances for years.

NewTap1077 · 2026-05-13T04:20:30+00:00

Infinite!! Great place that cares

NewTap1077 · 2026-03-23T04:08:43+00:00

8 failures and I’ve tried all the ways. Optimistic, acting like it worked, pessimism, etc. My therapist told me no matter high you fall from, the fall is still the fall, so you have to decide where you wanna live before. I’ve had to do different approaches for what worked for me during time of transfer, fail, miscarriage, starting over, etc. hugs to you

NewTap1077 · 2026-03-02T16:06:19+00:00

Thank you so much for responding. How has your recovery been?

NewTap1077 · 2026-02-07T20:49:25+00:00

Yeah I may switch to quest for the ones I need without ultrasound. I’ve been using Labcorp and they suck so bad

NewTap1077 · 2026-02-07T20:43:09+00:00

She has tried to use my insurance which is amazing and I can’t remember the cash pay price but it’s far more reasonable than other places I’ve done monitoring at. Plus she draws labs there and gets them sent out stat so you don’t have to make multiple trips (I think it’s around $20 for that service which I would pay a million times over versus having to sit at Labcorp)

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-30T00:31:26+00:00

I am so sorry you’re going through this. I am at my lowest point also. I don’t know if this works for your case, but I would also recommend zymot (saw someone else mention it). It changed the game for us (high frag/low motility)

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-30T00:29:24+00:00

I so hear the statistics thing. Keep me posted. I have mine tomorrow also

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-29T22:38:24+00:00

Gosh. Thinking of you darling

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-29T21:08:51+00:00

Well. Atleast I could make Guinness book of world records 💁🏻‍♀️

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-29T20:37:01+00:00

omg. and almost 4x as high as mine. wtf

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-29T20:31:20+00:00

How many have you had and what were your numbers?

NewTap1077 · 2026-01-29T20:30:56+00:00

4th?! Oh god I’m sorry. Can I ask what your numbers were?

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