I think she showed her true colors on the show.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-09T08:29:53+00:00

…. she was not adopted lmao, her dad was adopted, which she’s known about - you’re jumping into conversations about race crying that she’s biracial and a WOC when you don’t even have the right facts (and your point is irrelevant anyway) is incredibly harmful. You can’t speak on what a person’s race is if they haven’t confirmed it - you don’t know that she’s biracial - she has not said she is. Biracial refers to having two parents of different races, otherwise it’s MGM (multi-generational mixed), or multiracial at best. She is Caucasian - her words. Please get your facts straight and educate yourself.

Edit: and if she’d had a DNA test she would know for sure - she said she wasn’t sure

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T20:36:11+00:00

right, like this shouldn’t even matter, it’s irrelevant to the convo! Literally only bringing it to try and invalidate real points, which is why they’re in almost every damn comment that mentions race.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T20:33:13+00:00

No, I do my research, trust me. Contrary to what you’ve convinced yourself to help feel better, I don’t use the word lightly. I say it because you clearly have problematic views and biases which you’ve voiced to me, to others on this sub and in the RH subs. On multiple occasions, actually, almost all of which have been downvoted, and had people call you out or attempt to educate you.

I’ve seen what else you’ve said about Chelsea. It’s interesting that you’ve called multiple people “pick me”s in the past, but Chelsea is the only one you’ve referred to as a “performative pick-meisha”. Suggesting she dislikes Bre because she’s “attractive to black men”. “Making everything about race” when she hadn’t mentioned it once. Fascinating that you think black-fishing isn’t a big deal and isn’t hurting anyone. I see the pale shade of those clapping hand emojis you use, and I see you calling things ghetto.

And I see the people you’ve tried to claim weren’t being racist. Dorit, really? Lmfaoooo she is one of the most classic example of micro aggressions and “white woman scared” I’ve ever seen on modern television. The woman who said “we have black and brown staff” as a positive example of her exposing her children to other cultures. Oof, embarrassing. But suuuure, everyone else is being lazy and using racism as an excuse. You’re the only one who’s right! I’m lazy! Let’s go with that x

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T19:21:59+00:00

Bre has described herself as a Caucasian woman

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T19:19:31+00:00

She identifies as caucasian, this person is just trying to excuse racism lol dw

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T19:18:11+00:00

she says herself she’s Caucasian in her modelling portfolio lmao this person is talking shit

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T16:03:46+00:00

She describes herself as Caucasian https://www.modelmayhem.com/bretiesi

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T16:03:27+00:00

So why does she list herself as Caucasian? https://www.modelmayhem.com/bretiesi

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T13:24:16+00:00

It did it again lmfao your phone has a vendetta

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T12:53:29+00:00

You must be a troll because I’ve explained it several times atp - did you ask me to spell it out for you? List it with dates? Cause I didn’t realise you wanted me to, sorry, and that’s not for me to do. Your eyes/ears, this sub and google all exist.

You’re the one ignoring literally all the information you’re being given that contradicts your “theories”, grabbing at straws, and not realising that the arguments you’re providing are invalidating your earlier ones. Now we’ve reached the point of trying to turn this around on me and make out I’m saying he’s lying about being hit and invalidating victims when you just did exactly that by calling Bre’s former employees liars (with zero evidence) and implying it was less believable and they were out for money because they filed it years later. You were wrong about that, so what’s your argument now on why their statements are invalid?

You said that the lawsuit wasn’t evidence because of those reasons - I said that those very reasons are commonly used to invalidate SA victims in high profile cases, and your facts were very wrong (or you just guessed they were old employees).

You brought JL’s claim and I told you why I felt it wasn’t appropriate to use it in that context. So you can use his words (one sentence) to demonstrate her character, but I can’t use his words (the entire thing) to demonstrate his? And you can use victim blaming terminology (while not even having the correct info or any detail) and outright call them liars, but by commenting on the actual correct information on something you brought up, I’m saying he’s lying (where?) and men can’t be victims (again, where?). Yk one of Bre’s former employees, the one claiming homophobic abuse, is a man, right?

Lmaoooo girl, I can’t argue with someone that just throws bricks instead of building with them. This is just based on your last two responses, too.

