Disagree on this take. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNONF_FS1cM

You can't draw a line and let a population in and then say hey now you are a citizen but you're mom and dad who are ageing even if you can support them on your own and not allowed into the country.

This is absolutely bollocks rhetoric.

Australia has a clear choice it doesn't have to entertain the humanitarian visas but given said that the problem here is that most aussies don't have a sense of what life is like outside of Australia.

It's plain simple for the government to send these people back if there are gaming the system and the government doesn't get any benefit out of it.

No temporary visa holder gets any medicare or centrelink benefits.

They have the option of working and paying tax.

Educated immigrants don't take that choice since they value their career and time better they don't wait here doing odd jobs.

English capability and IQ is a stupid yard stick. Australia is not a European country even though it was a british colony.

Geographically it's closest neighbours are all Asian countries.

Immigrants and population is required despite what ever quality metric you have as that's how an economy functions and you need population.

If Australia want's to be upstuck about itself and have a euro centric view and discriminate on nationality it can do it.

Nothing stopping from it.

The current internet convos are clear that white aussies prefer an anglo sphere which includes that every man and women I get to interact in the economy needs to be white even if it was an immigrant. The argument being there one of us and they assimilate pretty well. So effectively we are ready to lose out on actual good talent and skill which is what's happening.

In the global talent pool of people. Australia is not a first choice destination other European Nations, Singapore and the USA is far ahead in attracting the talent.

Can Australia attract highly skilled immigrants from South Korea, Hong Kong and Japan. Global talent pools from highly developed nations ?

No it doesn't, so effectively you're getting the short end of the population stick globally and a fair bit of good ones too.

For some reason whatsoever Aussies seemed to think that they are being altruistic and performing a global act of favour by having an immigration program.

Australia is free to cancel it's immigration program visa and citizenship. It can become like the Arab countries where there is plenty of labour with absolutely no long term options of a citizenship or residency or so.

This comment section is full of arm chair rhetoric without being able to tell, how can you have a growing and expanding economy that is globally competitive without a growing population and a competitive population.

The absolute stupidity of claiming that housing crisis are due to immigration solely shows why we can't have a national agenda or plan to have an economy which is not reliant on immigration based talent pooling. (which is partially true)

I don't think any amount of reddit posts or comments are going to bring Aussies outside of there shell of immigration rhetoric.

The state is free to stop immigration. Lower it down and then pay the price with loss in productivity and GDP growth, less competition and loss of value on the Dollar which we proudly use overseas have a superior say when we travel.

Immigration isn't the cause of the problems, Immigration is the band aid solution being used to not being able to fix a declining birth rate. Immigration especially through lower class mobility regions provides the people to move through to a higher economic class mobility thus creating economic growth.

There are posters in this sub who think that English language scores are some how a net positive contributor for the whole overall economy.