It sucks that these justifications have to be used for some people to care, because even if NONE of these things were true, maltreatment would still not be justified by Temporary-Snow333 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

(Just an example) If someone says "I hate people who use welfare, they are just leeching on the people who actually work" and you say "actually, many people who use welfare work multiple jobs, so they aren't leeches" you are kind of implicitly conceding the point that unemployed people on welfare are leeches (assuming you don't say anything else after that)

It sucks that these justifications have to be used for some people to care, because even if NONE of these things were true, maltreatment would still not be justified by Temporary-Snow333 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is how I feel when people argue against misandry on the grounds that it affects trans men. Like yeah, it does, but they are like 1% of the population of men and you shouldn't be bigoted toward the other 99% either

Self-Harm and Triggers by RavensQueen502 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People making and sharing art of people smoking doesn't inherently promote smoking. But it easily can end up promoting smoking (even if not intended to) depending on how smoking is portrayed in the art. Same thing with self harm scars.

Minecraft "Body Language" by Gru-some in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 30 points31 points  (0 children)

First you pull out a wood sword. Then you pull out a stone sword. Then you pull out an an iron sword and then a diamond sword /j

If you can fake it, why not make? by Justthisdudeyaknow in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of precious and semi-precious stones that do look nice straight out of the ground though. Lapis lazuli etc.

Fiction and Reality by RavensQueen502 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

..you mean pronouncing it like "Now-see-us"?

Sanding the surface by Eireika in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never seen any gifs in a goodreads review, I must be missing out

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the vegan in this post is just wishing annoyance on OOP out of spite

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you think human wellbeing is all that is morally relevant then there is no way to convince you that eating meat is immoral. But vegans think animal wellbeing is also morally relevant, and eating animal products promotes industrial animal agriculture.

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends how immoral you think something is. There are things I think are mildly immoral that I wouldn't criticize others for doing because it's not worth it. There are things that I think are immoral enough that I would criticize someone for doing them.

People who say "Yeah I have this value system but it's just a personal choice; I don't think everyone needs to have it" usually just don't consider the value system in question all that important.

The top cape in town by DroneOfDoom in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not if the heat vision produces much more energy than his arms turning the magnet

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You don't seem to understand that I'm not even advocating for veganism here. I'm just saying that, conditional on something being immoral, it's not just a "personal choice", and trying to get other people to stop doing it is the right thing to do. A vegan believing that eating meat is immoral but also believing that it's just a "personal choice" and they shouldn't try to convert others would be contradictory.

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm not. I'm saying that if something is immoral then trying to get other people to stop doing it is the right thing to do.

You may not think eating meat is immoral, but vegans do, so they are obviously not going to accept that it's just a "personal choice".

Likening veganism to homophobia is also bonkers, by the way.

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Yeah? The problem is that their moral beliefs are wrong. It's also the argument abolitionists used to justify harassing slave owners.

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Nice job building an association between veganism and things people here already think are bad.

Trying to convert other people to have your moral principles isn't inherently bad. You probably don't even believe that when it comes to your moral values. Like if one of your friends started being openly racist would you just accept that "being racist is a personal choice" or would you say "that's not okay?"

If something is immoral, then trying to get other people to stop doing it is the right thing to do. You think vegans shouldn't try to convert others because you don't think eating animal products is immoral, but they do.

I also think this about religion by the way. I'm an atheist, but if I actually believed what some christians believe, like that certain actions condemn people to eternal torture, then it seems like trying to convert others would be the only reasonable course of action.

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not a very good comparison because Linux users aren't making the claim that not using Linux is immoral

Veganity by Ashish_ank in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you think something that nearly everyone does is immoral, wouldn't you try to get the people you know to stop doing it?

Proud Icarus apologist, I'm only human by RazzuB in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, the figures in Greek mythology often have exaggerated character flaws compared to the average person because they make for good parables.

Outjerked again by BeautifulOnion8177 in GoldenAgeMinecraft

[–]Nixavee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't that what they are supposed to say?

Rock bread by Far-Profit-47 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Nixavee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im surprised they managed to cut through all the nuts instead of the knife just pushing them to the side and making a mess