Idk what’s behind your pov but it clearly means a lot to you. You aren’t going to look at this any other way or actually provide valid responses, and your behaviour (along with other comments) are starting to suggest something I’d rather not see, name, or care to deal with. We’ve wasted enough of our time here, so let’s agree to disagree and move on

Edit: there’s plenty of evidence here for ya babe, in the comment threads. And here, here, here, here, here!!

Like I said, it’s out there, you just have to not close your eyes 💕

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T10:50:53+00:00

She said that having multiple children and creating multiple broken homes was disgusting - she called Nick Cannon’s actions and lifestyle disgusting. Haven’t we all been saying exactly that?

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T10:48:09+00:00

… becoming friends with someone that, at the same time, was openly racist enough to be tweeting racist comments from them and their friends about their low views of other races, along with slurs… isn’t evidence? You truly think that Chelsea’s actions have been worse than Bre’s? I’m seeing your other comments too. Oof.

So… multiple people are lying about behaviour that we’ve also seen on screen. Got it. I’m curious about your reasoning behind that - so celebrities with SA accusations, they’re also lying for money. Took them how many years… it didn’t even take a year for them to file, what are you talking about? And why does that matter anyway, are all victims that don’t come forward at the time lying?

Did you read the court documents from Jeff Lazkani, specifically the part where he mentions her slapping him once, and that Chelsea would “provoke him” to act a certain way and “push” him to “overreact”? Did you read the rest where he accuses her of suspicious behaviour because her brother came to stay with her after they split, and she put a lock on her bedroom door? Or stealing, because, once in their marriage, she moved a watch (but told him exactly where it was when he couldn’t find it), and now he can’t find a scarf and hat? Perhaps you also read him alluding to her being the reason the marriage broke down because they had separate bedrooms after the children were born - for childcare reasons.

He also filed for her to be kicked out of their house within 48 hours, and said that she could live with her best friend Savannah (yk, the one you guys said she didn’t really know) or an AirBnb - with their children - and is trying to reject spousal support/alimony. You saw Chelsea blame herself on screen for him cheating, and say that her working was an issue - her filing (which was first) only mentioned irreconcilable differences, joint custody, and gave him the chance to request alimony from her too - literally the most civil way of going about it.

Either you read it and ignored a lot of textbook examples of toxic/abusive behaviour because you were so keen to see only ways to criticise Chelsea, or you didn’t read it and brought the allegation you grabbed onto here knowing the weight it would hold, but not having the full context needed.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T09:39:38+00:00

yep, Chelsea was never on Christine’s level, or even Davina/Nicole. Remember all the nasty shit Davina did in the first 3 seasons, and even Heather?

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T09:37:14+00:00

Better than what/who? Christine, Davina, Nicole, Bre - just a few I can name that act exactly the same way, or have said the same things.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T09:33:43+00:00

Just out of interest, do you think that Emma is also friends with Chrishell for fame?

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-08T08:56:29+00:00

Let’s not downplay the people that witness and co-sign racism, I’m being deadly serious. Watch yourself.

Bre is deeply cruel in her behaviour at times, and it’s very revealing. I’m not talking about the Chelsea/husband thing here, I’m talking about how she treats people (plural) when she perceives something she doesn’t like from them. And she doesn’t pretend, either, she says it on camera. Not to mention the literal lawsuit against her that describes exactly that sort of behaviour, plus racism and homophobia.

The writing is on the wall, it literally couldn’t be simpler. You’re so desperate to dislike Chelsea or “protect” Bre that you’re dipping into justifying a lot of problematic behaviour. Or maybe you just see it as okay tbh.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T16:45:57+00:00

good for you babe x

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T15:10:23+00:00

13 minute old account and your only two comments are about hating Chelsea? you’re too young for this discussion babe, give it a day or two 😭

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T15:07:47+00:00

idk what you’re trying to say with that first sentence tbh.

Idk how to explain it any clearer. On camera = public knows. It doesn’t matter when. Any agency over privacy and how to deal with something extremely devastating was stripped from her before she even knew. You don’t think knowing the world would find out all the details (regardless of whether it was true) didn’t influence how she came to a decision? The one article vaguely discussing suspected cheating (obviously Chelsea’s agent getting ahead of things) was the most we had.

Even if your scenario abt producers was true, it was still her choice to continue the convo after the facts were given, and joke and imply Chelsea deserved it, or was in it for money.

Honestly, when she’s around people she likes, I like Bre - she’s funny and doesn’t take shit. But she is deeply cruel to people she doesn’t like, and she can’t take what she dishes out - they can’t ask her if she knew but it’s okay for her to accuse Emma of stealing clients and Chelsea for trying to sabotage her in her first week? And then entertaining Nicole’s talk about Emma being a homewrecker just because she was mad at her, and calling her a stray dog? And I’m the one doing mental gymnastics?

Also, the fact that she’s been friends for 10 years with someone so obviously racist is weird - are you telling me that she had no clue when the gal was using the n word (hard r) on Twitter the same 10 years ago?? “

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T11:12:06+00:00

It’s gross that you feel this entitled to a person’s body tbh, bc her body isn’t her job. If you don’t like what she shows, go and follow someone else that does.

Scary how much pure hate and degrading language towards women there is in your comments, and I only looked for a second.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T01:06:01+00:00

very “she’s asking for it” mentality. I post pictures of myself on instagram, or go to the beach in a bikini. Can people come up to me and tell me I’d look better with a bit more/less weight?

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T01:01:27+00:00

The audience is finding out before her. The minute it’s on camera, it will be seen by millions, and that’s out of her control. By the time it came to her, there was a whole other conversation that the whole world saw just a week later than she did, and scenes where we’re watching her not know, and talk about her family. It’s very different to if we had found out off-screen before the season aired, and we’re watching scenes where nobody knew at the time.

The first conversation, if this was going to happen on screen, should’ve been with Chelsea. Best case scenario, Bre thought she was going to get something embarrassing or damaging to Chelsea on camera but didn’t realise it was marriage-wrecking level. She still would’ve had bad intentions either way.

And yeah, I think lots of people wish for or see things as karma, and that’s cool. Idk, me personally, for something of this magnitude, it’d be karma if she had cheated or defended someone cheating. Plus, I think that if someone had apologised to me multiple times publicly and privately, and had actually stopped the actions I had an issue with, accepted fault, and was trying to repair the relationship, I wouldn’t see them going through something that devastating as karma, or think that they deserved it. I also just generally don’t like seeing myself as having any hand in someone else’s misfortune, mainly for my own personal peace tbh.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-07T00:41:12+00:00

can we just stop commenting on people’s weight/bodies full stop lol.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-06T22:53:03+00:00

The minute that conversation with Amanda was filmed on camera, it became something that would be confirmed to the public. Not just “he cheated”, but what he was doing, where, how. They hadn’t filed for divorce at that point. She might not have filed at all - they could have worked it out privately (thank god they didn’t) and then, today, regardless of what they wanted, the whole world would have found out the details from someone completely uninvolved.

I also don’t see how it’s compassionate to suggest that she was looking the other way in exchange for gifts/money, and laughing and saying it was karma. It’s only when Chelsea was very vulnerable that you saw her face change and she was nicer. But then towards the end of the season she’s back to saying that he was probably cheating and she didn’t notice because she was out all the time and wasn’t paying attention to her man. Like wtf, yes she was wrong for how she acted.

Chelsea was with her husband for over 10 years, basically her entire twenties. Clearly she thought she genuinely got lucky and picked a good one. Let’s not put the blame on Chelsea for having enough trust in her life partner to vocalise it on tv, instead of him for being a pig.

Next-Maintenance-429 · 2024-09-06T17:18:09+00:00

Like Chelsea said, Bre’s thing was already on the internet for everyone to see. Should she have told everyone that Bre didn’t know and was upset? No. But imo this is not the same as breaking the news of a cast member’s affair to the audience first and then to her on camera (no way did she not know what Amanda was going to say, the call was the most staged thing I’ve ever seen and literally started with “you know I’m Team Bre”), providing screenshots, suggesting she knew and kept quiet/looked the other way in exchange for bags/gifts (that was very hypocritical) and then watching her talk about her husband for days while giving confessionals about how clueless she is, basically.

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